I'm sure this interview made a couple people pretty uncomfortable

Does not NOT act a lil like Tom Cruise did on Oprah's couch back when


http://www.stereogum.com/1877995/watch-kanye-wests-intense-passionate-ellen-interview/video/?utm_source=sc-fb&utm_medium=ref&utm_campaign

please explain

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he needs to be committed

2, he has a very juvenile affect that is just straight up not likable. he could be as right as he want to, but it will never matter because ironically he can't deliver his thoughts in a way that is palatable or compelling. if he weren't such an egomaniac he could benefit from some speech and debate type coaching so he could get his logics, arguments and delivery together, it could make a big difference for him

And I like Kanye

Unlike i.e. Pharrell who's always very eloquent and well articulated, Ye just blabbers and is O.D. and doesn't really sound «smart» enough to have that effect.

What he is tho, is genuine. And thats a redeeming quality to a certain extent, but its not enough and he really comes off a little..... Short. At times. Even though he definitely isn't

rather than have a word salad I'm just short with it.

The visual I got from this shit....

LMFAO!

Good shit Bruh!

You'll notice a couple of times here where he
kept speaking, but he hadn't actually
had another thought yet. This is why he rambles
and says so much cringe-worthy shit.

*ducks*

Contrary to Sway, you actually have the answers (c)

to me it's pretty clear he's enamored with it conceptually and is using it as a descriptive device to proclaim how uniquely "visionary" his art is, but were he to actually experience synesthesia, I'm confident it would have long been a documented part of his story by now

1999-2001 timeframe for a couple school projects (1 high school, the other college)

I was fascinated because I had/have it (much weaker now than when I as younger, which is normal)

Anyway, its widely suspected by people who study synaesthesia that it's way more common than reported.

Kanye could have it in some form, but then again it would be like Kanye to just claim some stuff like that without actually having it lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJvdydts5pM

https://vimeo.com/16162038
http://www.vibe.com/2014/02/throwback-footage-kanye-west-rap-city-2004/

Ugh.

I know a dude who does that and it's insufferable.

when are we going to stop attributing proper speech to white people? as if they are the standard bearers for language?

ugh.

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I agree with you on your general point, but here Kanye is manipulating his voice for the whitiest of white audiences (daytime television). Not the same thing. He is extra nasally. When Kanye speaks, you can hear his fuckin jaw in his voice almost like he from the South. Not this nasally shit. I'm surprised more people aren't talking about this, cuz this was the first thing that irked me from this video.

when I was in middle school. The look on peoples faces when I stated being educated and speaking well aren't traits specific to white folks -- dead silence. That was a real turning point in my life,

he can talk forever about nothing when asked how is he doing. But when he is asked about his kids he has nothing to say.

another target for scrutiny?


"Get ready....for your blessing....."

I mean damn his family is on a fucking reality show but you wont answer questions about them but you still allow interviewers to ask that question? That makes a whole lot of sense.

one of the most open cats in the public eye right now.

Could he be more effective by choosing a different tact? Yes..yes indeed.



"Get ready....for your blessing....."

its calculated IMO.

and yeah, he code switches. ionno why people trip, most of us do it at the gig.


I'm ober this Ye is crazy shit tho... dude is far from crazy.

i really want to see his ideas come to fruition

if i had 53 mil lying around, i'd call him up

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Hated that white voice but I think he eventually dropped it (or I got use to it).

Dude seems to have a bit of a messiah complex.

But I dug that he made folks uncomfortable and spoke from the heart.

It just seems to me is that dude just isn't that well informed. Like dude seems to have no reframe of reference beyond pop culture.

I just wish I could give that a reading list.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

and i make an effort to ususally NOT pay attention to Kanye

I remember watching his earlier performances
like "the food" on chapelle or Selfish with slum village
or even his BETawards "jesus walks performance"
and his enthusiasm and emotion was always borderline
crazy...ppl are acting like his antics are new

hes never really been able to articulate his thoughts
like remember his interview on the Breakfast club a few yrs ago

ye gon be ye

breh stay comparing shit to Wreck It Ralph and now Pursuit of Happiness lol.

what makes him crazy?

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/243/770/418.gif

im just patiently waiting..
i know hes all about evolving n shit
but damn man
I love love kanye from those two albums.

:(

....am I woke now? Jk...kinda

this isn't that much different from the heavily fragmented, pop culture laden way that ?uestlove speaks, but nobody calls him crazy

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>this isn't that much different from the heavily fragmented,
>pop culture laden way that ?uestlove speaks, but nobody calls
>him crazy
>
>d

...and is just a nerd. The stuff he says that goes over my head is usually stuff I have no knowledge about. If there's an issue with him I'd say it's that he assumes folks are as smart or knowledgeable as he is lol. That's cool in my books.

To me Kanye has problems expressing himself. And as someone said in this post his inability to articulate himself takes away from his message. No matter how good of a point it is.

I just happened to be around a computer a lot this week and watched his interview clips several times till I was like...."oh. I think i get it now". In general i don't have time for that.

And I also think quest and Kanye embody two different mind sets. I could be wrong here but quest is that cat who works and works and practices and practices and finds joy in his work by eventually mastering it.
Kanye is that dude who thinks he's entitled to be whatever he wants to be simply because his intentions are good. Life doesn't work that way. He put in work and mastered his lane in music and now wants to "save the world". He's got a lot more dues to pay if he wants to put the ideas he has into place. People (the gate keepers and people he wants money from) arent going to trust him simply because he's a top tier Rapper/producer and is 'passionate'

in music, interviews, etc.

Never a dull moment.

http://static.stereogum.com/uploads/2016/05/Kanye-West-on-Ellen-640x427.jpg

I still think its all calculated.

for all that talk about Picasso, Socrates etc


dude couldn't really tell you anything about any of those people

Especially in the middle there.

after dicaprio talked to the prez about climate change.
lol.

nigga too old to be this childish.

Looking from the outside I see impulse control, narcissism and grandiose ideation. I get that people don't want to diminish him by saying he is mentally ill but that doesn't change that kanye cannot hold eye contact with the person talking too him, can only speak in tenuously connected tangents, is so overwhelmed by his inability to communicate his ideas clearly and concisely that it leads to emotional outburst regularly, nor do many of his "world saving ideas" have very much substance. That doesn't mean Kanye doesn't have a lot to give to the world. Plenty of mentally ill people have made amazing contributions that changed humanity.
Having mental illness doesn't make him less amazing at the things he is amazing at and ignoring or spinning his mental illness as everything but doesn't make us more compassionate or supportive fans.



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DJTB YOMM

Turns out it was a bunch of shitty paintings. DEEP.

Some of yall talking about "woke niggas" being
stubborn and hardheaded, but...

They don't have their facts straight or a concrete
plan, but...

smh

As this dude runs around rambling, talking about
Kim K opened the door for Black men dating white
women as if that's either true or some kind of
grand accomplishment.

Yall serious too, lol

he's a dude of below-average intelligence who's surrounded by sycophants who egg him on.

there's a little bit of Terrance Howard in there, tho...

Crazy, weird, unpredictable but he has a great point.

He makes us so uncomfortable and he is right. Michelle Obama did start a fashion incubator for students because she realizes the potential in fashion. Why shouldn't black people have a stake in creating style that influences culture?

I still like Kanye.

>Crazy, weird, unpredictable

insuffeable

>He makes us so uncomfortable

lol, he does?



and he is right. Michelle Obama
>did start a fashion incubator for students because she
>realizes the potential in fashion. Why shouldn't black people
>have a stake in creating style that influences culture?
>

They should..and do..Kanye wants to be the one recognized for it


>I still like Kanye.


me too but he's a dip

Even more likely that he has a doctor prescribing him some sort of upper like Adderall.

There is literally no substance to anything he says....and he thinks it's REALLY important. Coke talk.

and turned it off. This motherfucker, man.

nothing to see here. Dude is trying way too hard to be something you really can't be until you die.

What's up with his voice?

I remember years ago Jay Z was on MTV, TRL I think the show was. Anyway, the VJ said something in reference to Kanye jokingly and Jay laughed and said "Naw don't do that he's crazy" the VJ was like I think it would be cool. Jay took a serious tone and once again said "Naw really, don't do that. That guy is crazy. He will be out in front of the MTV offices picketing" This had to be around '03-'04.