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Topic subject | Burning White Sands: The Penn State Beta Theta pledge death |
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13155015, Burning White Sands: The Penn State Beta Theta pledge death Posted by legsdiamond, Thu May-11-17 08:13 AM
They have this shit on TAPE.
18 guys facing murder charges. I never understood the "beat them until they almost die gang initiation" of Greek Life.
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/penn-state-frat-cameras-unquestionably-become-important-evidence-174617093--abc-news-topstories.html
The state-of-the-art surveillance cameras at Pennsylvania State University's Beta Theta Pi fraternity house that captured much of what happened to pledge Timothy Piazza before he died will "unquestionably ... become important evidence" in the cases against fraternity members charged in connection with Piazza's death, said ABC News Chief Legal Analyst Dan Abrams.
Piazza, a 19-year-old sophomore and pledge at Penn State's Beta Theta Pi fraternity, died on Feb. 4, after he fell down the stairs during a pledge ceremony at the house on the night of Feb. 2. Fraternity members did not call 911 until the morning of Feb. 3, about 12 hours after Piazza's fall, according to a report on the grand jury's investigation. Piazza's death "was the direct result of traumatic brain injuries," according to the forensic pathologist.
The eight or nine full-color and full-broadcast-quality cameras at Beta Theta Pi showed that Piazza’s skin had turned gray by the morning of the 911 call, Centre County District Attorney Stacy Parks Miller told ABC News. The color change was especially noticeable in the final 40 minutes before the 911 call -- the time period prosecutors call the "cover-up" -- during which the students allegedly wanted to make Piazza appear healthier than he was by trying to dress him in clean clothes, Parks Miller said...
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13155016, yeah, from the outside looking in, it's a mess. Posted by Shogun, Thu May-11-17 08:20 AM
I have close friends who pledged, and we never talk about it. I don't ask, because I know they'd never tell me what they went through.
But there's that random conversation. One of my friends told me if he had to do it all over again, he wouldn't have done it. He says it was "a complete waste of time". He's in good standing with his frat bros, and does stuff in the name of his frat, but he never wears his letters.
Another dude on his line came by the crib to visit us after they crossed, and looked me dead in the eye and told me "don't ever do it".
I knew right then that it wasn't my thing.
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13155048, White boy pledging is completely different. Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Thu May-11-17 09:09 AM
Namely because their processes often involves alcohol.
>They have this shit on TAPE. > >18 guys facing murder charges. I never understood the "beat >them until they almost die gang initiation" of Greek Life. > >https://www.yahoo.com/gma/penn-state-frat-cameras-unquestionably-become-important-evidence-174617093--abc-news-topstories.html > >The state-of-the-art surveillance cameras at Pennsylvania >State University's Beta Theta Pi fraternity house that >captured much of what happened to pledge Timothy Piazza before >he died will "unquestionably ... become important evidence" in >the cases against fraternity members charged in connection >with Piazza's death, said ABC News Chief Legal Analyst Dan >Abrams. > >Piazza, a 19-year-old sophomore and pledge at Penn State's >Beta Theta Pi fraternity, died on Feb. 4, after he fell down >the stairs during a pledge ceremony at the house on the night >of Feb. 2. Fraternity members did not call 911 until the >morning of Feb. 3, about 12 hours after Piazza's fall, >according to a report on the grand jury's investigation. >Piazza's death "was the direct result of traumatic brain >injuries," according to the forensic pathologist. > >The eight or nine full-color and full-broadcast-quality >cameras at Beta Theta Pi showed that Piazza’s skin had >turned gray by the morning of the 911 call, Centre County >District Attorney Stacy Parks Miller told ABC News. The color >change was especially noticeable in the final 40 minutes >before the 911 call -- the time period prosecutors call the >"cover-up" -- during which the students allegedly wanted to >make Piazza appear healthier than he was by trying to dress >him in clean clothes, Parks Miller said... > >
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
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13155062, different, but just as shitty. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Thu May-11-17 09:27 AM
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13155068, Word? You had a shitty process? Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Thu May-11-17 09:35 AM
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
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13155226, naw idfw the greek shit Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Thu May-11-17 01:39 PM
but everybody i know in black and white frats both said the process really wasnt worth it.
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13155065, completely different is a stretch Posted by legsdiamond, Thu May-11-17 09:31 AM
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13155263, uhhhhh Posted by Rjcc, Thu May-11-17 02:42 PM
www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
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13155269, Agreed. We prefer to kill our pledges with mallets and drum sticks Posted by Innocent Criminal, Thu May-11-17 02:46 PM
Booze is so John Belushi.
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13155381, is booze not a part of the process in black frats? Posted by GOMEZ, Thu May-11-17 09:08 PM
Or do just mean drinking to the point of death or having to do embarrassing press conferences about buttchugging?
I never had booze as a distinguishing factor between the two frat cultures in my mind but I steered clear of frats in general so I'm hella ignorant on the subject.
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13155418, Not sure why he typed that but I doubt he returns to defend it Posted by legsdiamond, Fri May-12-17 05:37 AM
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13155448, lol Posted by Dstl1, Fri May-12-17 07:51 AM
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13155066, It is theorized these traditions come from the origins Posted by Musa, Thu May-11-17 09:33 AM
of a certain people.
They were graphed in what is currently known as Egypt and deported across the burning sands to the mountains of Europe.
but that is a tangent.
I never got frats or taking abuse to be down with someone.
Yall can have that.
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13155107, Say it again. Posted by Shogun, Thu May-11-17 10:45 AM
>I never got frats or taking abuse to be down with someone. > >Yall can have that.
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13155108, oh acceptance - hallowed be thy name Posted by willi_dudat, Thu May-11-17 10:46 AM
> >I never got frats or taking abuse to be down with someone. > >Yall can have that.
RIP to Piazza tho - heen deserve to go out like that
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13155157, Whereas when Freemasonry is concerned.... Posted by The3rdOne, Thu May-11-17 11:52 AM
They crossed the burning sands riding a camel, because the process is supposed to be of an elevated status....or so they say.
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13155228, A friend of mine is a mason Posted by legsdiamond, Thu May-11-17 01:41 PM
he said he wouldn't want to do what he had to do again...
but never said what it was.
I'm like dead babies? kill a goat? fuck a dude?
TELL ME!! lol
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13155256, A friend of mine is a mason, and he never tells me anything Posted by flipnile, Thu May-11-17 02:22 PM
It's like some fight club shit I guess. I know he's a mason, and that's all the info I have.
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13155467, The frats are the offspring of Free Masonry Posted by Musa, Fri May-12-17 08:36 AM
so that could be the origin.
I mean these people have rooms dedicated to the legacy of ancient African civilizations.
They dress up in ancient African garb.
The "Greeks" were literally founded by the KMT and the basis for most of their "science and mathematics" is literally Elvis Pressleyed from KMT.
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13155101, Geez, this reminds me so much of what went down at my school... Posted by Dstl1, Thu May-11-17 10:32 AM
back in the day. Some good friends of mine were involved. A dude died. Except, there were no cameras, no camera phones, nothing. Shit was huge, one of my homies was on Oprah, behind it. All in the name of "pledging". Gives me a sick feeling all over again.
http://www.nytimes.com/1994/02/20/us/fatal-beating-fuels-concern-about-hazing-on-campuses.html
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13155105, They suspended the KAPPA line at IUP when my boy was pledging Posted by legsdiamond, Thu May-11-17 10:43 AM
He ended up crossing over at a later time but I find the whole thing dumb as hell.
Those connections must be the shit.
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13155113, I remember my roommate pledged... I used to look at him like O_o Posted by flipnile, Thu May-11-17 10:50 AM
Mofos stopping by the room at like 12am talking about "let's go."
Nah, yo. I could never get past the "submit" part. I ain't submitting to any of my peers. I player college ball tho, so (as folks have pointed out to me) I kinda already had my own frat, so it was easy for me to lol @ greek life.
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13155158, or when cats come to your crib to hide out. Posted by Shogun, Thu May-11-17 11:53 AM
>Mofos stopping by the room at like 12am talking about "let's >go." >
We lived off the beaten path, so whenever people were pledging, they sometimes hid out at our crib. All sweaty and worn down and shit.
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