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13026185, RE: Votes are not talking points
Posted by Mr. ManC, Tue May-24-16 07:19 PM
Votes are not talking points. But to gloat about a 3 million vote lead is like saying you have more money than me but only letting me count my money iny checking and not my savings.

>You are seriously stating that you believe that 3 MILLION
>votes out of 20 million were STOLEN by the machinations of the
>EVIL DNC to benefit Hillary. FOH!
>
>Just prove that shit is out of the "normal" election fucked up
>process that's always there and I'm with you. (Unless you can
>to point to an exact perfect election occurring at some point
>in the past.) Hell prove 1 million stolen votes and I'm with
>you.
>
>(I will concede that voting is fucked up in every state - but
>we're stuck with states doing it themselves - and the primary
>vs caucuses schedule si pretty stupid too. I'd support a
>winner take all by popular vote by state apportioned by
>population over the current system.)

How are you so sure that there aren't? I don't want to take a position of viewing an absense of evidence as absence, but there is no way to PROVE this when its been concealed. New York was the craziest shit I've seen in my life. Sure 3 million Independents were out already, but seeing polling places closed during morning hours, upstate being closed by 6 hours, and basically pushing out potential Bernie supporters. Now there are untold provisional and affadavit ballots in NY alone which were NEVER counted. Not only that but they won't even release the number of ballots that are uncounted. But don't worry, a Clinton delegate is doing an audit to make sure nothing out of pocket happened. This has been the case across the country.

>Hey MORON - if you want to vote in a political party
>nomination then JOIN THE FUCKING PARTY. Bernie did - in 2015.
>
>
>Bernie's NOT really a Democrat - he's an independent who
>switch affiliations to gain the money and attention being a
>nominee for the Democratic Party gives him. It was a pure
>power move. And with those advantages cam a system that he
>could have planned for - getting his supporters to switch
>affiliations seemed like a very logical thing to do.
>
>Alternatively in some states you can vote in the Democratic
>elections if you are not affiliated with a party and request
>the Democratic ballot. (California works like this.)

No, not a moron. However since Hillary is running for President of THE UNITED STATES and not of the Democratic Party all votes should be accounted for so that you can have an accruate projection of how a candidate can do with the American population.

>Poor baby. He had a tough battle and he lost.
>
>
All Bernie has the power to do right now is fuck things up.
>And you babies are too polarized. You'll end up being a Rand
>Paul supporter soon.

No it's not a matter of being beholden to a PERSON. It's about the platform. I'd rather throw my energy behind a progressive Congress and then gear up for midterms and 2020. What is so bad is that Hillary will usually say anything to poll well. Meanwhile all she has to do is make "slight" concessions for the electorate (since their platform is only 1% off to you) and yet she refuses. That tells me everything I need to know about her.

>Yeah - Bernie lost to Hillary so we're taking our votes and
>going home and then we'll show you. Fuck you and when you come
>begging to do it our way we'll say no, and keep saying fuck
>you!!.
>
>Trump had a harder climb - and he did. The crazy racists lying
>fuck won - why couldn't your revolutionary leader?
>

Trump is the nominee of a party full of climate denying birthers and racists. Unfortunately the Democratic Party is not full of progressives. And yet, he still has 45% of a party he has only been a part of for a year, and still carries about 70% of Independents. We will see how June 7th goes though.