I honestly don't follow him that closely, but I was always on some Chuck D's

"A follower of Farrakhan, don't tell me that you understand, until you hear the man"


At least not the follower part, but you don't tell me you understand him if you don't listen to him.

I know he has a lot of anti-semetic stuff out there, but I use to give him a pass of well that's from back in the day and he has evolved.

But talking about "the powerful Jews are my enemy." and the "Satanic Jew" in 2018?!??!?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/28/politics/louis-farrakhan-speech/index.html

I can't defend that. I wonder if Chuck D would.

What say you all?







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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

disagree w/ him about the shit i dont

and keep it moving.

.

they conflate unbiased with even/equal.

they (rightfully) have so much negative trump/repub coverage for legitimate scandals...they gotta break their backs to drum up scandals on the other side to try to make the right feel like cnn are playing things evenly.

so you drag up farrakhan and re-tie him to obama and also include an attendee from the womens march.

i saw tapper on twitter defending this dumb shit and calling normal twitter people who criticized him 'left wing activists' lol. dude sounded like rush limbaugh.

this is why the right wing manufactured outrage machine works. they spend so much time accusing fairly centrist or even center-right outlets of having a liberal bias...that those outlets unnecessarily go out of their way to shake the stigma.

Like the attempts to link Obama to Farrakhan are silly. If that's why this is in the news then I agree with you that is bullshit.

From an internal black ppl community perspective I am saying that I always felt Farrakhan was getting a bad rap for calling out white folks and they were attributed stuff to him that he moved away from.

I guess I didn't think in 2018 Farrakhan would be talking about, "Them damn jews!!"

Can't really give that a pass.



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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

i saw a speech of his like maybe a year ago and i was surprised at how stale and outdated his message was.

like dude still thinks we live in the gangsta rap era and most cats are talking about shooting niggas and *selling* drugs.

still talking about jewish slumlords.

still talking about homosexuality in opposition of natural law.

still putting the responsibility on women to dress more wholesome to prevent men from objectifying them.

still insinuating that he cant go really deep into what he *really* wants to say because the government has people out to kill him.

and then chemicals in our food that are turning us both feminine *and* violent.

i mean... you can put anyone/anything at the end of that sentence and I would agree

Ashkenaz from which Ashkenazi is derived is descended from Japheth which would make them Europeans not Semites as is detailed in the tanakh i.e. the jewish bible.


Palestinians are Semitic (to say the least) as are many or most arabs.

So you have a group of people who are mostly if not entirely European/Caucasian actually persecuting folks who are genetically semitic (by blood) and when you speak against the Ashkenazi who isn't a semite somehow it's anti-semetic.

>Ashkenaz from which Ashkenazi is derived is descended from
>Japheth which would make them Europeans not Semites as is
>detailed in the tanakh i.e. the jewish bible.
>
>
>Palestinians are Semitic (to say the least) as are many or
>most arabs.
>
>So you have a group of people who are mostly if not entirely
>European/Caucasian actually persecuting folks who are
>genetically semitic (by blood) and when you speak against the
>Ashkenazi who isn't a semite somehow it's anti-semetic.


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>

Bravo

>So you have a group of people who are mostly if not entirely
>European/Caucasian actually persecuting folks who are
>genetically semitic (by blood) and when you speak against the
>Ashkenazi who isn't a semite somehow it's anti-semetic.

SMH.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

I’m just saying..

powerful satanic _______ is loaded as shit.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

white folks.

or the desire to understand.

What do science and the history books say?

his house in chicago is about one block over and two blocks down from Obama's Chicago house in Hyde Park.

Everytime I drive by the folks who are out front ALWAYS wave hello

When I heard him talking about a generic GAWD instead of Allah (like his followers) I REAAAAALLLLY quit fkin with him.

I feel like he has handed himself over to politics.

I'm on some Mariah Carey. "I dont know him/her"

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and isn't the name of a deity, I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Can you explain a little more?

to the forefront of national news. with some help by people like jake tapper. theyre tryna pin this shit on the entire left like antifa (remember them?).

with that said...the womens march chicks are handling this horribly. they run an organization that involves a ton of liberal and suburban jewish and white women. they get donations from high profile philanthropists. theyre partnering with momsdemand, high school kids, and families to help combat gun violence. you simply cant stand behind the jewish rhetoric that leaves farrakhans mouth if you wanna maintain your platform for the greater good.

i already see women and local politicians talking about abandoning the organization. all the womens march folks had to do was denounce the shit and it woulda lasted half a news cycle under everything else that is going on. instead this shit is gaining steam and leaching into mainstream coverage.

No need to bring Judah into it. He's getting left in the dust by the age of information.

Ironically his safety is guaranteed until he start talking about peace. Then it's a wrap.

This muhfucka had Malcolm killed.
I don't give no fuck what he got to say.

>This muhfucka had Malcolm killed.
>I don't give no fuck what he got to say.


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I don't get why a black man is taking up an Arab mans fight so vociferously. I get he's muslim and all but don't we have our own problems?

and EVERYONE bit off that shit.

wouldnt have happened without farrakhan

*I* dont think "the jews" run all media.

nor do i think "the jews" do this or that.

in fact...i am not thinking much abt the jews. PERIOD.

im worried abt Black people. and to the extent that ANYONE else on the scene is. Farrakhan is or was. the end.

"Family business" and such

Funny how that is not in the top 10 things 1st associated with him


The vacuum of "black community" leadership
+ the culture's need for the strong man/ hero worship,

+ his oratory skills and our love for those who can 'tell whitey like it is',

Is the only reason he still able to get attn 20 years after the march.




That plus the probability that, just like your fav IG girl with the dubai yacht pix, he got a sponsor somewhere in the middle East
#tagyoursponsor



The women's noi outfits are fly tho

*shrugs*

and cry like a little ole Betty pie they is Oppressed?

Minister Farrikhan is a better musican than alot of what you hear. he got crazy skills on Violin.

And by that I mean to what extent are you willing to defend this dude?


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

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he sounds crazy talking that shit. I can't even make it about "the language he uses" when he makes it about "Jews".

Why are the Farrakhan threads popping back up today, what'd he say / do ?

why are we held responsible for addressing his hateful beliefs?

https://www.villagevoice.com/2011/07/01/scientology-and-the-nation-of-islam-a-heartwarming-independence-weekend-parable/

Conservatives get all up in arms about every wild thing he throws out there, but he hasn't been a cultural influencer since the 80's/90's.

These days I feel like Black America is more entertained by his delivery than actually heeding his message. He's become like our Alex Jones.

Let Farrakhan cook.

when people say it, do they understand the true meaning of it? and so
many people say it, it's awful. it's such a powerful word. like
Meghan McCain and company tried to go in on Tamika Mallory (organizer
of the woman's march in d.c.). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLeaH3jI2yU

i wish people would call them out but, i completely understand if
they don't. it's too messy.

dyor though.

and people keep repeating it, like puppets. when blacks
repeat it, it makes me sad.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

the term is no bueno in a discussion that includes arabs.


the term came into vogue, historically, when jews were being oppressed in europe. hebrew is a semitic language, jews are a semitic people. but they are not the only semitic people.

so the whole 'anti-semitic' thing breaks down when you inject that into discussions of people hating or disparaging jewish people (or merely criticizing them) from a position of advocacy or defense of arabic people, such as the palestinians, because they are also 'semitic' people.

farrakhan is anti-jewish. that's more precise and prevents nullification of the lives and experiences of palestinians who have legitimate grievances with israel and its supporters.

fun fact:

arabic is the most widely spoken semitic language. amharic (spoken in ethiopia) is second.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_languages

"The most widely spoken Semitic languages today are (numbers given are for native speakers only) Arabic (300 million), Amharic (22 million), Tigrinya (7 million), Hebrew (~5 million native/L1 speakers), Tigre (~1.05 million), Aramaic (575,000 to 1 million largely Assyrian fluent speakers) and Maltese (483,000 speakers)."


that has nothing to do with the genetic origins of folks who are jewish.

that label gets thrown on people a LOT for advocacy on behalf of palestinians or even for questioning the actions of the nation state of israel. but calling someone anti-semitic behind that makes as much sense as calling someone anti-asian for hating chinese people but really loving the japanese.

when farrakhan says some anti-jewish shit, he's not necessarily coming from the same bag as the nazis, but, un-ironically, a lot of the generalizations and mythologizing and demonizing is shared, and that's problematic. and been so.





peace & blessings,

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I'm an advocate for working smarter, not harder. If you just
focus on working hard you end up making someone else rich and
not having much to show for it. (c) mad

Zionism is a policy and mission statement
Jew is a human being

I disagree with a lot of policies and goals of my own country (US), and i certainly dont hate myself.

You can disagree with the idea that Palestinians should be removed from their homes and land for the sake of giving it to European Jews, without having any innate hatred or malice for Jews as human beings.

Talk about semantics.

though I do appreciate poetx's breakdown because it was an explanation instead of a deflection.

cause you know...people can say anything.