https://www.instagram.com/p/BAn9ChDgjF7/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BANpQlmAjKo/

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https://www.instagram.com/p/BAA7t1_AjNQ/

https://theblackmedia.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/lilmama-takemeback-theblackmedia-2015.png

https://www.instagram.com/p/_tg7nUgjL5/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BAgcgm0gjBT/

Make no mistake
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she has strong ass features

Women hit 50 looking like that and we call them regal.

I think "strong" is mostly just being polite.

Everything else seems just dog piling. But to each their own.

da voice fire for a girl MC tho dont get me wrong

wish i could hear mama over some better production

and strong face doesn't mean she is ugly.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QRjnJKjL_ko/hqdefault.jpg



edit: matta fact, lookin at dis pic i can see how she coulda been lookin alright before. guess she was just on dat kid shit too har

dat FACE n dat VOICE made it impossible to look at her as lil n cute tho. like a lil rottweiler

She was always pretty, but whatever.

but like Brotha Sun said above, it's really just the look that is hot for Black women in "entertainment" right now

i think her personality more of in issue.

but whatevs

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And hair. But she still looks pretty much the same. Still built like your average NY hoodbooger.

It looks good on camera. How does it look in person?

the colors were NEVER accurate!and people dont go thru people!


my music:
www.soundclick.com/sylana
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brb8g8f18xE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NgNuVHrEKI

http://cocoafab.com/cocoafabs-beauty-of-the-week-lil-mama/the-bet-awards-2014-arrivals-2/

She's kinda meh right here.

Women with natural beauty passing you by.

that you dissed and now when you see here 15 yrs later you want to holla, but she ain't forget how cruel you use to treat her. LOL
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at the end of the day Lil Mama is a human being who raps

yet

all folks do all day is go in on her looks

that charlemagne interview? fuck was that shit?


can you imagine it if we did this shit for jay z?

like posting about his big lips instead of his talent




















the memes about her face? lets dead this shit

the constant discussion over her looks? lets dead this shit.


its shit like this thats been making hip hop a declining art form.

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>can you imagine it if we did this shit for jay z?
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>like posting about his big lips instead of his talent

and every December 4th since

Lil Mama is reduced down to "fuckable" or not

-Crashing Jay and Alicia's set because she "felt inspired"
-Complaining that people rightly criticized her for it
-Complaining that Jay and Alicia didn't defend her from said criticism
-Making excuses for her idiotic attempt to get some headlines and refusing to completely own up to her poorly thought out actions

And, again, that god-awful 'Noo Yawk' acccent she puts on when she talks.

There’s a reason all of these things are far more notable than her music: there’s really no reason to speak about her music.

Conversely, Jay Z is a titan with classic albums and a monumental legacy, which accounts for the multiple metrics you speak of. He MADE those metrics because he made good songs and raps well.

Complaining that we don't speak about her in the same light we speak about Jay is about as dumb as arguing that teachers should make millions instead of NBA players.

>-Crashing Jay and Alicia's set because she "felt inspired"
>-Complaining that people rightly criticized her for it
>-Complaining that Jay and Alicia didn't defend her from said
>criticism
>-Making excuses for her idiotic attempt to get some headlines
>and refusing to completely own up to her poorly thought out
>actions
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>And, again, that god-awful 'Noo Yawk' acccent she puts on when
>she talks.
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>There’s a reason all of these things are far more notable
>than her music: there’s really no reason to speak about her
>music.
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>Conversely, Jay Z is a titan with classic albums and a
>monumental legacy, which accounts for the multiple metrics you
>speak of. He MADE those metrics because he made good songs and
>raps well.
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>Complaining that we don't speak about her in the same light we
>speak about Jay is about as dumb as arguing that teachers
>should make millions instead of NBA players.

The point im making is that its not ok to just up and shit on her looks just because. she might be famous but she is still a human and it must be one heavy stone to carry knowing goat mouthed mouth breathers on an internet message board are going in on her looks.

I mean, yeah all that other shit you mentioned is herb worthy BUT, yadda yadda yadda

>The point im making is that its not ok to just up and shit on
>her looks just because.

Why not? What makes her special? What makes her the exception here?

You talk like you’ve NEVER just been around some buddies and someone had that one girl that one time, or you saw that one waitress, or whatever, and had a conversation along the lines of “yo is it me or does she look a lil manly?” or some shit along those lines. Like… you’ve NEVER expressed an opinion on someone’s appearance?

Be honest about that. Even if you haven’t, it’s a no harm, no foul scenario.

It’s one thing if folk are going in on her directly and telling her she’s ugly or whatever. You’d have a point in that case. Like, if you had some tore up waitress on mud duck status and the table was going in and cracking on her for it instead of talking amongst themselves, yeah. You have a point. But this? You’re going too hard to cape. You’re “taking a stand” on something incredibly insignificant. It’s textbook holier than thou armchair activism at its finest.

>she might be famous but she is still a
>human and it must be one heavy stone to carry knowing goat
>mouthed mouth breathers on an internet message board are going
>in on her looks.

Yeah, she’s famous. This comes with the territory.

Again, lazy armchair activism. Kill the melodrama fam. If we’re all ‘goat mouthed mouth breathers on a message board’- a wholly unattractive description of ever there was one- then why, exactly, would this be such a heavy stone to ‘carry’?

That description further establishes the fact that this is really of minimal consequence and an awful lot to do about very little on your part.

>I mean, yeah all that other shit you mentioned is herb worthy
>BUT, yadda yadda yadda
………right.
You’re trying to discuss an issue without actually discussing the merits of the arguments being made. You’re sidestepping the key point in my post:
There’s really not much to talk about with Lil Mama. There’s nothing of note to discuss. She’s pretty much on Kardashian status. Her art is not significant enough to spark any sort of discussion and THAT is the reason she’s ‘reduced’ to something other than her art. She’s nothing more than a pop personality at this point and the things people will talk about will be about as empty as chicken noodle soup with a soda on the side.

you think this is about you but its not

dont be in your feelings b.



for the record man, I cape for women because I like women.

if the concept of "caping for hoes" is in your mind then you might want to think about what you think

re: Lil Mama, the bullshit that is this post, the misogyny/sexism here @ OKP, sexism IRL of which this post is merely a symptom.

you see it.

>you think this is about you but its not

I think this is about "me"?
How exactly do you draw this conclusion? Show your math.

>dont be in your feelings b.

In my feelings?
How exactly do you draw this conclusion? Show your math.

>for the record man, I cape for women because I like women.

No. You're caping for THIS woman in a situation that doesn't require a rescue and you think you're really taking a strong stand.

lil mama, charlamagne or hip hop lol


she lookin good wit age yo, was just a compliment

it's really up to Lil Mama to make music so good we don't give a shit about her strong ass face.

it's always been this way bruh...

Jay's appearance occupied a significant line in one of the most significant diss songs in rap history by one of the most significant MC's in rap history.

That one line in that one song had an incalculably greater impact and influence on hip hop than the entirety of Lil Mama's career.... yet dude still somehow manages to question why we're talking about things outside of her music.

I can't imagine it would be any better were we discussing her music.

Unconventional looking as well. But men's value aren't measured by their looks in the way that they are for women. A man's "worth" is measured by his money/status and a woman by her looks.

#patriarchy

Comments like this just go against human nature. People are judged by their looks, and have been since there were people. Especially women.

It's odd that you're asking why her looks are discussed, but yet she clearly appears to have spent a great deal of money augmenting her looks (wigs, makeup, color contacts?, etc)

but I dont see the merit in it.

He brought up one of the most significant figures in MUSIC- not just hip hop- over the last two decades and asked us to imagine what it would be like if we reduced him to his physical appearance.

He said this in comparison to someone who is about as much of a non-entity as you can be in hip hop and still have a career and has nothing of note to discuss regarding her output musically, somehow in bewilderment that people would talk about her for reasons other than her completely forgettable artistic contributions.

He did all this with a straight face.

im offended that you think im stupid enough to equate the two as being equally talented.

point is, she is a woman and so we shit on her looks and reduce her down to dick and fantasy fodder while a male mc is able to go beyond just being seen as a piece of something to fuck or something viewed under that lens.


yo, whatever.

OKP has a big issue with women, this is known

and as you know this is bigger than OKP. but (too many) OKP(s) ain't bigger than this petty shit.

>and as you know this is bigger than OKP. but (too many)
>OKP(s) ain't bigger than this petty shit.

I didn’t say you equated the two as “equally talented”.

Your exact words:

“can you imagine it if we did this shit for jay z?

like posting about his big lips instead of his talent”
…and then went on to say something about this contributing to the decline of hip hop.

There’s a very marked difference between reducing someone with such a significant impact and presence musically to his camel face and doing the same with someone who is a comparative insect. It’s not “stanning for Jay Z” to point out this glaring discrepancy, but it IS stanning for LM to pretend like that wasn’t an egregiously out of touch comparison.

I explained the massive difference between the two and why people aren’t discussing LM’s “talent”.

The simple truth is that her talent really doesn’t warrant discussion.

The most notable thing in her career is hijacking a moment by talented people with real stature that she was unable to attain on the merit of her talent. That’s some Steve-O shit. She’s more or less Snooki. She’s one of the Jenner girls. She’s just sort of there. Her “talent” isn’t what’s keeping her name anywhere near an article or talking point or snarky message board discussion.
SO, I mean, tell me more about how incredulous you are about this because she’s being spoken of in light of her actual stature, not the stature she or you imagines she has due to her rather limited talents.


>point is, she is a woman and so we shit on her looks and reduce her down to dick and fantasy fodder >while a male mc is able to go beyond just being seen as a piece of something to fuck or something >viewed under that lens.

>OKP has a big issue with women, this is known

LOL. Cape on. You continue to ignore the fact that this really boils down to her having nothing particularly noteworthy to discuss. She’s a non-factor and a conversation about her looks is perfectly in line with her status as an basic pop personality with nothing of note aside from some badly misguided hijinks with more talented people and a completely clueless reaction to a backlash that was well deserved.
The truth is that it’s simply far easier for you to sum this up to the broad brush stroke of “OKP hates woman” than it is to objectively look at this without your cape fluttering in the wind and realize this is just a pop personality and the conversation at hand is par for that course.

When she puts out good songs and demonstrates talent worth discussing, perhaps people will discuss her talent and if not, you can rail all you want about her being “reduced” to something beneath her stature. Till then, cape on, caper.

"OKP hates women" because we refuse to give a female rapper a pass for doing everything but actually rapping.

Missy Elliot isnt judged by her looks because she has hits and doesnt walk red carpets and crash stages.

Its obvious Lil Mama is trying to be seen so of course dudes will talk about her looks until she drops heat.

I don't even know what dude is trying to save her from.

https://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2015-11/23/10/enhanced/webdr12/enhanced-10187-1448293333-11.png

just her look

She was on Power last week and she was doing that New York Girl talking like a New York dude thing. Terrible.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

>She was on Power last week and she was doing that New York
>Girl talking like a New York dude thing. Terrible.

It comes across as affected, like bad acting most of the time, the way suburban white kids suddenly start talking like Raekwon or E40 in certain company.

YOU AIN'T SHIT.

I don't give a shit how many makeovers she gets, I still see Shad Moss.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llxpu4bCiv1qcq31a.jpg

if you don't see it...
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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

if you had never met her?

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

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But none of my folks look or act like a woman.
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Didn't say anything about folks he hang with

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https://www.instagram.com/p/BAp0tRyAjKZ/

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Shit just looks wrong.

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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BAkinIQgjFK/?taken-by=lilmama