Doesn't sound like the way you want to follow-up Game of Thrones

http://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/tv/game-thrones-creators-craft-alt-reality-post-civil-war-america-n784696

I think a project like that should only be helmed by a black person and even then every misstep is still going to cause a lot of outrage.

Maybe a book series that if it does well, get's made into a series. But out the box TV Series which such a topic just because they pulled off Game of Thrones? Nahh.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

I ain't watching that shit but
confederacyphilia is a thing, a big thing nowadays
I'm 99.9% sure we're the only country on earth that fetishizes and romanticizes their civil war
pretty sure there's no French people longing for a return to the days of Marie Antoinette
Lincoln crushed the treasonous slaveholders and their descendants and affiliated scumbags still can't get over it

>pretty sure there's no French people longing for a return to
>the days of Marie Antoinette

Not like black folks are the target audience for GOT in the first place and best believe there wouldn't be a single black person in that series if the studio could have had it their way

and the show would do fine without the few token black characters I've seen

so many different ways this show can go there's no point in wilding out about it being announced.

plus the shit is at minimum 3 years away anyway.

If the South Wins the Civil War (or doesn't lose), how long does slavery persist?

If it persists to the present folks will be mad to suggest Black People wouldn't otherwise rise up (rightly so).

If it doesn't persist much longer for other reasons people will be mad for suggesting the Civil War wasn't necessary (rightly so).

I have a hard time given two white guys doing this the wait and see.



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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

https://www.amazon.com/Underground-Airlines-Ben-Winters/dp/0316261246

It's about a black dude forced (the old exploding device in the body trick) to go undercover hunting freed slaves in the north; he did a great job portraying the south as a shit dystopian forbidden place and most importantly threw in some good critiques at northern liberal racism.

Im in a bookclub with a couple of woke black teachers and I threw it at em to make sure it wasn't time to call the drop ships on me and they thought it was well written too...however...

It's alot easier to cover your ass in a novel since you have access to everyone's thoughts and risky scenes can be literally explained away within the text...not sure if GOT has EVER had that kind of subtlety.




>If the South Wins the Civil War (or doesn't lose), how long
>does slavery persist?
>
>If it persists to the present folks will be mad to suggest
>Black People wouldn't otherwise rise up (rightly so).
>
>If it doesn't persist much longer for other reasons people
>will be mad for suggesting the Civil War wasn't necessary
>(rightly so).
>
>I have a hard time given two white guys doing this the wait
>and see.
>
>
>
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>"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then
>they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
>
>"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

I'm gonna peep this.

meaning swap out androids foe black folks and you have the same general outline?

Arguably Deckard in Blade Runner was learning to have empathy for the androids and it starts off just like a regular job (and only towards the end one would argue started to question his place in the system).

The book starts off tackling the self loathing he main character feels for what he has to do and while he does run into other negros its really a story about fucked white people and society at large which is why I was surprised the writer was white. He doesn't nail it 100%, but he damn well gets between 90-95% right so I gotta assume he got black people (or a black editor) to help him out with it.

>meaning swap out androids foe black folks and you have the
>same general outline?

Have been hesitant to open it. Now I will. Thanks.

as a country as to the relationship between the civil war and slavery.

teaching the civil war is a chore because there's so much b.s. around this idea of it being a fulcrum in american history. kids don't learn enough about the context before/leading up to/reconstruction/after.

i do think a show like this done well helps with eroding that mythos. the conflict started long before the war and hasn't ended.

but then i feel like maybe, especially in 2017, people do need to believe in the power of moments like the emancipation proclamation, or juneteenth, or brown v board, or loving, or the civil rights act.

we do need a generation of young people right now who believe that phase changes in regards to race relations are possible.

an inherently unbalanced equation become balanced.

War,

In a long view historical perspective, it's obvious that segregation, the civil rights movement, Barack Obama and Donald Trump and everything in-between are all a part of the larger story of the transition from a slave nation to a not slave nation.



>as a country as to the relationship between the civil war and
>slavery.
>
>teaching the civil war is a chore because there's so much b.s.
>around this idea of it being a fulcrum in american history.
>kids don't learn enough about the context before/leading up
>to/reconstruction/after.
>
>i do think a show like this done well helps with eroding that
>mythos. the conflict started long before the war and hasn't
>ended.
>
>but then i feel like maybe, especially in 2017, people do need
>to believe in the power of moments like the emancipation
>proclamation, or juneteenth, or brown v board, or loving, or
>the civil rights act.
>
>we do need a generation of young people right now who believe
>that phase changes in regards to race relations are possible.
>


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Alt-History is pretty big in the sci-fi genre, but I really don't see this working too well. Plus it would be hard not to trip over/plagiarize all the other authors who have already done this concept.
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They make SURE you know that a future where the religious right wins is gonna be fucked for us all.

The show can work I just wonder

1)Who's the audience, lol
2)What's the writers room looking like? not only do they have to serve the greater plots of the show they gotta do it while not coming off unintentionally racist
3)What can they bring to the table since like Warriorpoet said above me it's not necessarily an original idea

Room.

But the problem is they wouldn't really be a counter-weight to D&D. I would really want to see a Shonda Rhimes type name at the top of this.


>They make SURE you know that a future where the religious
>right wins is gonna be fucked for us all.
>
>The show can work I just wonder
>
>1)Who's the audience, lol
>2)What's the writers room looking like? not only do they have
>to serve the greater plots of the show they gotta do it while
>not coming off unintentionally racist
>3)What can they bring to the table since like Warriorpoet said
>below it's not necessarily an original idea


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

from The Daily Beast...

One positive note regarding the series is that black writers Nichelle Tramble Spellman and Malcolm Spellman will also serve as executive producers and writers on the series, and Game of Thrones is indeed a show I look forward to every week. But this harebrained idea serves as yet another reminder that the imaginations of white men can be incredibly myopic. On their idea for the series, Benioff and Weiss said: “We have discussed Confederate for years, originally as a concept for a feature film. But our experience on Thrones has convinced us that no one provides a bigger, better storytelling canvas than HBO. There won’t be dragons or White Walkers in this series, but we are creating a world, and we couldn’t imagine better partners in world-building than Nichelle and Malcolm, who have impressed us for a long time with their wit, their imagination and their Scrabble-playing skills.”

There have been several successful and insightful movies/shows based on the premise, "What if the other side won?"

I'm surprised...well maybe notsomuch, that people are losing their shit over this.

though.

the likelihood of fcuking this up are soo high for D&D.



>There have been several successful and insightful
>movies/shows based on the premise, "What if the other side
>won?"
>
>I'm surprised...well maybe notsomuch, that people are losing
>their shit over this.
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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

of Ice and Fire.

The NAZI'S loved this mythology so much they based their nationalism on it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welteislehre

Shut down reconstruction

Jim Crow etc

Brought over Nazi war criminals and gave them high government positions

Confederate flag still flying and in Military facilities at that

Trump

maybe they should do a series where they actually LOST

the writer (who is white) wrote about an alternate history where the Civil War never happened and slavery is still legal in a few states. sounded kinda interesting. no idea if it's related to this HBO thing or not.

http://www.npr.org/2016/07/07/485101495/underground-airlines-is-an-extraordinary-work-of-alternate-history

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIqxBn1oLAY

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

hemmed in by it's budget and spike-ness

it's still worthwhile, maybe not for us, but there were definitely people who went from watching chapelle's show to that a decade ago and learned some things.

And this shit here? Nigga, please.
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...this would have to be a BlackFace production.

if anything they'll have black actors chomping at the bit since it's HBO and D&D.

https://twitter.com/desusandmero/status/888235863045361664

3rd civil war...what about the 2nd?
steph curry gonna be in the house

like oh it's funny but it's true fuckkkkk

wtf?

make one where Haiti is the greatest most powerful nation in the West. then what?

fuck this shit.

and fuck GoT and that fool RR Dungeons or whomever the fuck he is. fat fuck.
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It's like they was up reading this post before the segment.


>https://twitter.com/desusandmero/status/888235863045361664


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"