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Topic subjectChadwick must be stopped.
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13110569, Chadwick must be stopped.
Posted by lightworks, Tue Jan-03-17 10:35 AM
James Brown then Jackie now Thurgood?

Hell nah nigga 😂

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13110573, wtf... cmon, they couldn't find anyone else for this?
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Jan-03-17 10:44 AM
13110627, reminiscent of saldana playing nina
Posted by Crash Bandacoot, Tue Jan-03-17 12:15 PM
but this is the reversal...haha. trying to force the issue cause he's apart of the
in-crowd.
13110630, I wonder if he's gonna catch the same flack Saldana did...
Posted by Creole, Tue Jan-03-17 12:22 PM
NGCCOT!

They could have gotten Laz to play that part or some other high yella cat with curly/wavy hair.
13110636, except thurgood's appearance wasn't a part of his story
Posted by Bluebear, Tue Jan-03-17 12:27 PM
in the way that Nina's was.
13110640, You don't think so? Are you sure his acceptance wasn't due...
Posted by Creole, Tue Jan-03-17 12:37 PM
RE: except thurgood's appearance wasn't a part of his story

, partially, to his fairer skin? During that time, his appearance would have been tremendously beneficial to him since lighter shaded Black people were more highly thought. It's unfortunate but true. So, should his story not be told as authentically as Nina's was?
13110642, A central part of Nina's story
Posted by Bluebear, Tue Jan-03-17 12:45 PM
was the difficulty she had in getting work because she did not fit certain beauty standards. The Saldana pick was lemon in the wound because they chose someone who does (and benefits from it) to play that part. Essentially, the highlighted that Hollywood hasn't changed that much from Nina's time. It's easier for actresses who look like Zoe Saldana to get work than those who look like Nina Simone.

Nothing like that appears in the Marshall story. Was it arguably easier for him because of his complexion? maybe. But it wasn't explicit like it was for Nina. And it wasn't a necessary or important part of his story (his contemporaries were civil rights activists and attorneys some of whom were darker).
13110650, RE: A central part of Nina's story
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Tue Jan-03-17 12:59 PM
You're 100% right about Nina's story,
but Creole's point about Marshall's
fair skin is also very valid.
He represented the NAACP who has a
long history of choosing light faces.
In his day, you were most definitely
thought more highly of solely due
to being light, so the depiction of
him as a darker skinned guy, alone,
is revisionist history on many levels.
13110679, His complexion is certainly a part of his story...
Posted by Creole, Tue Jan-03-17 01:39 PM
>Nothing like that appears in the Marshall story. Was it
>arguably easier for him because of his complexion? maybe. But
>it wasn't explicit like it was for Nina. And it wasn't a
>necessary or important part of his story (his contemporaries
>were civil rights activists and attorneys some of whom were
>darker).

Does it have to be explicitly stated to be a part of someone's story? The way Black folks were treated then is no different from today. Nobody is saying outright that you're better because you're lighter than them. No one is gonna say that you're being chosen because you're lighter than the rest of the options or that the texture of your hair makes you better or more attractive/appealing. And since they won't explicitly state so, it's a nuance that is central to our very being and which should be evident in the story of Mr. Marshall even if it is only implied.

Otherwise, folks shit on Saldana for no reason at all before even giving her performance a shot to tell the story.

Edit: He was chosen to be the face of Brown vs Board of Ed for a reason. That case was consolidated with others but, for some reason, he was chosen by the NAACP to be the face of it all. And he's the one we always hear of as being behind the victory without there being mention of the folks who were attached to the case. From what I KNOW and have seen, these folks ain't necessarily light skinned.

http://www.civilrights.org/education/brown/briggs.html
13110731, not in the same way
Posted by Bluebear, Tue Jan-03-17 02:58 PM
Saldana's casting reinforces everything that was believed and said about Nina's appearance during that time, does the casting here have the same effect?
13110743, Inaccuracy is inaccuracy...
Posted by Creole, Tue Jan-03-17 03:27 PM
I understand what you're saying. Let's just not negate the significance color plays or has played. Fair representation across the board

Folks bemoaned a brown-skinned Saldana for playing a darker brown-skinned legend. They did it before allowing the acting to tell the tale. That shouldn't matter if the story was most important. If accuracy was the most important, Chadwick nor Saldana should have been cast in their respective roles.

We'll see how it pans out though. I'll, more than likely, not see the film either since I am not a fan of his work just like I am not a fan of Saldana's.
13110754, I think my point was, it wasn't just about accuracy
Posted by Bluebear, Tue Jan-03-17 03:36 PM
with Saldana. It's not like folks were complaining because she was too tall or too short to play the part. It was the fact that they were inaccurate in a way that seems to reinforce everything Nina Simone fought against that matters.
13110756, Gotcha...
Posted by Creole, Tue Jan-03-17 03:38 PM
13110820, RE: You don't think so? Are you sure his acceptance wasn't due...
Posted by murph71, Tue Jan-03-17 05:32 PM


No...not at all.....
13110661, Why do black people have a problem with blacks portraying blacks?
Posted by Case_One, Tue Jan-03-17 01:11 PM
Are we the only people that do this nonsense?


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13110953, The issue is colorism, not with "blacks playing blacks"
Posted by flipnile, Wed Jan-04-17 09:54 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_based_on_skin_color


Portraying darker-skinned black figures as light-skinned, mulatto or even white is another tactic used to keep the "blacks never do accomplish anything" theme running.
13110672, It was probably down to him or Terence Howard. LOL.
Posted by Castro, Tue Jan-03-17 01:34 PM
I would have picked Chad too.





13110677, what is the quality of your INTENT, mayne?
Posted by infin8, Tue Jan-03-17 01:39 PM
(c) Terence Howard as Thurgood Marshall
13110683, LMBAO. In the court room pointing with a toothpick.
Posted by Castro, Tue Jan-03-17 01:45 PM
13110686, with a missing and/or gold tooth
Posted by infin8, Tue Jan-03-17 01:50 PM
"..y'know SOMETIMES...history takes things into it's own HANDS, mayne."
13110680, It was probably down to him or Terence J. LOL.
Posted by infin8, Tue Jan-03-17 01:39 PM
13110706, It was probably down to him or Terry Crews
Posted by KiloMcG, Tue Jan-03-17 02:21 PM
13110688, Name people who would have been a shoe-in for the role here:
Posted by double negative, Tue Jan-03-17 02:00 PM
13110689, Roger Guenveur Smith
Posted by double negative, Tue Jan-03-17 02:01 PM
13110690, Jeffrey Wright
Posted by double negative, Tue Jan-03-17 02:02 PM
13110696, Maybe he had another project in the works.
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13110715, Could Michael Ealy carry this flick?
Posted by Overqualified, Tue Jan-03-17 02:28 PM
13110716, Nah
Posted by Case_One, Tue Jan-03-17 02:32 PM

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13110747, Andre Holland w/bleach
Posted by ambient1, Tue Jan-03-17 03:32 PM
...or Kevin Carroll aka kermitthefrog
13110751, Hell Jussie is playing Langston Hughes in this flick
Posted by lightworks, Tue Jan-03-17 03:36 PM
I would pick him over Chadwick.
13110738, who is he sleeping with???
Posted by bonamie, Tue Jan-03-17 03:11 PM
becuz...WOW!
13110749, ninja lookin like No Good Marshall
Posted by Dstl1, Tue Jan-03-17 03:34 PM
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13110783, He's Hollywood's black "it' guy right now.
Posted by Airbreed, Tue Jan-03-17 04:15 PM
Not surprised. And he just might pull it off.
13110875, this dude cant do shit besides biopics?
Posted by jswerve386, Tue Jan-03-17 09:28 PM
come on bruh.. dont pigeonhole yourself.
13110884, ahem
Posted by CaptNish, Tue Jan-03-17 10:52 PM
http://media.comicbook.com/2016/05/blackpanther-civilwar-181157.png
13110948, Also...
Posted by Boogie Stimuli, Wed Jan-04-17 09:44 AM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gPZHvXhz-Ww/maxresdefault.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7c/Message_from_the_King_poster.jpg