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13236691, I feel like u're giving them too many excuses for biting off more than
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Fri Feb-23-18 08:19 AM
they could chew with this subject matter.
They never should have tried to take it on.

>>At the very root, the Black American with a tie to
>>descendants of slaves is the enemy here, definitely, while
>the
>>Africans are the good guys.
>
>Huge oversimplification and the movie does a good job of
>showing how extreme both were...his dad LITERALLY KILLED his
>brother and refused to save him...They can't do the mental
>work for the audience...they can't...they didn't even offer a
>solution bc "Solution's hard"...the resolution was "let's be
>less extreme" lol



Who's the hero in the movie?
What is the movie called?
This is very simple.


>>That in itself is something our
>>system keeps telling us over and over. I talked about this
>on
>>the boards before tho. Black Americans have a justice claim
>>and are more likely to fight for that "being difficult" to
>>white folks. As descendants of slaves, we don't understand
>>how much we're falling behind when we are the ones who
>>experienced the injustice that Affirmative Action was an
>>attempt to start correcting. Too many Africans accept those
>>benefits while calling us names and kissing up to white
>folks
>>while neither understanding our plight nor fighting for our
>>cause.
>
>That's not entirely their fault...they've got their own issues
>with white people to work out and while i don't appreciate
>that sentiment...it has little to no impact on day to day life
>any more than any other random micro-aggression. It's also a
>pretty big generalization I'd make with much more room for
>potentially being off-base




My concern isn't whose fault it is. My concern is how it affects us as Black Americans, and that is not something with no impact akin to random micro-aggression.



>We don't know that he doesn't know that...in fact...he simply
>doesn't care...his plans aren't thought out...he's not a proxy
>for rational revolutionists...he's an extremist hellbent on
>vengeance...Wakanda is portrayed as passively extreme in their
>isolationism...Being the lesser of 2 evils is just that...



Oh really? Here:
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5a7b6fa41e0000dc007ab05d.jpeg
Nope, no resemblance to rational revolutionists.
That's what I'm saying. This movie does not exist in a vacuum. Like I said elsewhere, the FBI's recent "Black Identity Extremist" report talks about anyone seeking Black empowerment being a potential violent threat to law enforcement. The one guy talking about empowering Black people just happens to be a "killmonger" in the film. He didn't *have* to be talking Black empowerment. They could have taken that many different ways. This stuff isn't as disconnected as you think it is, man.

I think a lot of what you're saying here is just defending his character from the standpoint of the story line, while I'm saying the story line was created for the purpose of the symbolism, and it's not coincidence, so I'll skip ahead....



>this is literally
>chapter one and you want it done in a way that would be the
>last chapter...nah they still have to come together well
>enough to get stomped by Thanos...this is a comic book and
>should inspire thought...not be looked at to present
>non-flawed dogma


Sure, it could be fixed if Black Panther realized Killmonger had the right about about empowering us globally and then took out the CIA, lol, but I doubt that happens. Also I'm not looking for "non-flawed dogma." I'm looking for them avoid disrespecting us with subject matter like this that they can't handle. There's no real reason that the killmonger character had to be written that way.