>con·serv·a·tive
>kənˈsərvədiv
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>adjective
>1.
>holding to traditional attitudes and values and cautious about
>change or innovation, typically in relation to politics or
>religion.
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>noun
>1.
>a person who is averse to change and holds to traditional
>values and attitudes, typically in relation to politics.
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>So when you say this...
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>>Am I crazy but there is a big sense that the only way to be
>>down with conservatism as a person of color/black man is be
>>down with white supremacy or have white supremacy do some
>>shaping of your world view
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>... that makes complete sense, because white supremacy shapes
>America's "traditional attitudes and values" and that's what a
>conservative is "conserving"... no matter what they look
>like.



^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ exactly this. "Traditional attitudes and values" = racist attitudes and values. America was born racist, and remains so. If you claim conservative, you are claiming racism. Agree with all you said below as well.



>>I been hearing these black conservatives talking about the
>>"democratic plantation" but nothing they say seems to be of
>>any value to black people. They look at black america
>through
>>the lens of white disgust and hatred....I can't get past 20
>>seconds of these negors talking
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>I look at that "democratic plantation" as the same old white
>supremacist tactic of flipping everything around. You say
>they're racist, they say you're racist. You say they're
>killing us, they scream "white genocide." They want to harm
>you, they accuse you of trying to harm them (i.e. stop
>resisting!). They want to bring back the plantation, they
>accuse you of wanting to bring it back.
>This is good for confusing simple minds who won't study and
>analyze history and present data.
>
>As for looking at Black America through the lens of white
>disgust and hatred, there's no other way for a *conservative*
>to look at Black America.