the youth vote, and the low-income vote (!) in '16 and STILL lost to 45, even with more votes, because he had like 20% more of the white vote and a broader geographic reach (i.e. Middle America https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/da/2016_Presidential_Election_by_County.svg/474px-2016_Presidential_Election_by_County.svg.png )

Of course black votes matter. I really hope what I'm saying isn't misinterpreted to say they don't. But black people also account for only 12.5% of the electorate (https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2019/01/PSDT_2020electorate-00.png), and are an almost guaranteed vote for Dems already (especially against 45).

Personally? I think a black agenda and a politician that will actually follow through on it is more consequential than representation.. at *this* particular moment in post-Obama politics. But even ignoring that, black voters did not rally around any of the black candidates in this primary and I think that says a lot.

I worry that Dems approach GEs like they do a primary. It's about appealing to "America*..not just a cut of the Dem base imho.

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Stacy isn't actually that progressive tho, she's more moderate/center-left (which I'm not complaining about, lol). Check out her most recent appearance on the View. She was basically like yeeaa.. I grew up poor, it's not fun, I don't see wealth as a bad thing lol.. markets are cool just regulate them (paraphrasing, but that was the general gist. watch it for her actual wording).
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