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13189036, Why do some white rappers get a "pass"? Posted by double negative, Mon Aug-28-17 11:17 AM
First off, a good rapper is a good rapper - this is not a post about who should or should not be rapping
This is more about the idea that with some rappers who are white do not have their whiteness enter the dialogue.
AKA Invited to the cookout and there are no questions about authenticity.
Like, I've been on a mini Paul Wall kick for a second and I realized that I dont recall any talks of him "appropriating the culture" came up - I'm not saying he's doing anything that should warrant such a talk, but I wonder why he was given a pass but then someone like Iggy or Macklemore was given a hard time
maybe its just down to whos good vs. whos wack. OR maybe its down to just keeping it real. Iggy was trying to be something shes not but someone like Paull or the Beastie Boys were true to who they were.
I think I'm not explaining it well
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13189037, i think its mostly this: Posted by KiloMcG, Mon Aug-28-17 11:18 AM
>OR maybe its >down to just keeping it real. Iggy was trying to be something >shes not but someone like Paull or the Beastie Boys were true >to who they were.
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13189038, tell me more about this... Posted by Trinity444, Mon Aug-28-17 11:21 AM
>> OR maybe its >down to just keeping it real. Iggy was trying to be something >shes not
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13189042, you remember when she was at her peak? Posted by double negative, Mon Aug-28-17 11:26 AM
and people hated her for her rapping voice and how it contrasted with her Aussie accent?
TO BE FAIR though, as cringeworthy as her rapping voice was...I kinda get it because I think of how many English/Irish/Scottish bands sing and perform with American accents, but, then again, there is a specific history of black face performances which...yeah thats is a layer at play with Iggy, or at least with the reactions people had with her
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13189040, I remember Pawl Wowl gettin shitted on here Posted by j., Mon Aug-28-17 11:25 AM
during the Still Tippin/Peoples Champ era but off OKP everyone loved him
It's just a matter of skill really Beasties/3rd Bass/El-P/Em/Paul Wall can actually rap and made good records They all had hits (not so much Co Flow/Def Jux but they were gods in that scene) and could've easily went pop but the audience crossed over to them
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13189044, wasn't Paul Wal selling grills in the hood before he blew up? Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Aug-28-17 11:31 AM
and the Beastie Boys were punk rock rap... never came off like they were mocking rap.
Iggy seems like once this ride is over she is going to take her costume off...
Macklemore only gets heat cause dude beat Kendrick at the grammy's. Never understood the hate for dude. Never listened to his music tho.. but it seemed like fun hip hop and wasn't on some fake shit.
Beastie Boys are the only one's I'm real familiar with.
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13189049, And slinging mixtapes at Ingram Park mall Posted by MEAT, Mon Aug-28-17 11:35 AM
Houston is a different place. You'd have to live it.
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13189045, have you ever been to a cookout where a white person/ppl Posted by SoWhat, Mon Aug-28-17 11:32 AM
were present?
how'd it go?
i can't tell you why some white ppl get a pass and others don't.
it's a feeling.
real recognize real.
it's a feeling.
Paul Wall...i mean, look. he seemed to have the right co-signs from ppl who seem like the type who would've checked him if needed. so i guess that was that.
he seem like he type who wouldn't violate at the cookout. like he might come thru w/some good brown liquor. to share. and maybe roll a couple blunts. to share. and not act funny about anything. that's good enough.
Macklemore...he has a denny problem. he thinks b/c he's checked all the right boxes on the survey that he should get love from __. and then almost gets indignant when it's not that way. he's doing too much. trying too hard. not just being himself. like he wants credit for not being racist/sexist/homophobic. as if that's something that deserves credit. you don't get credit for doing the right thing. or for not doing the wrong thing. that's like wanting credit for watching/taking care of your kids. that's what you're SUPPOSED to do. ain't nobody bigging you up for doing what you're supposed to do. he wants praise for it. he's trying too hard. nah.
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13189048, RIGHT! Posted by double negative, Mon Aug-28-17 11:34 AM
>were present? > >how'd it go? > >i can't tell you why some white ppl get a pass and others >don't. > >it's a feeling. > >real recognize real. > >it's a feeling. > >Paul Wall...i mean, look. he seemed to have the right >co-signs from ppl who seem like the type who would've checked >him if needed. so i guess that was that. > >he seem like he type who wouldn't violate at the cookout. >like he might come thru w/some good brown liquor. to share. >and maybe roll a couple blunts. to share. and not act funny >about anything. that's good enough.
all of what you said is what I was trying to touch upon...like, what TF is that? I think you said it best when its "real recognize real"
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13189059, not being/seeming uncomfortable around black people goes a long Posted by KiloMcG, Mon Aug-28-17 11:42 AM
way for us white boys. just be cool, it'll be ok.
but a lot of that is familiarity. most white people don't interact with black or otherwise really at all, so they don't even know how they're supposed to act. which is silly because you're not supposed to "act" at all. just be cool.
but shit, i probably seem more uncomfortable in all white environments at this point, especially social gatherings. shit's too uptight for me. and no, i'm not trying to score points as has been alluded to by everyone's favorite alt-right fuckboy. it's just the reality of my life, my day to day. i'm rarely in majority white environments other than my soccer league.
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13189072, RE: not being/seeming uncomfortable around black people goes a long Posted by MEAT, Mon Aug-28-17 11:51 AM
>way for us white boys. just be cool, it'll be ok. > >but a lot of that is familiarity. most white people don't >interact with black or otherwise really at all, so they don't >even know how they're supposed to act. which is silly because >you're not supposed to "act" at all. just be cool.
And here in lies a problem. You don't have to be cool, just be yourself, if you're naturally angsty/angry/a dick we'll read that an adjust to you, just be who you are. Same social rules apply as anywhere else as with black people. Don't come in peacocking unless you can take that crown from the peacock of the ground, don't disrespect the elders, and if you new to the group wait to see where someone fits you in rather than trying to get in where you feel you fit in.
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13189074, be cool/be yourself. that's what i was saying. Posted by KiloMcG, Mon Aug-28-17 11:54 AM
and this largely applies to any group, black white or otherwise:
>Don't come in peacocking unless you can take that crown from the peacock of the ground, don't disrespect the elders, and if you new to the group wait to see where someone fits you in rather than trying to get in where you feel you fit in.
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13189076, RE: be cool/be yourself. that's what i was saying. Posted by MEAT, Mon Aug-28-17 11:56 AM
And I'm saying there's a difference. Like when you're high and you tell yourself just be cool and nobody will know that you're high, that's how some of yall look to us, wild uncomfortable, thinking that you're hiding it, and making the situation more uncomfortable.
It's why many of us fuck with rednecks (to a degree) more than "normal" white people, because they wear whatever they got going on in the open.
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13189078, fair enough. i did say don't "act", so we're mostly saying the same Posted by KiloMcG, Mon Aug-28-17 11:59 AM
thing. i understand the distinction that you're making, so my wording may have not been exactly the same as yours, but we're largely saying the same thing.
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13189084, sounds like you're describing humanity Posted by double negative, Mon Aug-28-17 12:03 PM
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13189094, And yet many white people still don't get it. Funny right? Posted by MEAT, Mon Aug-28-17 12:12 PM
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13189101, man. hell yeah. Posted by double negative, Mon Aug-28-17 12:18 PM
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13189088, Doug (Tom Hanks) on Black Jeopardy (SNL). Posted by SoWhat, Mon Aug-28-17 12:05 PM
i can't say enough how well done this shit is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7VaXlMvAvk
i mean, that's all of it right there.
that's this whole post.
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13189116, yup! Posted by double negative, Mon Aug-28-17 12:28 PM
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13189089, wait? we really fuck with rednecks like that? Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Aug-28-17 12:05 PM
and I took kilo's be cool to mean.. just calm down and be yourself.
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13189096, We don't really fuck with rednecks Posted by MEAT, Mon Aug-28-17 12:13 PM
But "you folks sure know how to cook" sounds wild different coming from a redneck that a squirrley white guy.
I took be cool as in to just try to play cool, but my thing is, if you're not feeling cool and and you want to play that part that makes it that much worse. Because we can see that.
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13189133, LOL...common sense aint that common Posted by ambient1, Mon Aug-28-17 12:49 PM
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13189047, if they are validated by their own local scene.... Posted by The3rdOne, Mon Aug-28-17 11:32 AM
and if that said local scene is validated on the map....
well then....
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13189052, ^ key. Posted by SoWhat, Mon Aug-28-17 11:37 AM
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13189050, It's the difference between Teena Marie and Madonna Posted by atruhead, Mon Aug-28-17 11:37 AM
nothing is wrong with Madonna but mandingo fetishes and appropriating our looks aside, nothing felt black about Madonna
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13189077, naw. Posted by SoWhat, Mon Aug-28-17 11:58 AM
b/c Madonna would be invited to the cookout.
b/c she'd be herself.
a white person doesn't need to 'feel Black' to be down at the cookout. they just need to be authentic (as in themselves) and not offensive (as in don't be on some anti-black shit).
Teena Marie might be asked to cook something for the cookout (hell, Teena's kids' grandparent/auntie/et al is probably hosting the cookout, let's be for real) whereas ain't nobody asking Madonna to bring anything but herself and maybe some weed.
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13189108, Say it again. I feel like this point is lost on so many folks. Posted by Marbles, Mon Aug-28-17 12:24 PM
>a white person doesn't need to 'feel Black' to be down at the >cookout. they just need to be authentic (as in themselves) >and not offensive (as in don't be on some anti-black shit).
It's OK for them to like Stone Temple Pilots and Alanis Morrisette. You don't have to know the words to the latest rap songs. Just be yourself and treat people right. It's not asking a whole lot.
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13189115, her wearing cornrows felt inauthentic Posted by atruhead, Mon Aug-28-17 12:28 PM
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13189131, k. Posted by SoWhat, Mon Aug-28-17 12:47 PM
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13189053, where does Logic fit on this scale Posted by T Reynolds, Mon Aug-28-17 11:38 AM
I just found out about him last night
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13189057, he's mixed and he mentions it on the majority of his songs Posted by atruhead, Mon Aug-28-17 11:40 AM
his audience is largely white or mulatto, blacks find him "corny"
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13189079, He's a 26 year old from the suburbs that goes by Logic and isn't Posted by MEAT, Mon Aug-28-17 12:00 PM
thorough. What about him isn't corny?
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13189087, oh interesting Posted by T Reynolds, Mon Aug-28-17 12:04 PM
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13189058, Machine Gun Kelly is wack as fuck, to me, but 'Til I die' was legit af Posted by kevlar skully, Mon Aug-28-17 11:42 AM
As talented as Em is, people slob him down way too much.
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13189083, Eminem gets a black pass? He's always gotten a rap pass yeah Posted by MEAT, Mon Aug-28-17 12:03 PM
But outside of Detroit do people fuck with him like he's people?
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13189092, ehh, that rap pass is all he needs Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Aug-28-17 12:09 PM
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13189125, I don't think Texas fucks with em the way other regions might. Posted by MEAT, Mon Aug-28-17 12:38 PM
He's always had his talent recognized there and simultaneously been viewed as the voice of angst ridden white boys
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13189135, any club Em walks up to he is getting treated like a King Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Aug-28-17 12:50 PM
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13189148, He's rich of course he is. We still treat Steve Francis like royalty. Posted by MEAT, Mon Aug-28-17 01:07 PM
But if your promoter is pushing a party hosted by Em vs a party hosted by James Harden the Harden party is selling out with black folks.
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13189153, Oh, Em ain't never bringing Black folk out to the clubs.. lol Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Aug-28-17 01:09 PM
but I meant dude could roll through the hood party and it wouldn't be a problem for obvious reasons.
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13189114, Em is in an interesting place Posted by double negative, Mon Aug-28-17 12:27 PM
even though he rapped with dre and folks early on the mall/skater/rock crowd claimed him
you had kids who hated rap but loved him
and actually I remember back in socal the rock stations would play Em's music all the time, other rappers, not so much.
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13189118, rap pass is all Em needs. People worship that motherfucker, everywhere Posted by kevlar skully, Mon Aug-28-17 12:30 PM
which speaks to how rap music is damn near religion to many of us
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13189183, he's still selling millions of albums. Posted by tariqhu, Mon Aug-28-17 01:34 PM
its crazy, but he still gets played on pop/rock stations. can't touch hip hop radio.
I wish he could make a straight up rap album without the stadium anthem type songs. even full of lose yourself kind of tracks would be dope. it wouldn't sell like his previous albums tho.
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13189214, Been saying this since 2010. Posted by Brew, Mon Aug-28-17 02:06 PM
>I wish he could make a straight up rap album without the >stadium anthem type songs.
Just get some hip hop beats. And rhyme on beat, with some rhythm. No more "you can't stop me now !" motivational speaking songs. No more raprock, trash beats. No more screaming. Just rap good on some dope beats. He doesn't need the money. Is just looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong overdue for some good music.
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13189233, exactly!! Posted by tariqhu, Mon Aug-28-17 02:42 PM
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13189082, RE: Why do some white rappers get a "pass"? Posted by double 0, Mon Aug-28-17 12:02 PM
TBH
Timing was the issue with Iggy...
the entire industry .. black dudes included were fawning over this version of iggy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp34imC7jVE
Her whole D.R.U.G.S crew at the time was black LA dudes writing her raps and beats etc...
Southern dudes taught her how to rap.. hence the accent..
She was the first casualty in the modern cultural appropriation wars.. I don't think she was prepared to be used as a pawn by the media (her having a #1 record when Nicki wasn't as successful).. and reacted extremely poorly vs azalea and q tip..
add in some bad tweets from 18 yr old iggy and a knack for defending her grind over just shutting the fuck up...
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13189093, Iggy didn't have black women riding for her while riding against black Posted by MEAT, Mon Aug-28-17 12:11 PM
women. She wasn't cosigned by near any big name black women, while being pitted against them professionally, and propped up by black men. That was a bad look and wasn't gonna end well. It's tough enough to be a woman rapper as it is, to have no cache with the woman community? Good luck
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13189097, I don't agree Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Aug-28-17 12:14 PM
it wasn't timing it was how she responded to the hits.
any white person showing up talking hood without receipts is going to get that hate and it's all in how they respond.
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13189136, RE: I don't agree Posted by double 0, Mon Aug-28-17 12:50 PM
Nah... cuz Kreayshaun went unscathed
Iggy was forced to have to speak on shit she wasn't prepared for
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13189145, Kreayshan got it so bad you couldn't even buy her album on itunes Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Aug-28-17 01:04 PM
and that was because industry insiders made sure that shit wouldn't sell.
My peoples worked on that debut album and said they got a call from _________ and dude was like "we making sure that album doesn't sell so stop working with her"
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13189194, RE: Kreayshan got it so bad you couldn't even buy her album on itunes Posted by double 0, Mon Aug-28-17 01:41 PM
eeehhh....
If she had a hit on that project shit wouldnt matter... she didnt
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13189211, bruh, how you only sell physical copies at Hot Topic for a major release? Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Aug-28-17 01:59 PM
Itunes doesn't give a shit if you have a hit or not bruh
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13189208, I actually went down a Lil' Debbie hole before this post Posted by double negative, Mon Aug-28-17 01:57 PM
because I...I dunno I guess I had a moment of nostalgia
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13189220, lil Debbie? sounds like you were giving out passes left and right. lol Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Aug-28-17 02:17 PM
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13189221, no. it was more like "hey, whatever happened to...." Posted by double negative, Mon Aug-28-17 02:23 PM
I don't give out passes. I'm just into music, man.
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13189261, that shit didn't sound like music to me but whatever...lol Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Aug-28-17 03:22 PM
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13189263, you've been heard. Posted by double negative, Mon Aug-28-17 03:26 PM
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13189269, let's make it easier: Posted by SoWhat, Mon Aug-28-17 03:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEqa90XpPw0
now he can stfu.
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13189110, * daps you up * Posted by PROMO, Mon Aug-28-17 12:24 PM
you summed this up perfectly.
know how i know this, cuz i fucking rode for THAT Iggy...HOARD.
then, when she actually came out to the world, i was lookin like the damn Wee Bey gif like "uh, where's the Iggy w/ fire ass beats who was spittin bars?"
the industry WASHED her.
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13189137, haha.. your white tho...lol Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Aug-28-17 12:51 PM
just sayin'
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13189149, that is a fact. Posted by PROMO, Mon Aug-28-17 01:07 PM
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13189151, lol Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Aug-28-17 01:08 PM
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13189210, same. OG Iggy had promise Posted by double negative, Mon Aug-28-17 01:58 PM
but hollywood and the industry ate her up like a nowlater
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13189166, because some white folks are real and some of em are flaw. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Aug-28-17 01:19 PM
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13189179, They don't as far as I'm concrned... Posted by Creole, Mon Aug-28-17 01:33 PM
The last White rappers I really listened to were the Beastie Boys and 3rd Bass.
Otherwise, I ain't pay attention. There was a song or three here and there but they were nothing I was ever interested in giving a bunch of attention to.
Eminem is one White rapper I could never relate to even though he did his thing on Jay's "Renegades."
Bubba Sparxx had that one single one time a long time ago.
Yelawolf got busy on Big Boi's album a while back.
Paul Wall had a song back in the early Aughts.
El-P, as a member of RTJ, is tolerated by me but I listen mainly cuz I really dig Killer Mike. That Company Flow stuff was trash to me. Was one of the worst cassettes I'd ever purchased. There was absolutely nothing on there I could dance to. Believe it or not, people always dug being able to dance to rap music. I copped it cuz it was being pushed hard in The Source.
Ain't no knock against all White rappers cuz there may be a dope one out there somewhere. I've just not been interested. Thus, no pass given by me.
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13189191, bruh... I was so mad at that Company Flow Album Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Aug-28-17 01:40 PM
I road the bus in the heat to get that shit and 2 songs in I was so mad at myself.
that being said, Mr Len was a dope as DJ. Prolly the best party DJ I ever seen in action. One time he opened for a hip hop show and I got booed off the stage in DC when I said the show was starting in 15 minutes
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13189202, LOL! Imagine tryna bump that around Howard's campus... Posted by Creole, Mon Aug-28-17 01:48 PM
in '97 or anywhere in DC during those days.
I couldn't play it on the way to the club. I couldn't play it on the way to listen to live music at State of The Union. I couldn't play it on the way to listen to live music at the 9:30 Club. I couldn't get amped and hype it up to the fellas at my barbershop on MLK Ave. SE. I just couldn't play it.
Funcrusher Plus was literally a damned fun crusher!
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13189212, I was in Richmond and backpackers were trying to force themselves Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Aug-28-17 02:01 PM
but it wasn't possible.
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13189215, Glad to hear it wasn't just me... Posted by Creole, Mon Aug-28-17 02:07 PM
LOL
Some folks actually consider that album to be a classic.
#deadass
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13189219, Shit, I tried to like it... Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Aug-28-17 02:17 PM
but I couldn't find the beat in half those songs. Shit was just noise to me.
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13189222, remember backpacker hate during the shiny suit era? Posted by double negative, Mon Aug-28-17 02:24 PM
you could literally roast a chicken off that hate
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13189230, hell yeah, I had a flamethrower in my backpack Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Aug-28-17 02:41 PM
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13189254, Hell yeah but, then, there were others, who like me, enjoyed... Posted by Creole, Mon Aug-28-17 03:09 PM
backpacker stuff as well as the shiny suit stuff.
Like I said above, rap music that makes you boogie is always where I'm at.
And at that time, you could still find backpacker stuff mixed in with shiny suit stuff on Tony Touch mixtapes or any other DJ's mixtapes.
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13189257, Hell yeah! Then, there were others, like me, who enjoyed... Posted by Creole, Mon Aug-28-17 03:12 PM
being a backpacker while also rockin' to the shiny suit stuff.
Like I said above, rap music that makes you boogie is always where I'm at.
And at that time, you could still find backpacker stuff mixed in with shiny suit stuff on Tony Touch mixtapes or any other DJ's mixtapes.
Now that I think about it, it wasn't until '97/'98 that rap really jumped the shark enough for there to even be a true backpacker crowd. Before then, everybody was listening to stuff that was found in backpacks but also on the radio.
Either way and back to the topic at hand, NO PASSES GIVEN!
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13189287, I'm in line for company flow being trash Posted by Mgmt, Mon Aug-28-17 04:10 PM
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13189207, For most of us who went to a HBCU, we had the diff types of White boys Posted by -DJ R-Tistic-, Mon Aug-28-17 01:57 PM
And I think most of us knew a few who felt like they could be a "Paul Wall," an "Eminem," or at worst, a "B-Rad."
You can ALWAYS tell the ones who are trying too hard to fit in. Some were more Paul Wall, and grew up around all Blacks, and just felt naturally Black enough for us to not question them. They didn't try too hard to defend Blacks, and it always seemed natural. Some were more Eminem, in that they were comfortable in their Whiteness, and we were cool with them although they didn't have that "natural Black" feel. This is similar to a Beastie Boy type.
Then.......those got damn B-Rads. The ones that purposely bought the Jordans and baggy jeans to fit in. The ones who were almost loud whenever someone White did something wrong, just so he could prove he was down for the cause. Always using every slang word, even mixing up slang from different regions in a confusing way.
So with artists...it's the same. A Bobby Caldwell, Teena Marie, etc etc they don't force it, and they're comfortable being White while having soul.
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13189223, paul wall never seemed like he was attempting to cross over Posted by Rjcc, Mon Aug-28-17 02:27 PM
and gain a white audience.
among other factors, I think that was a big thing for him.
www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
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13189225, counter point, he did do a single with Brooke Hogan Posted by GOMEZ, Mon Aug-28-17 02:31 PM
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13189229, 'well, he IS white after all' (c) me. Posted by SoWhat, Mon Aug-28-17 02:39 PM
LOL
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13189231, I bet she paid well too Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Aug-28-17 02:41 PM
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13189238, you know it did. Posted by GOMEZ, Mon Aug-28-17 02:46 PM
also, i don't really think it was his attempt to cross over. I don't imagine at any point Paul Wall was like, 'if i can get this Brooke Hogan single to take off, I'll finally be big time!'
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13189240, lol. everybody gotta eat Posted by Rjcc, Mon Aug-28-17 02:52 PM
www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
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13189232, Paul Wall IS Houston black culture. He is authentic Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Mon Aug-28-17 02:41 PM
There are no passes necessary. That's who he is. Houston respects him. Same with Eminem. (It doesn't hurt they they are good at what they do)
I don't see any issues with Macklemore. But someone like Iggy gets flack because it seems like they flip a switch to get into rapper mode
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13189281, Does Alchemist get a pass? I mean look at this: Posted by stattic, Mon Aug-28-17 03:49 PM
http://www.passionweiss.com/2014/05/15/funkee-phlavaz-the-greatest-video-show-that-no-one-saw/
I have always found Alchemist's music boring and little reductive, even before I knew that he was from Beverly Hills, and never knew why he got a pass. For example, in his verse on "Hold You Down," he talks about not taking the stand, dying for his fam, and being down for the cause. Really, Alan, dying? Didn't ring genuine.
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13189291, Alchemist music is boring and reductive Posted by Mgmt, Mon Aug-28-17 04:17 PM
8-28-2017: the day I've officially heard it all
> >http://www.passionweiss.com/2014/05/15/funkee-phlavaz-the-greatest-video-show-that-no-one-saw/ > >I have always found Alchemist's music boring and little >reductive, even before I knew that he was from Beverly Hills, >and never knew why he got a pass. For example, in his verse on >"Hold You Down," he talks about not taking the stand, dying >for his fam, and being down for the cause. Really, Alan, >dying? Didn't ring genuine.
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13189378, Yeah Im done with this place Posted by isaaaa, Mon Aug-28-17 06:53 PM
Anti-gentrification, cheap alcohol & trying to look pretty in our twilight posting years (c) Big Reg
Just trying to share the world - www.JySbr.net
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13189442, Alchemist's music is as inspired and original as these replies Posted by stattic, Tue Aug-29-17 07:30 AM
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13189295, yeah alc got a triple OG pass Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Aug-28-17 04:23 PM
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13189443, The Whooliganz were awful but had money Posted by stattic, Tue Aug-29-17 07:37 AM
"I got mad style, I get buckwild, on the DL with the low profile"...like they just threw together backpacker slang words that rhymed
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13189314, the Whooliganz were cosigned by Soul Assassins Posted by T Reynolds, Mon Aug-28-17 04:37 PM
i think that's all the credibility they needed
when you're a beatmaker first and foremost, nobody cares as much if you're white
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13189381, Especially if you giving away heat for cheap or free early on Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Aug-28-17 07:05 PM
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