I'm at a bar with it on mute.
What they sayin?

If Black Thought was shown on a NBA playoff would anybody know him?

.

pretty sure he's being sarcastic when saying e40 is irrelvant

How is E-40 better than black thought?

Let's start with your favorite Black Thought lyric.
What is it?

If this was a Snoop Dogg request I'd say:

1. Gin n Juice
2. Aint No Fun
3. Fuck the other niggas cause I'm down for my niggas
4. Murder Was the Case
5. Sensual Seduction

Jay-Z has his Top 5 list
Kanye has his Top 5
Biggie Got his
Nas got his
ATCQ got theirs

to be considered "great" you need a body of work to substantiate your claims

i'll just say this.

Black Thought is part of a group, unlike all of the others you mentioned. in the context of a group, The Roots, BT is the shit and a major part of their greatness. are you saying that The Roots, as a group, don't have at least 5 great songs? they're how many albums deep now?

again, i'm not arguing your BT vs. E40 debate, because it's just silly and definitely an interesting shtick you've developed and champion.

We are talking greatest RAPPERS
not greatest rap BANDS of all time which The Roots is the best because not only because they are the only one but they are actually good.


Again, when ppl speak of great RAPPERS they go by lyrics, content and flow.
What do the tuba player, trumpet player or Thames Poyser have to do with tariqs lyrics?

E40 got BARS and HITS

And you're telling me the roots got MAJOR hits and only ones I can think of is Badu and Do You want more.

Roots as a band collectively is pretty good.
Can't doubt that.

But to say TARIQ is a better rapper than Earl Stevens from the hillside is INSANE.
Tariq don't have the body of work E40 do.
Nothing memorable.
Nothing game changing.
Be honest, if Ahmir died in 1997 what would Tariq and the rest of them be doing?
Bagging groceries at Aldi

And this whole thing started when OKP constantly shat on fourty water.
I couldn't allow that shit to happen.
And to expose the truth is to show that Tariq as a rapper ain't the main attraction on his squad.
That afro and afro pick is what pays their bills

Just be honest.

It just is what it is.
Not a schtick.
I tell truths.

And to sit here and allow ppl to throw E40 behind Tariq as a rapper would be unpatrioticunpatriotic.
I'm just doing my job as a red blooded American.

I also think it's funny how nobody HAS YET listed Tariq Top 5 tracks.

I'm not saying Tariq garbage I'm just saying E40 better.

(as far as their stanery goes, not making implications on them overall as posters or people)

I agree with maxxx
I agree with Sev too but not so much.
Drake is kinda weak but that Jew makes BANGERS
His singing is so so but he can rap

>Black Thought is part of a group, unlike all of the others you
>mentioned. in the context of a group, The Roots, BT is the
>shit and a major part of their greatness. are you saying that
>The Roots, as a group, don't have at least 5 great songs?
>they're how many albums deep now?
>


Would The Roots exist without Dice Raw?
The nigga who beat box?
Rahzel!!!! His name had slipped me for a moment.
Truck North?
The tuba guy?
Tuba Gooding Jr
Dude on bass?
Captn Kirk

All replaceable

Black thought could be replaced by MF Doom and I'm not sure anyone would notice.

But try to take big man off the skins and you got a problem.
That's just the way boy bands operate.
You have a figurehead and then you got extras.
Hell destiny child was a great group but Kelly and Michelle them knew they wasn't eating without ms knowles.

Top 5 (relatively recent) Black Thought tracks

>1. 75 bars
>2. Clock with no hands
>3. Super Lyrical with Big Pun
>4. His verse on Dear God 2.0
>5. His verse on How I Got Over

This is my recent list since both emcees still release music.

>to be considered "great" you need a body of work to
>substantiate your claims

It's so many bars across so many albums that stand the test of time. Black Thought's work is timeless. For me legends greatness are measured by the legacy that stands today. I can hear Black Thought in Wale especially on his first album. E-40 is a legend but I can't find any emcees outside of his region that emulate him to this day. I could be wrong but I don't see it.

I'll put these 75 bars against anyone in hip-hop history:

http://genius.com/The-roots-75-bars-blacks-reconstruction-lyrics

Nm

The zips be so fluffy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G_9RPyF6nE

https://scontent.fhou1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13321875_10153568438737050_3326838000917187884_n.jpg?oh=f225670a9662f80f6add02c5296fe7a3&oe=580D0E59

And unlike others (Drake, Usher, Jay Z) Earl was BORN and BRED into it, not bought.

I think 40's involvement with the Dubs is as authentic as Wiz when the Steelers was gettin there shine that year Black and Yellow dropped.
It's just organic.

Dude did the opening for the Sharks last week. Here he is in Kings gear. It's regional.

https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13315436_10154878481549377_5868903695321652114_n.jpg?oh=a7dea9816a5c21193365c4d15972f2e6&oe=57C7B77F

and he has the commerical with Draymond and BeatsByDre that will be playing throughout the Finals.

Would The Roots go gold without Questlove?
NOPE!
Would The Roots still get shows and be on late night without Black Thought?
YEP!
Would The Roots still get shows and be on late night without Questlove?
NOPE!


I just don't like the utter disrespect 40 gets around here.
He ain't pissed on no kids.
He ain't beat no women.
He ain't dated no white girls.
40 gets MAAAAAD love from Marshawn Lynch
REAL NIGGAS
TOWN NIGGAS give Earl Stevens love

this nigga been puttin out HITS since before Todd Shaw came out rappin bout betty givin blowjobs.

And again, if you search all most posts on this topic no one has come and given a list of credible BT bangers.

But let annnnny other artist be debated and you get LISTS ON LISTS ON LISTS
check the george clinton vs quincy jones post....LISTS
check the kanye TLOP post....niggas break out college dropout, 808s and all his other shit
drake?
they go back to so far gone

jay-z?
cmon yo!

in the movie Top 5 chris rock shouted out The Roots in his Top 5
but why?
yeah they brought live instruments to the game
but what about LYRICS???

every other PERSON in the Top 5 had LYRICS
it's cool that you teach a History of Hip Hop online course at Bowdoin and you're the hip hop somollier at 1Oak/Momofuku
but do your shit BANG???

anyhow, Top 5 shouldn't consist of only CHEESE TOAST rappers
didn't snoop already kick over enough of yall buildings?

U asked "Why are they showing e40?"

He did a Warriors remix for "choices" and he performed it during last year's Finals. He got another song is also ft in the Beats ad w/ Draymond. Lil B was at game 7 too. Idk why ur bringing up Black Thought...

Current #1 franchise and NBA market...

>U asked "Why are they showing e40?"
>
>He did a Warriors remix for "choices" and he performed it
>during last year's Finals. He got another song is also ft in
>the Beats ad w/ Draymond. Lil B was at game 7 too. Idk why ur
>bringing up Black Thought...
>
>Current #1 franchise and NBA market...


This is a SHIT TALKING POST
i know why the fuck they feastured Earl
BECAUSE HE FUCKIN SAVICIOUS
SCHMELL ME MANE?!

And just like The Warriors,
Everybody got choices
but they decided to go with that man and give him his bread
Everybody got choices
now go back and pay attn to what i said

I bring up Black Thought because okp shits HARD on e40 talkin bout he wack he this he that
and im like FUCK YALL e40 got more hits, been doin shit longer and has had WAAAY more impact on this rap shit than Black Thought

when i say that everybody get quiet
cause they know it's true
Tariq is a battle rapper that got lucky and teamed up with a PHENOMINAL drummer and has just been being pulled along for the ride
it's ok
shit happens
klay thompson aint winning no chips by himself
he needed to ride curry's coattails

everybody say Black Thought better but nobody don't have no BT rhymes memorized

it's just east coast bias, man

they say BT is better because Gwenyth Paltrow was in his townhouse Febreezing his couch and snapchatting it


I put Black Thought and Talib Kweli in the same boat
they never change their style or content up
always rappin about God Body shit
Watchin mommy body rockin’
vodka shots then
she eat my johnny cochran
then i put my top in

that kinda rhyme style

Your post is an eleven on the stupid scale of one to ten.

>Your post is an eleven on the reactionary scale of one to ten.


or one of my many other 300 posts on the same damn topic?

jesus christ, cold truth. you just want to start fights.
go back and read just ONE of my replies in here.
just one.

Sometimes I read through a thread.
Other times I just reply to the OP.

I'm not searching your screen name trying to find out if you're being sarcastic or not.

That said, the post is an equally seven shades of stupid whether you're talking about Fonzerali or Black Thought.

I'm not trying to start a fight with you but YO... there's absolutely nothing constructive to add to such a clusterfuck of a post.

Hence.... this shit is stupid. Nothing personal, it's just a statement of inarguable fact.

Got that IPO poppin yet?

I love how folks come in a post just to shit on it
But you clikedittho

No worries my dude, you're neither the first nor last guy with a shitty post who resorted to personal cheap shots because he couldn't defend his dumbass post.

Smooches.

>If Black Thought was shown on a NBA playoff would anybody know
>him?

Do everytime they show E40 do they show B-Legit or Suga T?

Again, no Ahmir, BT wouldn't be anywhere near a TV program.

so THE ROOTS did that
not Tariq Trotter
They could have put Mad Skillz in BT place and no one would have been the wiser

rap GROUPS usually aren't judged individual rappers
is "BDP" a Top 5 rapper?
Or is KRS a Top 5 rapper?

So Mad Lion is a Top 5 MC since he's down with BDP, right?

I'm tired of this Cheese Toast bias

Black Thought is 1,000x better than E-40 as an MC.

E-40 isn't even in the same stratosphere as Thought.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&persist_app=1&v=vlwlOkBidys