you feel?

>Are you in his family?
>
>Otherwise, you can't claim to know any of this about him.

Cool. I didn't make that claim though.

In fact you quoted me so I don't understand the point being made .

>>Treatment requires a willing participant, namely someone who
>>accepts the diagnosis as something more than a laminated
>card
>>to flash when they're being an asshole. It also requires
>>accountability from those around him, not a bunch of yes men
>>eager to remain in his good graces and enabling fans touting
>>all of his antics as genius, next level art.

^^^this isn't saying that I know he is or isn't any of the above. I'm responding directly and specifically to your comment. I do think a decade and a half of his antics does present some evidence that he's pretty resistant to personal accountability, but I've never claimed to know anything intimately. In fact, later in this very thread I said that anytime we talk about celebrities like this, it's purely speculative.

So again... not sure you're reacting to my actual words or to how it makes you feel.

>>Who knows if Ye is really mentally ill or if he'll accept a
>>diagnosis or if he'd be a willing participant in his own
>>treatment. I don't and neither do you, but it's clear that
>if
>>the answer was "no" to all of the above, people would react
>>negatively to it and you'd be there to make excuses for him.
>

>I don't make excuses for anyone, so that's not "clear". Again,
>mental illness isn't an excuse. In your weird quest to make
>sure Kanye doesn't get any sympathy or grace from the public,

lol what? My quest to make sure he doesn't get sympathy? Please elaborate on that and show your work. We're having a discussion from different points of view but nothing I've said can be remotely construed as "trying to make sure he doesn't get sympathy from the public.".

>you are making statements about people w/ mental illness in
>general that are harmful (asshole, brat, etc). That's all I
>care to comment on. I won't comment any further.

No, I'm making statements about KANYE WEST regarding a ridiculously long stream of documented words and actions and, unlike you, I am not diagnosing him as anything more than what his actions portray.

You seem to consider yourself a mental health professional who can diagnose people from afar. I don't.