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13007351, Thoughts? Ex-NYPD Officer Gets House Arrest For Fatal Shooting|
Posted by Cam, Tue Apr-19-16 03:49 PM
13007361, Before this, I imagined Ken Thompson being the next Mayor of the City|
Posted by Cam, Tue Apr-19-16 03:52 PM
Now...my money is 100% on Letitia James in 2017.
13007376, i'm not voting for him for anything AGAIN|
Posted by teefiveten, Tue Apr-19-16 04:06 PM
he can go to hell
13007378, I don't get this political play|
Posted by BigReg, Tue Apr-19-16 04:06 PM
>Now...my money is 100% on Letitia James in 2017.
Dude rode on a wave of cop reform that he's pissing all away...unless he thinks the public is so slow they will remember the prosecution but the..you can't even call it a slap on a wrist.
13007382, you'd get more time for urinating in public|
Posted by teefiveten, Tue Apr-19-16 04:08 PM
13007383, She has the same position|
Posted by Numba_33, Tue Apr-19-16 04:08 PM
DeBlasio had before he became mayor, right?
13007385, yeah. he's not helping her w/ that either|
Posted by teefiveten, Tue Apr-19-16 04:10 PM
he's doing a poor job. it's going to be hard for her to flip PA into mayor
but she's doing a better job as PA than he did so there's hope
13007703, cant put my finger on what this guy is or is not doing|
Posted by Riot, Wed Apr-20-16 09:41 AM
but somethings just off
maybe the press just hates him and clouds the perception?
13007364, the bar is so low|
Posted by Riot, Tue Apr-19-16 03:54 PM
punk DA didnt want to give any time
13007372, we gotta have independent prosecutors who only work cop violence |
Posted by veritas, Tue Apr-19-16 04:03 PM
And want to put cops under the jail.
It won't solve everything but a local prosecutor who has a close relationship with the local police simply can't effectively prosecute these crimes. We've seen it over and over and we have to do something about it.
There IS a presidential candidate who supports US Attorney prosecutions of police violence....just saying. Not that he can necessarily get it done but still.
13007379, Have to wonder what the jury members think.|
Posted by Numba_33, Tue Apr-19-16 04:07 PM
I don't agree with the decision, but Thompson played it smart when he let it be known publicly that he didn't want Liang to do any jail time. Helped to soften the blow dealt by the judge's ruling.
13007387, i don't see how that's smart. he made the recommendation|
Posted by teefiveten, Tue Apr-19-16 04:12 PM
it looks bad on him
if the judge ignored him had he pushed for hard time, he still would have looked good - people would appreciate that he pursued justice to the very end. anyone who would have been upset at him being that hard wouldn't hold a grudge for too long b/c in the end they got what they wanted
he could have pushed for SOME jail time and looked better
13007466, How is that smart on thompson|
Posted by Cenario, Tue Apr-19-16 06:26 PM
And some jury members have said their tI'm was wasted to find him guilty but not pit him in jail.
13007380, Miscarriage of justice|
Posted by Doomdata21, Tue Apr-19-16 04:07 PM
He needed to do time to at least send a message that this can't stand anymore.
13007397, RE: Thoughts? Ex-NYPD Officer Gets House Arrest For Fatal Shooting|
Posted by Original Juice, Tue Apr-19-16 04:26 PM
I think it's some bullshit.
On one hand, I'm glad he at least received a guilty verdict; however, that sentence is trash.
I'm also honestly disappointed in all of the Asians who participated in the whole Justice For Peter Liang campaign.
13007414, I though it was hilarious it was the first time I'd ever heard the Chinese |
Posted by T Reynolds, Tue Apr-19-16 04:52 PM
in NYC talk about racism
OH NOW there's racism!
(towards Liang obviously and the context 'Why is he the only one NOT getting off????' is just so wrong-headed)
13007434, The snark and sense of entitlement on the Free Peter Liang Facebook page |
Posted by after midnight, Tue Apr-19-16 05:29 PM
is like whoa, seriously?
>(towards Liang obviously and the context 'Why is he the only one NOT getting off????' is just so wrong-headed)
13007592, I shouldn't have went there and read the comments|
Posted by flipnile, Wed Apr-20-16 07:41 AM
13007401, and the charge he was CONVICTED on was reduced|
Posted by teefiveten, Tue Apr-19-16 04:33 PM
13007429, What type of bullshit DA is this? |
Posted by Kira, Tue Apr-19-16 05:20 PM
Why did he have to be black? Dammit.
Brooklyn DA Kenneth Thompson shocked court observers and didn’t show up for the sentencing.
He had called for Liang to receive five years’ probation, six months of home confinement and 500 hours of community service — and taken plenty of heat from Gurley’s family and community activists for the move.
How the fuck you kill someone and get home confinement?
13007430, not only did he shoot him, he didn't provide first aid|
Posted by Rjcc, Tue Apr-19-16 05:24 PM
and didn't call for an ambulance.
www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
13007432, Out of all the recent cases, this one seemed the most like a true accident/mistake|
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Tue Apr-19-16 05:24 PM
He was poorly trained and put in a situation he probably shouldn't have been in.
I mean he got startled, fired his gun into a wall, and the ricochet killed Gurley.
Out of all the incidents out there, this is the one that leads to a criminal conviction?
I'm actually okay with probation here.
13007441, I actually stand in this line|
Posted by 13Rose, Tue Apr-19-16 05:45 PM
This was the killing that really looked like an accident. Dude is still negligent because he didn't apply aid or call for the ambulance right away so I wouldn't feel sorrow if he went away, but this wasn't Eric Garner. That said, someone lost their life. How do you rectify that?
13007500, RE: I actually stand in this line|
Posted by trane_fanatic, Tue Apr-19-16 07:51 PM
>This was the killing that really looked like an accident.
>Dude is still negligent because he didn't apply aid or call
>for the ambulance right away so I wouldn't feel sorrow if he
>went away, but this wasn't Eric Garner. That said, someone
>lost their life. How do you rectify that?
13007714, You rectify it in any number of ways|
Posted by Atillah Moor, Wed Apr-20-16 09:50 AM
none of which the police are capable of.
13007442, RE: Out of all the recent cases, this one seemed the most like a true accident/mistake|
Posted by double 0, Tue Apr-19-16 05:50 PM
The whole incident is the reason that cops need to be in the academy at least a year or more...
I will never understand why its common practice to take a new fresh inexperienced cop and stick them in the worst neighborhood you can find...
like.. you think that shit really makes em better?
13007501, RE: Out of all the recent cases, this one seemed the most like a true accident/mistake|
Posted by trane_fanatic, Tue Apr-19-16 07:52 PM
I agree with your sentiments.
13007443, What ?|
Posted by Lurkmode, Tue Apr-19-16 05:51 PM
>He was poorly trained and put in a situation he probably
>shouldn't have been in.
>I mean he got startled, fired his gun into a wall, and the
>ricochet killed Gurley.
>Out of all the incidents out there, this is the one that leads
>to a criminal conviction?
>I'm actually okay with probation here.
You ok with the part where he argued with his partner about who should call the shooting in ?
13007447, I didn't say he deserves a commendation|
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Tue Apr-19-16 06:05 PM
He messed up and made bad decisions afterwards that could be related to his poor training
13007455, You making excuses|
Posted by Lurkmode, Tue Apr-19-16 06:14 PM
You don't have to train common sense. The neighbor who not a cop tried to save the man without experience or training.
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Tue Apr-19-16 06:16 PM
13007467, Lol i bet if his partner got shot, his training woulda kicked in|
Posted by Cenario, Tue Apr-19-16 06:29 PM
Posted by Lurkmode, Tue Apr-19-16 06:43 PM
He wouldn't need experience for that.
13007477, His having the gun out of the holster is the reason he should have|
Posted by Teknontheou, Tue Apr-19-16 06:49 PM
All the bad shit starts from there. His failure to give first aid or to appear to give a shit about Akai Gurley after the bullet hit him isn't even the worst part, in my eyes.
13007472, Why was his gun out of the holster, with his finger on the trigger?|
Posted by Teknontheou, Tue Apr-19-16 06:39 PM
13007478, fuck nah, he didnt call it in or aid after the accident...|
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Apr-19-16 06:52 PM
13007484, yes but the cop used poor judgment and now an innocent man is dead.|
Posted by SoWhat, Tue Apr-19-16 06:59 PM
The cop deserved some prison time behind that.
13007499, Ain't you the one that says probation is worse than jail time?|
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Tue Apr-19-16 07:44 PM
This dude has 5 years to be on the up and up. If he can do that, punishment served.
He was terrible at his job and that led to someone getting killed. I believe it was completely unintentional and, as such, we shouldn't be trying to throw the book at him.
13007503, RE: Ain't you the one that says probation is worse than jail time?|
Posted by trane_fanatic, Tue Apr-19-16 07:53 PM
Thanks for being a consistent voice of reason here.
13007509, How is that |
Posted by Lurkmode, Tue Apr-19-16 08:16 PM
a voice of reason when he keeps avoiding discussing the cops actions after he fired his gun ?
13007516, I addressed it. He made mistakes and was terrible at his job|
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Tue Apr-19-16 08:36 PM
Failure to perform CPR and call the incident in promptly doesn't warrant a lengthy prison sentence in my opinion
13007522, He mistakenly called his Union rep|
Posted by Lurkmode, Tue Apr-19-16 09:27 PM
because of poor training.
13007526, I don't think he should had a lengthy sentence either|
Posted by Cenario, Tue Apr-19-16 09:35 PM
5 years ain't lengthy. I think 3-5 woulda been aight wit me.
13007547, 5 years isn't lengthy? Shiiiiiiiiittttttt lol|
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Tue Apr-19-16 10:43 PM
5 years will have me googling for extradition agreements
Posted by RexLongfellow, Tue Apr-19-16 10:35 PM
>I addressed it. He made mistakes and was terrible at his job
>Failure to perform CPR and call the incident in promptly
>doesn't warrant a lengthy prison sentence in my opinion
Failure to perform CPR and call in the incident is the icing of a shit flavored cake
Dude should have never had his gun out the holster. He KILLED someone, even if it's accidental. And probation is OK?
13007511, it's not true for everyone.|
Posted by SoWhat, Tue Apr-19-16 08:27 PM
this guy will have no problem completing probation.
i think his crime deserves a prison sentence.
13007487, Do we allow poor training as an excuse for negligence in any other field?|
Posted by nonaime, Tue Apr-19-16 07:17 PM
13007584, unfortunately, yes.. we do|
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Apr-20-16 07:13 AM
13007591, what fields are those?|
Posted by Cenario, Wed Apr-20-16 07:41 AM
any field where staff is poorly trained that results in poor service let alone negligence, i'm taking my business elsewhere....unless the jerk chicken is thaaaaat good.
but if it goes to the degree of negligence..foh.
13007623, you make take your business elsewhere but they usually|
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Apr-20-16 08:39 AM
don't shut the place down
13007642, so, what does that have to do with nonaime's post|
Posted by Cenario, Wed Apr-20-16 08:51 AM
poor training isn't an excuse for negligence. Just because local authorities don't shut it down is irrelevant. Local authorities do a lot of kcufed up things.
If you were aware that poor training was the reason for a product to perform negligently you would find that unacceptable and stop using the product.
Posted by murph71, Tue Apr-19-16 10:55 PM
13007550, never shocked or surprised, surprise he didn't get his job back|
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Tue Apr-19-16 11:09 PM
to be honest. and this cat may as well be White because to get house arrest for that is as close to being White as he could ever imagine
13007709, Nah a white cop would get a paid vacation and no house arrest |
Posted by Atillah Moor, Wed Apr-20-16 09:46 AM
free tickets to Sturgess and plenty of offers to speak at numerous rallies that champion taking the country back.
In all fairness black cops don't appear to go to jail either; at least not for killing other black people.
13007595, Not a surprise. Maybe his address will become public info.|
Posted by Atillah Moor, Wed Apr-20-16 07:52 AM
Posted by Cenario, Wed Apr-20-16 08:11 AM