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13167306, You trying too hard to defend whites
Posted by Lurkmode, Tue Jun-20-17 06:23 PM
>All Lives Matter would be if someone was talking about
>Philando Castile and I came in arguing "BUT WHAT ABOUT
>OTTO??!?"

Substitute "morally repugnant and "deeply hypocritical" people for Otto when you yell what about in a thread discussing White Privilage in NK.


>That's changing the subject from a black person dying at the
>hands of police to making it about white people as a form of
>misdirection.
>
>Independent of that conversation saying the murder of Otto
>Warmbier is wrong because I believe that the murder of anyone
>by cops is the opposite of that and is a position based on
>principle. A principle that if it were universally applied,
>would greatly benefit black people.

It's a reach and an attempt to expand the discussion about police murdering Blacks to a one size fits all. Police are murdering Blacks because they can get away with it. You are not taking a principled stand, you're covering up the original point with an exception is the rule argument. How many white kids did NK kill in the last three years ?

>Listen the author could have made an excellent point tying the
>death of Otto Warmbier to Philando Castile by making the point
>of being white in north korea gives a glimpse of what it's
>like to black in america, where non-compliance with minor
>police directives can cost you your life. If you can empathize
>with Otto, then you should empathize with Philando.
>

You mean connect it like this

"I’m a black woman
though. The hopeless fear Warmbier is now experiencing is my
daily reality living in a country where white men like him are
willfully oblivious to my suffering even as they are complicit
in maintaining the power structures which ensure their
supremacy at my expense. He is now an outsider at the mercy of
a government unfazed by his cries for help. I get it." - LaSha Standard


>Instead the author makes the exact opposite point which is
>Otto should have known better and complied with the rules of
>his environment...which is the exact argument people make
>defending racist american cops.
>

Nah she says more than that, she explains why he should have seen the danger of traveling to NK given his background.

>if you can't see the difference between the those two
>positions I am not sure what I can tell you on an internet
>message board.
>

You see what you want to see while you are pointing your finger at the author of the article and those who agree with it.


>>
>>Not really, if the punishment for taking the life of an
>>innocent changes based on whether victim is black, white,
>>progressive, trump supporter then it does matter and it is
>all
>>lives matter or blue lives matter. You are not maintaining a
>>principled position you are enabling whites by letting them
>>off the hook.
>
>
>Who is letting anyone off the hook? I am saying that if a cop
>unlawfully takes the life of a black person, white person,
>trump supporter, progressive, etc. then that cop should be
>punished. Where am I letting anyone off the hook?
>

You are giving a pass to those who say, agreeing with the author of this article, saying Black lives matter, holding police accountable is reverse racism. The argument against police murdering blacks is solid whether you agree with the article about white privilege in NK or not. A strong moral argument is not required to say Blacks should not be murdered.


>>
>>Otto's father's position is a misdirection. Kerry and Obama
>>didn't kill his son, NK did.
>
>
>
>
>So help me out here, who is Otto's father trying to misdirect
>attention from? Why would he be trying to misdirect attention
>away from the death of his son?

His Father putting the blame on Kerry and Obama admin when it should really be on NK.

>Do you just like the word misdirection?
>

You think he wants people to blame him?

Do you like the alt right troll on this board ?

>
>
>>No I don't need a perfect victim or a false equivalency. How
>>many white kids has the NK killed in the past 3 years ?
>>
>
>Dawg there is more to the world then white people so every
>issue doesn't revolve around white people.

That does not answer the question.

>something like 40% of the people in North Korean prisons die,
>mostly of malnutrition.

Are they white kids from the US

>Based on that fact and other accounts I hear about North
>Korean Prisons I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
>

That does not answer the question. You said this article about White Privilege in the NK is misguided cruel, hateful and anyone who claps to it is morally repugnant and deeply hypocritical, so I'm asking where is the same number of white kids killed by the NK state that we see with Blacks killed by police ?