>4) the big issue is not whether trump has bad ideas, but in
>the dems establishing their better ideas:

You know what - fuck it - if they/you haven't seen the that the policies put forth at the Democratic Nation Convention *are better* than at the RNC then there is no convincing them/you.

Every campaign in the past was trying to SCARE you into thinking that if you vote for the "OTHER GUY" amounts to an immediate and horrific outcome. I get it.

BUT THIS TIME IT'S FUCKING TRUE.

So fuck them - and let's not welcome them back. Green party needs more folks.