https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/14/entertainment/r-kelly-investigation/index.html?adkey=bn

(CNN)Prosecutors investigating R. Kelly are looking into a newly surfaced video featuring the R&B superstar, lawyer Michael Avenatti told CNN.

CNN has seen the VHS tape that appears to show Kelly having sex with a girl who refers to her body parts as 14 years old. Avenatti, who is representing a man he calls a whistleblower against Kelly, says he handed the tape to the Cook County State's Attorney's Office in Chicago last weekend.

"My client knows the identity of the girl and R. Kelly. He identified the two of them on the videotape. He worked for and has known R. Kelly for decades and he met the girl on a number of occasions," Avenatti said.

On Thursday, Avenatti tweeted out a statement describing the tape.
Steve Greenberg, Kelly's attorney, told CNN he had not heard of the development.

"We are unaware of any new information involving Mr. Kelly," he told CNN. "We have not been contacted by anyone. We have not been informed about any new information by anyone and we have not been contacted by law enforcement."

Tandra R. Simonton, chief communications officer for the State's Attorney's Office said: "We cannot confirm or deny an investigation."

What's on the tape

The newly unearthed footage, which lasts 42 minutes and 45 seconds, is clear and explicit.

There are two scenes on the video: one apparently in a living room and another in a bedroom. A naked man who appears to be R. Kelly is seen performing multiple sex acts with the girl. She is heard calling him "daddy" multiple times.

It is impossible to know her age just from the video. They both refer to her "14-year-old p***y." Six times the girl refers to her genitalia as 14 years old.

At one point, the man asks the girl to urinate. After she does, he urinates on her.

What is on the video mirrors some of the alleged acts for which Kelly was arrested for child pornography in 2002, when he was 35, and then acquitted six years later.

That case centered on another video involving a man having sex with a girl who prosecutors said was as young as 13 years old, media reports said.

Much was made at the trial about the identity of the man on the tape and whether an identifying mole on Kelly was visible on that video.

In the new video reviewed by CNN, a small mole can be seen on the man's back just to the left of his spine.

Kelly has been associated with claims of sexual misconduct with minors and other crimes for more than two decades. He has been sued by multiple women accusing him of having sex with them when they were underage. He has denied the accusations and all cases, with the exception of the trial where he was acquitted, have been settled out of court.

And while he is one of the most successful R&B acts in history, there has been a growing movement against him.

Music industry colleagues and former fans backed a #MuteRKelly campaign to stop his music being played.

In July 2017, Buzzfeed published an explosive article outlining claims that Kelly was holding a group of adult women against their will as part of what some of their parents say was a "cult."
A group of people cited in the article claimed that their daughters, ages 18 to 31, were a part of an entourage of at least six women attached to Kelly.

Joycelyn Savage, one of the young women, denied those claims and asked her parents, via a video shared with TMZ, to stop speaking out about her relationship with Kelly.

In January 2019, the release of a docuseries called "Surviving R. Kelly" on Lifetime television helped boost the public campaign against him.

In that series women said they were kept in abusive sexual relationships.

After the series aired, Cook County State's Attorney Kim Foxx urged potential victims or witnesses to speak to police.
At the same time, Kelly's attorney, Greenberg, told CNN that his client "has done nothing wrong ... Someone with an agenda has done a hit piece," Greenberg said of the docuseries. "(Kelly's) out in public. He's not hiding. There's no secret compound with sex slaves."

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Why wouldn't he? Got caught on tape once and was allowed to skate because jurors didn't like the way the girl looked in court.

I thought it was because the teen would not participate/cooperate? There are so many potential reasons why she wouldn't, including being paid off by R. Kelly's team, but also, what young girl wants to talk to strangers in court about her sexual activity, especially with a celebrity man?

I think people forget to view these matters from the perspective of the girls and young women involved.

As part of these investigations, all kinds of adults are looking at explicit images and videos of you. And now you are being asked to go to court or police station where these people are going to be looking at you in the face. Ugh.

To exacerbate all of this, the national media is on the case. Think about it. I would be scared and embarrassed. I'd wonder about the cameras that might be in my face and my family's face when I walk out of the court and the police station. I'd wonder about my classmates and friends knowing about it.

Victims are often left hung to dry in court during these types of cases, underage or not.

Just read this article. It's horrifying shit.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/21/rape-complainant-loss-privacy-intrusive-investigations

shit's gone on way too long

to try and stay out of jail

lol

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I don't think there's ever been an issue of lack of evidence

the issue has been the NDAs, out of court settlements, lack of co-operation from the victims, etc...

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proven to the legal standard that she was a minor, or what the exact date of the tape was?

Based on the article above, that seems to be a non-issue with this tape.

Role Playing won't work in that case.

That's how he got off last time. Girl suspected of being on the tape said it wasn't her. Since the person on the tape didn't exist apparently, they couldn't charge him.

That's where the case fell apart

Along with her family denying it was her...and I think the guitar player uncle dude testified it wasn't her

i.e. w/o the victim coming forward and corroborating the claim

will a jury convict?

Is it possible he just...doesn't come back?

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Although I think he did enough to tie Stormy to 45, he overpromised.

We'll see how this turns out. Like someone mentioned, if it's a consenting adult woman, there's no story.

Which factors in to their coverage of this, I imagine.

and him stepping down from leading his firm story came out?

https://pitchfork.com/news/r-kelly-charged-with-10-counts-of-aggravated-criminal-sexual-abuse-report/

R. Kelly has been charged with 10 counts of aggravated criminal sexual abuse in Cook County, Illinois, the Chicago Sun-Times, TMZ, The Blast, and the Chicago Tribune’s Megan Crepeau report. According to the Sun-Times, Kelly is due in court on March 8. Pitchfork has contacted R. Kelly’s attorney Steve Greenberg and representatives for the Cook County State’s Attorney.

R. Kelly continues to face allegations of sexual abuse and misconduct, most recently outlined in the Lifetime series “Surviving R. Kelly.” Last week, it was reported that a videotape that allegedly shows Kelly sexually assaulting an underage girl was handed over to Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx. In January, after Lifetime aired “Surviving R. Kelly,” Kim Foxx held a press conference during which she encouraged any survivors and witnesses with information about Kelly to contact her office in order to initiate an investigation.

R. Kelly and his lawyer have continually denied the allegations.

That sounds big

with the defense attorney?
https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/1099139061095325697

and why is he posting screenshots from child porn on his timeline?
(im not posting that tweet. the minor isnt captured in the frame of any pic but its still creepy nonetheless).

i used to sorta be a fan of dude but now he just looks like a ham for the camera that has no problem putting legal efforts in jeopardy for some screen time.

Kinda seems like he got addicted to being the famous "hero"...

I'm not saying Bart doesn't get confirmed if this dude stays out of it...but I definitely think he made it worse by throwing around outlandish shit with no/little proof.

Made everything lose credibility.


In this situation, he needs to chill. And that's coming from ME. lol

its sad cuz i think we need more fighters on our side with his personality type. dems used to have em in droves. especially the clinton operation.

That he's going to die in jail.

Somebody check on Maxx.

https://localtvktvi.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/gettyimages-1131499414.jpg?quality=85&strip=all&strip=all

Dude looks like he's about to cry.

one girl from the documentary.

I kinda thought it was gonna go sideways.

Heard his lawyer said one of the incidents is the same from the previous trial

= double jeopardy

As with the first trial, the victims need to testify, or there will be doubt about acts from 10-20 years ago

The OP only has statements from 2 victims

This escalated quickly...hope the rug doesn't get pulled out...again.

and apparently someone from the tape that give police clothing with DNA, so they are cooperating.

I don't see how he avoids jailtime/conviction on this one.

and of course there is reports that his female fans are crowdsourcing to get him the cash dafuuuuu

He $160K in the hole on the child support.

So if his female fans get the $260K to pay his kids and his bail, at least something positive comes out of it.

>He $160K in the hole on the child support.
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>So if his female fans get the $260K to pay his kids and his
>bail, at least something positive comes out of it.

I always thought it was insane how he didn’t go to jail as soon as that first tape went public.

If you are black, famous and have any dirt on you they are going to let you rot as soon as you stop making the power brokers rich.

>and of course there is reports that his female fans are
>crowdsourcing to get him the cash dafuuuuu

then he goes and posts up in a McDonald's.

If they get cold gotta throw them away

Can I get a number four!!!!

See me cumming thru that open door!

I believe in the fries

I believe in the fries

Make it supersized!!!

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Will Xanu do it?

They're going down with the ship

https://twitter.com/TIA_EWING/status/1100502118392307713

Get your bingo cards out, because ALL of the excuses are there. "He's only ever been nice to me," "what about Catholic priests," "you weren't there," "he told me he didn't do it."

Just remembered that Heaven I Need a Hug included the hook where he said "shower down on me/wet me with your love." Not sure why that just came to me now, but it's probably going to be the only thing I think about the rest of the day.