First ep last night.

Why doesn’t Issa crash at her best friends spot?

the way Dro checked her about his wife? That open marriage shit is soo fuckin messy. Not even necessarily for the married couple lol


Issa was right - WPS.



I love that I can relate to a small part of each character in this show.

because it’s MY hand”

That’s how they do for real too.

then she went in the hall and was just trying to gather herself...i thought she was gonna go back in there and tell the boss to kick rocks.

but, it's issa. wamp wamp.

not so much the fight in the back seat, but she outta options and living rent free with ol dude. as slow money as that driving shit is, it's still money, lol.

Because I don't see what Daniel sees in Issa at this point. Like the initial hookups has a Road Not Take aura about them but he's seen too much now.

Reminds me of girls back home. Used to have a crush on a girl for 10 years the. Finally get a chance and realize she is..


just a girl.

maybe ever

still have a lot of love for the pov of the show and the art is on point, but i dont know if i care all that much abt the characters anymore tbh

Try always crying but the music and cinematography is top notch.

>First ep last night.
>
>Why doesn’t Issa crash at her best friends spot?

bracing for the men to kirk out at various points and get violent with the women. Especially when Molly demanded her key back from Dro. But also when big bol lit up in the Lyft.

primarily because the main character was kinda toxic.

I get that the guy's perspective will never be the focus of this show.....this is just an observation I made based off the first two seasons.
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Toxic masculinity does not necessarily mean woman beater in the same way that racist doesn't mean white sheets. I'd actually be disappointed if they did that.

for years when he was unemployed?

while he was unemployed, so he was contributing to the expenses.

maybe that's why lol

I think Molly's story is more relate-able as far as the balance of L's taken.
Molly's personal life is fucked but her professional life is decent.
Literally everything Issa does ends up being an L.

issa's character on ABM was similar to Issa on insecure.
she worked a shitty job
had dating problems
she was mad awkward
broke as fuck

Dude lightweight gaslighted Molly, talking about "well tell me what you want?"

RIGHT AFTER

Molly had bossed up and told him precisely what she wanted. Friends who don't fuck or acquaintances who do, no overnights, and gimme my key nigga.

Then calling her up to follow up on her work status and to go out for drinks. I'm watching this like damn, dude smooth ran that Molly stop sign and kept going, and she ain't do shit about it.

I hate to see where this is going for her.
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"To Each His Reach"

but.....

Fuck aliens.

wouldn’t be surprised if he has someone else’s contact as his wife’s name on his phone.

Ole girl at the gig told me women used to do that shit for their side piece. Brads name shows up as Gina... what nigga is going to ask why Gina is calling so late?

in this age of texting. eyebrows will raise if Gina's text says she wants to be deep in them guts.

“All the women we was liking in HS now they...” - BigBoi

he has a free pass to fuck who he wants without emotional attachment, but a real investment could be developing

I dont see it ending well when the wife finds out it's more than sex (or maybe Molly will skip out before getting serious with a married man), but I dont think he's manipulating Molly

Dope episode. They always do "club" episodes well. That producer stuff was real as shit.

Keli was also hilarious in her brief appearance. "Radio Shack ain't even a store anymore."

I mean not really but.. uh , yeah lol

"That guy made them."

I left out the part about how I "know" the homie.

Almost more than folks I actually know in person, at this point

If he doesn't come back for another cameo, I'm assuming the shots got him.

Came in to say the same shit. That was dope.

Behind the girl that was playing the flute.

Not much screen time, but you could tell it was him.

That producer shit was tough to watch

very prominent placement!

just to get six seconds, but that is actually a long time for what it was! Everything about the shooting was fascinating to me.

Between revealing how completely tone-deaf that whole office is and the property management offer, WGY's days on this show have to be numbered. If so, shout out to the actress playing her boss for absolutely crushing the liberal white boomer who absolutely refuses to believe she could be on the wrong side of anything because her intentions are pure.

"But it's MY hand!"

>Between revealing how completely tone-deaf that whole office
>is and the property management offer, WGY's days on this show
>have to be numbered. If so, shout out to the actress playing
>her boss for absolutely crushing the liberal white boomer who
>absolutely refuses to believe she could be on the wrong side
>of anything because her intentions are pure.
>
>"But it's MY hand!"


I hope more shows start to reveal how liberals can be prejudiced/biased/racist. It's not just extremists like the Klan who be hurting Black and other ethnic groups.

Perfect touch for that character/situation.

getting tired of her high school antics love life?

Either she is too old, or maybe its me.

I've been on both sides of the Daniel/Issa coin and I find it eerily accurate

but i can relate... just not sure how long this format can last.

and he was acting like a nervous teenage girl I see why he's 30 and still trying to make it in the music business

rappers are funny as shit when it comes to producers.

Once he got the co-sign tho he definitely flubbed that shut.

Just say you want to make some hit shit for him or you got some crazy shit that would be perfect for him.

She's going through her dark-ish, rudderless period like he did.

A little gaudy, but overall something I would wear on a random night out. I know it caught a lot of flack in the Twitterverse, but I dug it.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Not a huuuuge fan of the 3rd bunny on the back, but I'd make that joint work! Daniel rocked it nice IMO. Some jeans on the real casual tip.

Guys we don't need a whole episode about the building chemistry of Daniel and Issa.

see in Issa?

Their genuine friendship, and seeing that she actually cares about his music and career is a huge thing that showed in this episode.

literally aint ever seen u NOT hate on some shit

than actually offer any meaningful insight

Kinda strange to get upset over the building of a relationship that was about to go south.

Her constant cursing and crazy "rap" montages are kinda annoying
The whole "woke but hood" presentation is grating

The new version of the beat still had your damn strings. Has he ever produced a beat that someone's used on a real song, or is he basically a Soundcloud producer? Because if it's the latter, this was a stupid hill to die on.

When Issa questioned him on it, along with letting him know she's starting to get her shit together and will be moving out soon, he dropped that "when have you ever done anything?". "I always gotta save you" to try to get the upper hand back.

but he was spitting facts

issa aint in a place to give nobody advice about nothing

she homeless
job situation is trash
love life cray

that nigga got too much damn pride

Daniel has come off for two seasons as this fairly confident dude who has his shit together. now we're getting a closer look at him. Dude looked like a desperate little boy last episode through the whole Fais Do Do / Spider thing, and in a role reversal Issa had to rescue him.

He doesn't like being in this position, or feeling like Issa is looking through him, so when she tried to drop advice, he immediately went for the jugular to remind her her life is dogshit, as to remind her of her place

He was also feeling salty because she said she's moving out. Thing is, I think they both pretty much like the Daniel as the savior dynamic, so the more that crumbles, the more they're doomed


>but he was spitting facts
>
>issa aint in a place to give nobody advice about nothing
>
>she homeless
>job situation is trash
>love life cray

because they are stubborn and refuse to play the game.

even musically fire enough to feel that way.

>because they are stubborn and refuse to play the game.
>


Right the whole time I'm thinking just play along and do what you need to do to get on THEN do shit the way you want.

In a way there are a lot of similarities between his situation and Lawrence's

CON

FIT

The line she slipped in before that was hilarious.

in my life and I need you right now?"

Issa said something like that to old boy in episode 2 and I cringed. You saying if your shit was together you wouldn't be around?


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

is cause it’s close to your job.

it like...."

also I was cringing when she would roll up and make the blackity black jokes in a meeting when everyone else was being formal. Seems common sense would tell you to wait for other folks to be so casual before you try to go there.

I like the theme of working at the black office versus the white office, I did find that there was a visual disconnect between how freaking nice the black office versus how they were describing the jankiness of how things worked in the office. You got that pretty ass office but you ain't go no scanners for signing documents?

I am petty but I always trip watching tv shows with office settings and it is clear that no one writing the show has ever worked in an office.




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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

She had no chill with that "At my old agency..." stuff. SMH

Usually with people who leave almost as soon as they started.

I'm not a lawyer, so I would think someone at that level wouldn't do that, but it happens.

Lyft bae is back lol

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I was irrationally upset that they didn’t throw away the taco she dropped. I mean, the trash can was right there! I HATE litter, lol

food aint litter

She shoulda picked that shit up.

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I have a Spotify of both shows and Insecure is superior. Also more upbeat and younger

Kelli bodies everything whenever she's on the screen.

"see that's what i can't stand about LA"
"LA ain't got real bbq, etc..."
"This is the hood? it's got palm trees" (lives in burbank)

you got people who have been out here 10+ years who never shut up about how LA ain't shit lol

Nothing worse than a transplant complaining about the city they chose.

EVERYTHING in their city is better than anywhere else on the planet and are quick to get offended when an outsider suggests otherwise lol

pretty much summed up the transplant experience

not that she's wrong but she's always finding ways to gently tell Molly to get the fuck over herself

Then again, if her therapist has any white women I’m sure she has heard for worse.

But as a Black woman I can see her being like “this woman is so petty and messy”

She probably doesn't have any white clients. Then again, i could see someone like Frieda going to her lol.

>But as a Black woman I can see her being like “this woman is
>so petty and messy”

"Who's Dro??" LOL

to get the fuck over themselves.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

major things going on in your life? How long was she messing around with Dro? Seems like that was way too important to never bring up.

may be ready to talk about some things but not others. may trust therapist to hear and help them through certain issues, but not others.

i'm thinking a lot of people are doing therapy wrong

that's the best part of therapy

gaining clarity & honesty

Like yeah if you early 20s I might see you sneaking into someone's pool like that, but you 30+!?!?

I know it's not that type of show but that whole scene had me on edge because I was like, oh someone about to get shot.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

>Like yeah if you early 20s I might see you sneaking into
>someone's pool like that, but you 30+!?!?
>
>I know it's not that type of show but that whole scene had me
>on edge because I was like, oh someone about to get shot.


WE are "><"...I was like this ain't gonna go well

I think if you have a pool you almost have to have a skinny dip policy.

Twice a year you should expect to see someone you don’t know in your pool.

Given that she seems to have zero financial support or life guidance from her supposedly accomplished parents (assuming they're both still alive).

I was pretty surprised that it was legit her childhood home.

It occurred to me during that ep that we don't know anything about her parents.

I get no support...chick ain't young.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

And I assume she ended up with her mom who wasn’t as financially blessed?

I barely even realized her brother was her brother.

It's like she purposely keeps her family out of the show (maybe it's too close to home personally). But they haven't given Issa any sort of homegrown depth.

Which is a bit strange considering we got all Molly's family's tea.

I guess this is the season we learn a lil more about Issa. Her and her brother need a 'come to Jesus' moment though because they are really not good to each other.

i've had dates well into my my 30s where we walked past an empty playground and were like, fuck it lets go slide down the slide and swing on the swings!

sometimes when you're older, its fun and exciting to do some random young shit...

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that cheapens the surprise

Thought we had seen the last of him, but I guess he IS one of the most popular, relatable and just plain interesting people not just on this show, but maybe any show on TV.

I am referring to Issa's ex-neighbor, of bourse. Best returning bharacter, hands down.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

“Take me to the Brenshaw Mall...” I marked out when he said that.

Damn near everything she says is funny

dead. I think the Mrs peed herself on that one.

Too close to home maybe?!

I always worry that they’re going to use her as a crutch, but everything she did in this ep was perfect.

first time they show any consequences for all the unprotected sex they have. And when his boy clowned him about it at the baby shower
lmao

gonna go raw with some dude at a festival like that?

Are STDs a thing of the past now? Or is it just cool that everyone knows they'll get one so fuck the rubbers?

I've been in a relationship too long haha

bulletproof.

YOung folk are reckless, might as well show them being reckless.

My wife and I were like if they show them doing Molly and not the suicide tuesdays THAT would be reckless filmmaking. They kind of did go there to show what happens when the high is followed with the lows.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

What would that even be like?

i think Lyft Bae bounced on Issa.

I will be highly upset if lawrence and issa get back together. i like the idea of them moving on.

Prolly got warrants.

nigga prob got scared that he caught feelings so fast.
i can't see it being anything else.
he opened up first and put his feelings out there, then got scared.

She said something dumb like: "Oh! I didn't think we was talking about shit like that."

Or something very similar. Why would he not be scared if that was her first reaction? She did that before saying that she felt the same which, to him, could have come off as her saying it just because he said it; not necessarily that she meant it.

LMAO

>i think Lyft Bae bounced on Issa.
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>I will be highly upset if lawrence and issa get back together.
>i like the idea of them moving on.
>
>

agreed

when ole girl said dude ls wife was pregnant


Reminds me of a woman I knew who said her married side piece wasn’t sleeping in the same room with his wife.

lol Yella getting sucked in by that sermon

everytime I saw him on Insecure I was like 'damn, i've seen this nigga somewhere"...
shit, he was Yella. LOL.

is back. I know the finale is next week, but I wouldn't mind seeing more of his stuff with the church girl.

Nathan's gone for good, though, right?

Their story is dope..

Not sure why folks lied about not missing him. Is it because the show is written by a woman so they don’t want to NEED a man? lol

Not a serious question but I wonder...

I wasn't sure what they could even do with him after Issa. It's her show, and if they're really done with each other, there's no reason he needs to be on the show. Also, I'm just not interested in seeing him and Issa get back together and break up and get back together for the whole series.

But if they use him to explore the things they can't with other characters? That's good.

Also, didn't realize how much I liked his friend as a character.

we all love Lawrence and Issa


But we can also relate to the pain of trying to move on.



I took Lawrence's diminished role in the new season as a sign of Issa's growth and moving on. Maybe I'm trying to live vicariously through these fictional characters too much lol

and I'm frightened for myself, lol

>we all love Lawrence and Issa
>
>
>But we can also relate to the pain of trying to move on.
>
>
>
>I took Lawrence's diminished role in the new season as a sign
>of Issa's growth and moving on. Maybe I'm trying to live
>vicariously through these fictional characters too much lol
>
>

Seems like both of them are still stumbling out here

I still have to watch this last episode so maybe something new happened to change my mind.

the Lift people called Issa and said they were done with the investigation about the fight in her car. homeboy ain't been seen since. ain't his moms in Texas?



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character next season as Issa and Lawrence get tighter.

I can't remember the commentor said thanks for the cut 'today'

Just had to throw that in there.

I can’t do the churchy church girls tho even tho they be mad freaky

>Just had to throw that in there.

Ericka Dickerson fo sho.

for chasing Nanceford off like that?

I know it's not really her place but it ultimately gave Issa some time to process him coming back

Like, I like that she's on her girl's side, but that was really Issa's call to make, not Molly's.
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"To Each His Reach"

but.....

Fuck aliens.

At the very least, she should've told Issa after doing it, or even after getting to the cemetery.

could've given her the bday she wanted and apologetically told her after...i think that would've gone smoother than "you're welcome"

and if she told Issa about Nathan she woulda left her ass at the cemetery.

underwhelming season finale

seems aimless now

I still love seeing us on screen but its getting into Hype Williams 'Belly' territory where it looks really good but the content is thin

Issa cheated on Lawrence because she was bored and immature
Issa then stopped herself from fucking Daniel again, met a new guy, got her feelings hurt and communicated it without allowing the cycle to continue

I don't see how it's aimless, though I can see how it didn't quite feel like a finale. But it sets up some obvious threads for next season, her throwing her block party with the help/friendship of Lawrence's possibly serious girlfriend? When will she find out? Is Molly going to boss out at her job or start trying to be likable? Is she giving Asian dude a chance? And where will Nathan fit in all of it. I thought he conveyed the emotions in that final scene quite well and am interested in where they go with him if they do.

You're either invested in the characters and want to see what they're doing or you're not.

go through what they go through

It's entertaining and leaves you wanting more with only 4 hours a season.

If this were an hour long 12 episode show, it might get tedious.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

The way she was dealing with Asian dude had me screaming every episode "THAT's why you SINGLE!!!"

I am thinking Issa going to get real of Lawrence for real after the backlash to her teasing that he won't be back. She was a bit salty with the bring back lawrence campaigns on twitter.

https://twitter.com/IssaRae/status/1023936895204696064


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

That shit was hilarious

Issa isn’t dumb. She knows Lawrence makes the show better. The story line with him dating her mentor is corny tho

cities is mad small and interconnected. Plus, as much poon as Lawrence has been running through, it makes sense that sooner or later he'd have a run-in with someone Issa knows.

It makes sense to me.

Rae consider any of the men's actions this season to be indicative of toxic masculinity? Because I didn't see any.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

it doesn't seem like it was.

Here's one: Lawrence tells his dad he wants a woman with no baggage even though he..

JUST GOT FINISHED CALLING ALL THE CHICKS HE FUCKED TO TELL THEM HE HAD AN STD.

but you right. no toxic masculinity to be found :)

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hypocrisy - neither gender has a monopoly on hypocrisy

I guess the dude who made beats could be viewed that way when he was smashing chicks...

It was his crib tho

and she wasn’t paying rent

text telling her he went back home for a little bit because he had to sort that out.

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after ignoring someone completely for a month. he could have at the very least told her he's going through some shit and needs some time.

but one of the things about depression is folks running or hiding when they are in a funk

I get her anger but wonder if this is going to be addressed next season.

his unreasonable expectations of resetting, and her describing his depression as "a bad mood"

like double dippin in da crew on some triflin shit


cuz after coachella she was all like "who you talkin bout da asian on or black one? cuz im fuckin da black one" and issa was all "pssh bitch please you is NOT fuckin my man"

then he ghosted her

then he reappeared RIGHT AFTER kelly told issa and nem at da festival she kicked da black dude to da curb cuz he wouldnt eat pussy

i thought fa SHO she was finna throw some grimy plot twist in there

who knows