came for joy ann reid and promptly got returned to sender.

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dude is an L-seeking missile at this point.

I still like his music, but recently he's had SUCH a number of things backfire

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https://media.giphy.com/media/wOXQvz3FwajVm/giphy.webp

An honest mistake, amplified by being super wrong and doing it publicly.

I'm sure someone opposed to people of color said "SMH niggas" too.

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simply asking.

as i think it is to most people who arent in that world.

but its not just the fact he misinterpreted it. its the fact that dude was bitterly waiting in the bushes to snipe her after the whole nra fiasco and thought he had his moment lol.

>but its not just the fact he misinterpreted it. its the fact
>that dude was bitterly waiting in the bushes to snipe her
>after the whole nra fiasco and thought he had his moment lol.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Its interesting how his first ‘clapback’ out of all the people clowning him was was a black woman tho...

...who apparently asked him to her show when this shit blew up two weeks ago and turned it down but now is apparently rushing to go after he E. Coyote’d himself.

I love Mike, but he’s not built for the public intellectual life. Just rap and stay a behind the scenes activist. She downloaded (c) the fuck outta him

but ima chill on this beautiful sabbath.

and thought they'd sic mike on her and he fucking fell into the trap.

that's just my feeling, and maybe he follows her ig and reads her captions like that or maybe not

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I didn't see him on her show; I wonder if he was already on her like that.

"Ay Mike, look what ol' girl posted. She tried to roast you, but she fux with H&M. I'll just leave this here"

nxgga stepped on them branches and fell into the pit.

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of sounding sexist. That was some 'girl shit'. how'd it even get on your radar.

but whatever...lemme go mind my business somewhere. LOL

that was definitely sexist AF. just stop.

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which tbh is why I can't figure out how mike would've keyed on it in the first place.

it seems weird that he'd be reading the caption in the first place, it's a random selfie with joy and two women he's never heard of.

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>...who apparently asked him to her show when this shit blew up
>two weeks ago and turned it down but now is apparently rushing
>to go after he E. Coyote’d himself.


oooooh shit...that makes this 10x worse LOL

also, even if she had been....so what?

that shit would've meant nothing compared to the fucking ridiculousness he pulled w/ the nra.




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wouldn't wear it. Thanks for informing me of that. I dont even go in those stores because I assume they don't have anything in my size. KM is twice my size, so I know he's never set foot inside one of those stores either.

If he had any clue she meant hair and makeup none of this would have happened.

this wouldn't have happened.

his whole comment was off.

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>wouldn't wear it. Thanks for informing me of that. I dont
>even go in those stores because I assume they don't have
>anything in my size. KM is twice my size, so I know he's never
>set foot inside one of those stores either.
>
>If he had any clue she meant hair and makeup none of this
>would have happened.

Like there’s another part of the exchange thats not making the rounds where joy added a (paraphrased) “We trying to start beefs on instagram my dude, aint that for twitter?”

How you gonna be a 40 year old rapper chasing after a grown ass woman trying to put her on the summerjam screen, off some shit from two weeks ago that EVERYONE got at you for. Even if she was rocking H&M the whole maneuver was pretty sad.

I actually agree with that, more or less.

If this was a stand alone incident and he called Joy out for working with H&M on some “we gotta stay unified!” line then, cool. Hell even after two weeks ago if he made it its own stand alone critique than it wouldn’t have come off so badly as opposed to him STILL mentioning the NRA shit during said critique after everyone moved on.

Everyone was clowning him that day including multiple celebs: attacking an esteemed black woman journo on da ‘gram was gonna be a shitty look even if he was ‘right’. Can’t stoop down to TMZ tactics just cause you’re still in ya feels. He literally pulled an argument a kid would have...”Yo, when I did that last week I got grounded, but now Jerome did it and y’all dont punish him. YOU GUYS ARE UNFAIR!!” lol. Its just not how an adult should move.

a public back and forth with women. It's best to avoid it unless the women is overtly reprehensible, like Tomi Lauren or Sara Huckabee or something.

This is the the kind of thing Dame Dash would suggest not doing for exactly that reason.

burn in response to him being embarassed from a few weeks ago.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

would be casually talking about hair and makeup. There would have been nothing for Mike to get tripped up on.

* - straight man

but imma let you cook and believe that no straight men are into hair and makeup

you really need to get out more LOL

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I must be the only one here who would have thought that was just the store.

Cant be in ya feels about something weeks ago. And the counter argument is such a sad one if he was right, “We all hypocrites!””. With all ya black empowerment talk thats the message ya wanna put on the gram for the youth my guy?

He wouldda still been wrong even if he was ‘right’.

u r stuck on the man vs woman thing


that nigga woulda been wrong if he was talkin about squirrels

Or the idea that he was wrong to go after a woman. I responded to that.

>Or the idea that he was wrong to go after a woman. I
>responded to that.

Mind you I aint say it was wrong to go after a woman per say, but that when you had other rappers criticising you its an esteemed Black woman journo you tried to get ya revenge on. Not a good look, since it looks like you’re afraid to go after closer and more ready to scrap targets, along with feeding the ‘Black woman gotta carry everyone on they back to the finish line in addition to loud but wrong dudes” memes

The problem is that he was so self-important and unwilling to question his own assumptions and gut reactions that he just went ahead and attacked another person's motives in public and made a fool of himself when a simple google search would have set him straight.

This kind of self-defeating certainty infects much of the thought in the self-appointed "left."

Because what you just typed is silly. Hes supposed to Google h&m, even though he had no reason to guess it might mean something other than the store. Whut?

But its cool, I get it. He's on the wrong side of an important issue, so he forfeits fairness or logic being applied to his statements and actions, until he repents, or something.

lets say on the boards.

and felt that one of the people who was critiquing you was being a hypocrite, would you attack them on instagram based off one of their posts? lol

But I generally try not to get personal with women publically for just this reason. Its typically unseemly, so I'd probably not do it.

try and figure out whether you know what you're talking about.

Otherwise you look like a fool.

That's all we're saying.

retail clothing chain name! And the picture suggested she was referring to her outfit.

It was an unknown-unknown, which you 100% will never question, by definition.

Especially to people in her (and his!) line of work.

And again, HE's the one who chose to turn it into an attack on her progressive credentials. It's incumbent upon him to think before he speaks.

Nobody's saying he carried out some kind of atrocity. Most of us just think it's kinda funny. All he did was say something dumb, like we all do. I hope he can be adult enough to admit it.

He's a morbidly obese 40-something year old left of center rapper. He knows very little about hair and make-up.

Logic is about self criticism and self skepticism.

Of course he honestly mistook H&M for the store chain. Of course we probably all did. But a more logical response, that still would have made his point if he'd had a point to make, would be "Do you mean this H&M? <<link>>"

that to mean hair and make-up.

When you're 99% sure of something that seems very basic and clear cut (rightly or wrongly) no one stops to politely ask. You only do that if you really are unsure, or somehow afraid of giving offense.

Again, I agree he shouldn't have said anything. But only because you shouldnt get into public spats with women, not because her initial post was somehow obvious - it wasnt.

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Neck of Joy Reid. People love her.

When I say the IG pic I was confused as because I didn't know why she would big up H&M and the clothes didn't look necessary like H&M.

If I were confused or thrown by something I would either wait and see if I were missing something or frame the darts as a question "Are you wearing H&M after they put that boy in monkey shirt?"

He didn't do any of that, he came guns a blazing and was dead ass wrong. He deserves to get clowned for that.

He just not ready for that sort of spotlight.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Neck of Joy Reid. People love her.

When I say the IG pic I was confused as because I didn't know why she would big up H&M and the clothes didn't look necessary like H&M.

If I were confused or thrown by something I would either wait and see if I were missing something or frame the darts as a question "Are you wearing H&M after they put that boy in monkey shirt?"

He didn't do any of that, he came guns a blazing and was dead ass wrong. He deserves to get clowned for that.

He just not ready for that sort of spotlight.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

eyeball her clothes to know the difference. All he had to go by was her words. But then she used an obscure acronym and he got tripped up. This is a technicality.

nobody brought mike up to roast him about being so fucking ignorant he got hoodwinked by someone who calls himself "colin noir"


he put himself on the screen.

and still you defend him like a loser.

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For 99.95% of the population, H&M means one thing. Google search results illustrate that

There was absolutely no way for him to not misunderstand. The caption is even phrased in a way that fits with H&M referencing the fashion brand

which doesn't suggest that it's the store.

or he could've been less of a terrible person and kept it moving entirely.

it's not her responsibility to not capitalize it so people don't make assumptions and throw themselves off of cliffs.

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https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rocking
1) To be wearing (ebonics)

e.g. Kanye rocked that Pelle Pelle like it was 1998.

If your only connection to H&M is clothing, then the sentence structure clearly implies that Cynthia was wearing H&M clothing at the photo shoot.

It was stupid to try to attack her on instagram for that (especially given that everybody has already forgotten about that monkey stuff), but don't act like most people wouldn't see H&M and immediately think of one of the biggest retail stores in the world

it was in service to trying to cape for that loser, but all the same the honesty is impressive.

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*weebay .gif*


Makes sense. I've never pondered what H&M stands for tho. Only time I ever am in that store is the 5 minutes it takes to buy gift cards for the girls in my family.

"you think I'm rocking that poor people shit?"

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Or did I get that wrong? Because progressives arent supposed to be mocking poor people for being poor.

I've never ever stopped stunting on you broke niggas for even so much as a second, so this would appear to be a misconception your part as to my character and what I'm about at a real base level.

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Old Married Man Aggression...



"Get ready....for your blessing....."

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claiming other people weren't "progressive" when they've never claimed to be, and based on rules I made up about not stunting like I'm accustomed to.

no wonder you're defending mike.

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like i'm progressive as fuck but i'll be damned if i ever step foot in a laundromat again

i don't need to patronize or purchase anything that's meant for poor people in order to fight for the rights of poor people.

i'm allowed to shun all that shit and none of that means i'm judging anyone who is poor. It means i've created standards of living for MYSELF that i choose to adhere to.

Y'all suffer from such a lack of critical thinking and nuance sometime that its horrifying.

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to do with my point.

you can't judge yet.



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but while they still exist tho....

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and wound up looking like a dope. he should just humbly accept his L and try to laugh this one off. no sense in digging himself any deeper.

And I've been a designer and stylist for 15 years.

Nevertheless, Killer Mike snipped himself by thinking it was okay to ambush a woman in her IG comments with a false equivalency. That the false equivalency was built on a false premise only makes the ricochet more impactful. The L is the same though.

You can't be the social justice "it" boy and have these types of high profile fuckups.

Hopefully these recent ego checks will get him back in line.

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when you have that much to lose.

Not saying KM is going to lose fans but his brand is taking a hit with these missteps.

Like his music, don't like the person.

Mike is going on her show soon, correct? Hopefully things remain civil on her show.

I also wonder if Run The Jewels are losing fans over Killer Mike's missteps. That would be pretty sad since El-P literally has nothing to do with what came from Killer Mike's mouth/keyboard.

over this stuff

Most run the jewels fans are men and would have had the same misunderstanding. But they're also mostly left leaning, and therefore anti-NRA.

dude has always rapped about owning guns and arming yourself.

He's from Georgia.

I would be kind of shocked if folks turned their backs on him over the NRA thing.

I think/hope most left leaning folks would understand people make mistakes. Not sure his message was a mistake just the platform he used.

but then again, you never know when it comes to politics. Folks are funny

>I would be kind of shocked if folks turned their backs on him
>over the NRA thing.
>
>I think/hope most left leaning folks would understand people
>make mistakes. Not sure his message was a mistake just the
>platform he used.
>
>but then again, you never know when it comes to politics.
>Folks are funny


his 'rap fans' are pretty much irrelevant on this topic

he was known outside of that for being semi-woke or whatevs

then he puts his foot in his mouth...got taken outta then paint for a sec...and then whilst in his temporary exile, tried to shoot back at one of those who criticized him....and the bullet ricocheted...
so now he is in his 2nd version of 'damage control'

never forgets

in the future, so *it* may or may not go away, depending on how professional the two of them are. Hopefully his appearance won't devolve into to talking heads talking past each other and he gets to present himself in a mature manner. A large part of that depends on the energy both parties bring to the show of course.

Hopefully both are respectful and tact.

Its her show, plus most people are siding with her, so shes got the high ground. The smart thing for him to do is go on her show, repent for his sins, and then go and never speak of this again. He strikes me as smart enough to get that by now.

Respect in my eyes is a two way street and if she's initially snarky to him or tries to bully him by clowning him since it's her show, I don't think Killer Mike should just sit there and be passive. To be clear, I don't agree with his pro-NRA stance, but he shouldn't go on the show to serve as a punching bag; he should be able to present his points to Joy Reid in a respectful manner, even if the two disagree.

I'm hoping both of them will approach the appearance in that manner and won't get too combative or talk past each other to serve their egos.

her comeback since she got Melissa Harris Perry's show. That's not about to change.

and #finegirlswhodeepthroat twitter hashtags(blessed be twitter). Aint nobody show up at their Lorde tour dates with protest signs, niggas (well mostly white people) were bopping and smoking weed as usual during their sets

He was the one at home still in his feels, plotting against Joy Reid of all people (although like RJ said above id like to think he got set up for the okey doke by a third party)


>>I would be kind of shocked if folks turned their backs on
>him
>>over the NRA thing.
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>>I think/hope most left leaning folks would understand people
>>make mistakes. Not sure his message was a mistake just the
>>platform he used.
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>>but then again, you never know when it comes to politics.
>>Folks are funny
>
>
>his 'rap fans' are pretty much irrelevant on this topic
>
>he was known outside of that for being semi-woke or whatevs
>
>then he puts his foot in his mouth...got taken outta then
>paint for a sec...and then whilst in his temporary exile,
>tried to shoot back at one of those who criticized him....and
>the bullet ricocheted...
>so now he is in his 2nd version of 'damage control'
>
>

Cause I immediately went to the googs with it and found nothing.


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

#finewomenthatdeepthroat

Dudes making 'WOW' memes kinda killed it along with the blatant thirstraps, but the spinoffs are pretty entertaining ( #finewomeninthemilitary).

when that next album drops are any fans gonna not check it or head nod cause of these missteps? I doubt it.

finger gun...but still....a gun.

"Get ready....for your blessing....."

he did take a bit of hit for the NRA vid cause he said, "I told my kids if they walk out, don't come back to this house..." line, sumthin to that affect

still, it seems most of his fan base, which to me, is surprisingly dude-bro or pothead white, rock with what he's been saying about guns

She said what "H&M" meant in her post. And she prolly abbreviated it to save character space. So who cares if it's a known or unknown term. The guy is still a dick for even going there with her like that.

>The guy is still a dick for even going
>there with her like that.

don't act like he is stupid for misunderstanding what the abbreviation H&M represents. It represents one thing for almost everybody, and that's cheap clothes that falls apart after one wash

I don't.

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https://i.imgur.com/c7c8aDx.jpg

We all misunderstood it the same way.

The problem is that it didn't seem to occur to him that he might possibly be misunderstanding something. If he had any humility he might have asked for clarification before he tried to cash in his internet points.

an unknown-unknown.

You only do what you're suggesting if you are aware you might be wrong. If you have some hint something might be off about your understanding. That, understandably, was not the case here.

His whole point was that it was ridiculous for Joy-Ann Reid to be trying to sell H&M clothes. If it's really that ridiculous (and I agree, it would be), then he should question his assumptions. That's not a situation where he would logically have "99% certainty."

that possibility. Shes not above being a hypocrite.

Look, I'm not denying KM was in his feels/wrong to be so aggressive. It's generally unseemly for a man to go in on a woman, especially in a public way. And I'm not defending his base NRA stance. I just think yall are being unfair and illogical here because you dont like his stance on the NRA stuff. That's whack to me.

but why is he the hypocrite police?

if he apologized and it's all over, why's he trying to find gotcha material on somebody else?

because he's a lying piece of shit and you want to defend his quest to tear down a black woman WHEN HE'S WRONG.


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I think y'all are expecting too much. Yeah, he looked like a fool in this situation.
But it's silly to say he should have done something no one else would think to do (check what H&M means)

>Yeah, he looked like a
>fool in this situation.


>But it's silly to say he should have done something no one
>else would think to do (check what H&M means)

If he didn't want to look like a fool, he should have held off and tried to figure out where he might be wrong. He chose not to do that, so he ended up looking like a fool, as everyone in here seems to agree. I don't know what you think anyone else is trying to say beyond that.

in the ass? Something you wouldn't have guessed in a million years you were wrong about? Something you didnt yhink you had to check first? Or do you check every single thing you believe to be true? Stop it 5.

nigga coulda clicked that instagram handle.

these women weren't modeling H&M and they don't look like women who model H&M clothing.

https://www.instagram.com/glamluxxe/

just because you're as silly as he is doesn't make his actions justifiable.

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mike made an ass of himself. it happens sometimes. for him, a lot lately.

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it doesn't make him any less of a dick or less clownable over his over-zealousness, but when i clicked the first link, i assumed it meant the store too

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"I cannot see how nature could have created itself. Only a supernatural force that is outside of space and time could have done that. ~ Francis Collins

I would have made the same mistake he did with H&M but man you can't be quick to call folks niggers. I'm not on that train. He gotta eat a whole lot of humble pie on this one.

https://twitter.com/KillerMike/status/983013471922122752

So egg on my face ♂️😌 and all I’m happy that the convo on #BlackGunOwnerShip will happen. Thank u @JoyAnnReid for “getting me together” on H&M and making sure this important convo can be had on an acceptable platform. ❤️✊

because, of course they are lol.

if he really apologized for that, then why would he need to find joy in a gotcha?

since it's all over and done with and he apologized and he was wrong?

he's a liar now, he's shown us his apology means nothing.

trash.

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is it more likely that killer mike and I have had a personal interaction.


or that there's a bunch of losers in here who I can clown and run circles around and that's something I enjoy doing.


because those are two possible explanations for why I'd be here.

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Haha

prob my fav reply in this post

http://www.okayplayer.com/culture/killer-mike-msnbc-joy-reid-nra.html

to keep their job. Plus he tried to toss out a whole bunch of deflection topics off the main reason for his appearance and initial apology.

I hope that he's learned his lesson. Chill and think before trying to CLAP at folks.


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"I cannot see how nature could have created itself. Only a supernatural force that is outside of space and time could have done that. ~ Francis Collins

>to keep their job. Plus he tried to toss out a whole bunch of
>deflection topics off the main reason for his appearance and
>initial apology.
>
>I hope that he's learned his lesson. Chill and think before
>trying to CLAP at folks.
>
>

He admitted he was wrong and apologized. You adding extra.

Needs to practice what he preaches.

Joy is reasonable and Mike is reasonable, no surprise.

and we eat it up

but thankfully these 2 were civil and didn't put on a show for the popcorn eaters

If something was going to happen it would have been bigger on twitter when it started.

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