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12950269, Well...
Posted by soulpsychodelicyde, Thu Dec-31-15 01:26 PM
>>First… if you don’t see why calling folks (I assume
>they
>>were women) who (I assume) similarly disagreed with your
>>premise, the “bitter bitch brigade” is wholly fucking
>>problematic and misogynistic, then I’m not sure there’s
>>much else we need to discuss.
>
>The women who attacked me ARE bitter...and I have plenty of
>reasons to call them bitches. Mostly because they behave as
>such and we ride in the same circles. Apologies if you take
>offense to that...but I try hard to shoot straight. It is what
>it is.

Yeah. It *is* offensive and yes, I personally take offense to it. But let's move on.
>
>>But I’m going to assume, for purposes of this discussion
>>that you totally get why that’s a problem. I’m going to
>>assume that because someone – a woman – disagrees with
>you
>>and calls you on some offensive and misogynistic-assed
>>language, thinking and behavior, you now see that she’s
>>neither bitter, nor a bitch and characterizing her/them as
>>anything but someone who has a fucking opinion that – God
>>forbid – differs from yours makes you an asshole. I’m
>>going to assume that you understand that that brand of
>>reflexive dismissiveness is the fastest way for someone to
>>dismiss YOU, and decide that you’re an idiot and not worth
>>engaging, rather than driving the conversation and discourse
>>you seem to be seeking.
>>
>
>Okay. that's a mouthful but I'll attempt. The PARTICULAR
>individuals who responded in this manner...and as such earned
>the DVS Honorary "BITTER BITCH" emblem....have a history of
>dogpiling on anyone that has an issue contrary to their own.
>These PARTICULAR individuals have a tendency to take an
>antagonistic approach to anyone voicing ANYTHING contrary to
>their opinion. I have taken note and others in my circle have
>as well. As such...I rarely engage. However...when someone
>makes a comment about how people are going to start caping for
>Bill and say that its a "distraction"...and I reply that in
>truth....ALL of this shit is a distraction....instead of
>asking me why...I'm now misogynistic. **yeshrug**
>
>
>>But because it’s the New Year, and I’m trying to be
>better
>>about not dismissing people who think it’s appropriate to
>>call women “bitter bitches” because they have a
>>motherfucking point of view, I’m going to answer your
>>question:
>>
>>The reason that the question is offensive is because it
>>supposes that there are more important things than arresting
>a
>>man who -- over the course of 4-plus decades -- sexually
>>assaulted more than 50 women and got away with it. The very
>>idea that that is not worth your time and attention because
>>we/they/the world have bigger fish to fry is the very
>fucking
>>reason the man got to rape so many women and then turn
>around
>>and destroy their lives again by spending the millions of
>>dollars he earned while not being in jail to sue, discredit
>>and paint them as whores. Because you/they/the world
>don’t
>>give a shit about those women. I’m sorry that those women
>>maybe, finally getting to see the smallest glimpse of
>justice
>>is a distraction to you and not worthy of your time. But
>>really? Fuck you. I hope that shit is ALL UP IN YOUR VIDEO
>>until the motherfucker dies – preferably in a cold cave in
>a
>>flyover state.
>>
>>Hope that's helpful.
>>
>
>1. I love how you are just skipping over the presumption of
>innocence until proven guilty.

See? Ugh ugh ugh. But yeah I should've made that clear but I'll endeavor to do so now: there is no way he is not a creepy ass sexual predator so anything I say about this issue will be through that lens. Anyone who thinks otherwise really isn't worth engaging.
So if *that's* what this discussion is about that I'll kindly bow out and let y'all cook.

>2. I love how the state conveniently waited until the statute
>of limitations was almost up to press the case. This is a
>headline grab...I doubt very seriously that any new evidence
>has presented itself. HOWEVER...I'm willing to let the courts
>handle it and I pray that ultimate justice is servied.
>3. I'll repeat myself. I am not condoning rape. I am not
>caping for Bill Cosby and saying "HE'S INNOCENT". A question
>was posed as to whether this Bill Cosby story is a
>distraction. My answer then and my answer now is "Yes". It's
>sensationalized journalism...America loves to tear down people
>in public...ESPECIALLY when its a black man.

A black man who systematically over the course of 40 years drugged and raped women. INCLUDING black women. THIS is the black man you want to wag your finger at the media for? This guy? Really?

Bill has earned
>no friends and is owed no favors. I'm not a fan of how he has
>addressed the community lately...specifically the demographic
>of where I am from.

THIS is your prevailing "Bill ain't cool" rationale? Not the numerous sexual assaults?!?! So I'm to believe that Bill is a piece of shit because of his respectability politics bullshit, but not because he raped dozens of women and then tried to destroy them again with lawsuits and slander? That doesn't meet the "Bill ain't cool" bar but him telling you to pull your pants up is? You don't give a fuck about the women he assaulted but are offended about the condescending way he talked to and about black folk? Sir, if you have any questions as to why someone might call you a misogynist, please look no further.

But when I see people screaming "YES!!!
>GET HIM!!"...I call it as I see it.

BECAUSE HE IS A RAPIST AND A PREDATOR. Why is that so easy to overlook in favor of finger-wagging at the media?! Why is that narrative more important than the narratives of the 50-odd women he assaulted? I'm wholly confused by this.

I know when I'm being
>manipulated...I know when the media is seeking for easy
>headlines....and I know that...based upon this reply and the
>reply of the BITTER BITCH BRIGADE I alluded to....it's gonna
>do huge numbers.

The media is going to do what it's going to do. But if, in this case, that means a perp walk for the motherfucker who preyed on women, got away with it, and then preached about the ills of the black community? I'M HERE THE FUCK FOR IT. Fuck him. And fuck anyone who is so busy blaming the media and white people and whoever else for the deliberate and systematic sins of a disgusting piece of shit who doesn't deserve your deference, pity, or objectivity.
>
>Thank you for taking the time to reply. It was appreciated.
>
You got it.