>I also don't have a special spot in my heart for rich
>octogenarians yelling at kids, though, so that's just me.

LOL pretty much


>
>>Yall really want your politicians to pat you and the head
>and
>>say I love your passion knowing the shit they are proposing
>>will never pass?
>
>What if you explained why it was unlikely to pass as of now
>AND, instead of talking about why it was so important to
>compromise with a bunch of people who literally don't believe
>the issue you care about exists, talked about WHY they don't
>believe it exists and what needs to be done about that. I
>understand this might be *partisan* and therefore bad, and
>that it also might implicate you and your party as well. But
>what's the harm in being real?
>
>Like, what if you started from the position that this was
>something we need and gradually wittled down from there?
>Instead of starting from the position that you need to appease
>Republicans, so best to start with something that is basically
>a warmed-over GOP plan from 2003, then watch them all not vote
>for it anyway.
>
>>That's just bullshit coodling. She tried to treat them like
>>adults and have a grown up discussion with how it works and
>>they just couldn't be bothered to pay any attention to
>>anything they were saying and stuck to the "We are the
>future
>>and we are going to die!"
>>
>>It's just a disservice to kids to not be real with them.
>
>I mean, yeah, "I will capitulate to Republicans" is her being
>honest. I guess I don't see what's so honorable or BAWSE BITCH
>about that.
>
>>or let me axe you this, describe a scenario of how it could
>>have gone down in a way that you would have found acceptable
>>that is also not total bullshit?
>
>Acceptable: "Thanks, I support this because even though I'm
>going to be dead soon, it would be cool if the whole world
>didn't boil to death after I'm gone."
>
>Truly honest answer: "I am a huge part of the problem because
>I'm 80 and don't give a shit."
>
>Acceptable, honest answer: "I am a huge part of the problem
>because I'm 80 and don't give a shit, time for me to resign
>and let this seat be held by someone who doesn't suck ass.
>Your parents are probably lying to you, smoke weed everyday."

You nailed it.

And its amazing some folks don't see the issue with Dems starting at a position of compromise again and again.

And, in general, I don't think "lets tell all these dumb kids just how stupid they are" is a winning strategy for Dems. Some folks seem determined to drive people away at all costs.