>
>>>
>>
>>I disagree, it sounds like you are selling the artist short.
>
>
>How so? I've watched producers and songwriters say they are
>therapists.... In the language of creativity there is A LOT of
>translating and use of flowery and sometimes confusing
>language to do so. Thats just the way it is
>

You sell the artist short when you say they have to be "delusional" to believe what they make is "worthy" of mass consumption. It suggests how dare they believe they are good. Artist who speak bs to express an idea are not delusional, they are just talented and can't communicate. Producers who translate bs are not therapist, they are just bs detectors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgoB2JMEowc Artist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEDzNA39Vvc&feature=youtu.be&t=17s

Smitty Producer

>>>I stated that I translate Ye as he is talking..
>>>
>>>as a producer that is LITERALLY MY JOB...
>>>
>>
>>"Translate" come on it sounds like you are making up an
>excuse
>>to give him a pass when he says something stupid.
>>
>>>Someone walks in a has a feeling or a kernel of an idea
>they
>>>want to get out. They want something to "feel warm" they
>>want
>>>a single sound to "be luxurious" or a 2d image to "have
>>>texture".
>>>
>>
>>So he is always on ? He is never anything more than an
>artist
>>in the booth 24/7, no matter what he is doing. If he orders
>>food, watch the news, go to sleep, it's all the same as
>>walking in.
>
>Yes.
>
>All input is necessary for art...
>
>There is a spectrum of artist(s). On one extreme you have
>people who are PURE ART (that homeless person who sings like
>an angel) and on the other is the "BUSINESS MAAAAANN" (someone
>not as talented but can hack through the game)
>

Kanye doesn't sound like he is anywhere near the pure art end.

>All artists fall on this spectrum somewhere... most battle
>somewhere in the middle.. But our favorites often bend a
>little towards PURE ART.
>

Kanye is not in the middle either.

>How many posts in these forums are on some "When is so and so
>gonna drop an album again, Why doesnt so and so stick to the
>shit I like from them" We WANT them to be more "Business
>MAAAAANNN" but no they are not.
>

No I don't believe saying when will they drop a new album or why don't they stick to what we like, means we want them to be more business. It just means we don't want them to take chances and experiment or take too long to put something else out. If we wanted more business man we would buy any and everything they do.

>>Would this extend to artist who disagree with what you just
>>typed ? If another artist or producer told you that Ye
>>interview was not dope or clear headed, would you say they
>>don't understand ?
>
>No.. because I know that there are probably trigger words and
>or shit that Ye has already done that will color their view of
>the video same as anyone else.
>
>

Sounds like your view is from a rose colored glasses perspective. If someone says this interview was not dope, you say they are not an artist, if they are an artist and say this interview is not clear headed you say Kanye has already made them bias against him. Sounds like everybody is wrong except you and Kanye when it comes to calling this interview dope and clear headed.

>>
>>Nobody has to save the world to be honest. If Ye was clear
>>headed he wouldn't need you to translate or Charlamagne to
>>help him answer.
>>
>
>I didnt see him helping but here is what he learned
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ng7XrIFaqk
>

Yeah he was helping him all through the interview and Levin helped in the TMZ interview.

Charlamagne learned something that's been obvious for years.