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Man Allegedly Tries To Strangle Woman On LAX-SFO Flight After She Tilted Her Seat Back

by Eve Batey in News on Oct 19, 2015 8:55 am

A San Francisco-bound flight was grounded at Los Angeles International Airport Sunday night after a male passenger allegedly grabbed a woman by the throat for reclining her seat.

The plane took off at around 10:25 p.m. Sunday night, and had been in the air for about ten minutes when, according to an email statement from Southwest spokeswoman Melissa Ford, “The pilot in command of Southwest flight #2010 from LAX to San Francisco International airport returned to Los Angeles to allow police access to the cabin because of a rapidly escalating situation involving passengers who were not traveling together.“

"To receive priority handling from air traffic controllers, the Captain declared an emergency, landed uneventfully, and reached a gate where law enforcement officers met the flight.”

According to in-flight audio obtained by NBC, the plane's pilot contacted the control tower at LAX, saying "Evidently, we’ve got two passengers who are in a physical altercation, so we need to get turned around back to LAX."

A witness who spoke with NBC says that after a female passenger put her seat in the reclining position, the man, who was seated behind her, “started choking her. She shouted for help and the crew came to see what happened. The man stayed very calm during the whole situation.”

The woman moves to another seat, and by 10:43, the flight was back at LAX.

Law enforcement officers met the plane at the gate, ABC7 confirms, and removed the man from the flight.

"An individual was detained for questioning following the return of a SW aircraft to LAX based on allegations of an assault involving a fellow passenger,” FBI spokeswoman Laura Eimillier said in an emailed statement.

““The allegations involve assault of a fellow passenger but no charges have been filed...No arrest has been made at this time and the investigation is continuing.”

Ford says that the plane's other 136 passengers — everyone but the alleged choker — boarded another flight and landed at San Francisco International Airport at 1:48 this morning, about five hours behind schedule.

Here's a flight I took a few months ago.

https://instagram.com/p/3fKMmuiEdi/

Just gotta just sit straight backed and deal with it

There are airplane things that feel innate and you have to be some type of sociopath to not follow.
Like the distribution of armrests. Leg spreading (I understand you want to let your shit breathe, but stay in your zone). The disembarking order (back waits for front passengers to get their stuff and move through the aisle).

a:

how am i supposed to know if the reclined seat is hitting the legs of the person behind?

b:

i don't care if the reclined seat hits the legs of the person behind. the seat is designed to recline and so i'm going to recline. period.

If you are making someone physically uncomfortable (or even causing them pain), why are you going to continue doing it just because you can?

You can reduce your reclining, he/she can't shorten their legs

and so i'm going to use it to its full capabilities.

legs too long? too bad/so sad. not my problem.

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>You can reduce your reclining, he/she can't shorten their
>legs

It's like saying that you can make as much noise as you want in an apartment, because your neighbor can pay to live in a single-family home. The fact that other people theoretically have options, does not excuse you from having basic human decency.

Sosa in fact show a lack of decency. You might actually be a sociopath.

>You might actually be a
>sociopath.

i'll be that. in a reclined seat, natch.

*reclines*

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unless the attendants instructions are to put the seats upright.

I just flew to hawaii (10+hours) and these were freaking recliners. When my tray was down it was actually on my lap. I had to keep one leg on my wife's side and one in the aisle (fell asleep and got clipped by the food tray twice)

But that's what i paid for. You paid for what you paid for so how can i be mad at you?

http://www.gadgetduck.com/goods/kneedefender-how-to.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/28/knee-defender-ban_n_5723136.html

we was on that jawn with a bunch of girl scouts. Its enough that I don't like flying as it is. Nothing but little girls key-keyin' and the sound of the engines from Chicago to Honolulu. I had to get extra B.A. Baracus'd up for that one.

air travel never fails to make me want to choke at least one person, i just don't because i'm an adult with some semblance of impulse control.

you are going to have over 100 people pissed off at you if there's a hint of their flight being diverted.

what do you do?

complain to a flight attendant?

I'm a lead by example kind of guy

most of the time i charge it to the game but once or twice i have asked the person in front if they could move it up a little cause they were straight up crushing me legs. they didn't have to comply though, it was of them to but i couldn't blame them if they were like "nah fuck that".

because i've been there i usually don't recline too much. you can tell when you're just destroying the person behind you. i'm just not that much of a dick i guess.

but i usually don't.

If they're gonna put that seat back then they are gonna have to do it the old-fashioned way and ask me if they can, lol. Fuck that passive-aggressive, "pretend they don't know someone is behind them" shit.

so she could comp me something free.

Turned around, saw my knees pressing into the back of his chair, said "sorry" and gave it up. It was a short flight tho, like 90 minutes.

On longer flights, I aim for that aisle seat so I can stick my legs out there. Only major annoyances are the people that have to shit (and walk by me) 10 minutes after the plane takes off.

why are you taking it personally?

y'all talk niggas don't recline? I don't get it?

I wish a nigga would try to stop me from reclining... you better be swollen and mean as fuck cause otherwise... fuck your knees.

If I sit in a regular coach seat, my knees touch the seat in front of me. You can not recline. Period. Now, I usually get an exit row, bulkhead or economy plus, but recently I booked on a full flight and had to sit in regular coach. I'll inly do this on flights of two hours or less. You can sit up straight for two hours

if you can't recline and i have that unbothered look on my face...

;0)

Fuck all you reclining bitches,

I feel his pain been there before but I wouldn't do it to a woman

po thang.

don't nobody curr.

looking in here for! Nothing for you inside this bin fam. I don't care my back feels mad comfy in this bin. Look I got my own blanket and pillows, hahahahahaahaha fuck you!"

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that being said, nothing ever merits THIS type of response.

still, fuck it in the goat ass.
if I can drive there within reasonable time, I will.

too expensive, TSA eats da poo poo, and the seating is just bullshit

Wanna lean back? That shit is coming out of YOUR leg room.

and we are right back where we started...LMAO.

not even alec baldwin could get away with this without getting tasered, beat down and/or arrested? WTF?!

She reclined her chair and he started choking? Sounds like we're missing something.

>She reclined her chair and he started choking? Sounds like
>we're missing something.

Wtf? Calmly chokes a woman out and is let go scot free? And no photos or video leaked anywhere ?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/20/unscheduled-landing-after-hangin-with-mr-cooper-star-breaks-up-fight-on-plane

The actor-comedian Mark Curry, star of the 1990s sitcom Hangin’ with Mr Cooper who now hosts a morning radio show in San Francisco, said he had been asleep on the plane and the commotion woke him up.

“I thought it was a terrorist so I jumped up,” Curry told KNTV-TV, the NBC affiliate in the Bay Area. “The woman was saying he grabbed her neck, saying ‘He choked me! He choked me! He hit me in the head!”’

“The lady was frantic. They wanted me to put restraints on the guy. They asked me if I would help. I said, ‘At 30,000 feet yes! I’ll beat anybody down.’ It was an incredible situation.”


Imma put this dope ass theme song just cus...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ba1jFKXJR8
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DJTB YOMM

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put my belt on, and woke up when we were landing, I can fall asleep anywhere

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

........honestly, I already know going in that as a big and tall dude it's gonna be a painful trip....I basically go to sleep as long as possible and try to buy seats with more legroom... however, my flights are normally less than a couple hours...I can't imagine flying more than two hrs like that

I wish the trains were faster and cheaper...way better experience

It shows a lack of basic human decency

You tall ppl are going to be uncomfortable in a coach seat during a long flight even if the seat in front doesn't recline. So why should the person in that seat ahead not recline? Those 2 inches of lost space weren't going to make any difference in your comfort level. And if it's THAT deep then make arrangements to cop a seat at the front of the plane or in an exit row. Or, maybe try not being an asshole or a grump or a whiny baby and politely ask the person ahead not to recline totally. Or just stfu with your mutant ass and deal with fabric touching your knees for a few fucking hours.

Those 2 inches of lost space weren't going to make
>any difference in your comfort level.

But if I'm forced to sit in coach I always sit in an exit row for the extra leg room.

i still don't care.

or buy something that accomodates your size.

You don't buy pants 2 sizes too small and then complain when they don't fit do you?

really, really weird

I get why they do it...it sucks for ME, but I get it, and I ain't mad...I know what I'm in for and I can't trip over something that just IS....maybe it'll change one day, but not today....

....and I like my room, hence I always up to first class....which is what all tall people should do....or shut the fuck up...

and when i do fly coach, my seat goes all the way back....fuck yo problems....and yo knees.....

You want that baby in first class? He's not allowed to sit in an exit row.

i'm just making suggestions that will keep you off an airplane.

hope u enjoy this free Deep Tissue in your ass pussy

and you wouldn't keep it up long enough to bother me. and if you did i'd ask the flight attendant to handle the situation.

hint: they won't force me to raise my seat.

so, good luck w/that.

For what? He's in his own space.

Nah. If you're going to make me uncomfortable, we're going to be uncomfortable together

I'm 6' tall and 295. And I'm talking about domestic flights in the US.

I have friends who are 6'4" and 6'6" and even in first class there is not enough leg room for them to be comfortable. (They get around 5" extra so imagine how the feel in "normal" seats.)

Being fat I can still fit in the seat without a seat belt extensions but my arms definitely go over into the next seat.

I either buy two seats (wouldn't help tall folks as much) or fly first class. (I make enough money a year to do so - if you make $35,000 a year you probably can't afford it.)

Some airlines have a deal where if you buy two seats and the flight is not 100% booked then they'll let you have both and refund the charge for the extra. (Southwest calls it Passengers of Size program.)

Often times two seats are cheaper than a single first class set. And the fist class seat is only about 2 inches wider so if you're really fat it won't help.

But let's face it - if they offered different seat sizes for commensurate prices then people would have much less of a problem. Need 20% more leg room, pay 20% more price. Need 50% wider seat, pay %50 more. Charge 10% more to stop the person in front of you from reclining - and 10% less for non-reclining seats.

And "first class" is nearly the same as the back room - no one drinks $300 worth of booze, or eats $300 of muffins.

The sad fact is that airline consolidation, the increased "extra fees" like baggage fees, and fewer flights (so they're almost all full now) are coming into conflict with basic human behavior.

I hear a bunch of people in here blaming humans - like "ignore every instinct in you and just fucking bring your arms in and legs up and sit in a fetal position for 6 hours --it's what you PAID FOR!!!"

Not realistic.

Seriously, pick some random dates and look for first class tickets to Paris or Tokyo

NY to Tokyo

economy: Cheapest ticked $741
http://www.kayak.com/flights/JFK,nearby-TYO,nearby/2015-12-01/2015-12-15

First class: cheapest ticket $5709

http://www.kayak.com/flights/JFK,nearby-TYO,nearby/2015-12-01/2015-12-15/first




Chicago to London:

Economy: cheapest ticket $888
http://www.kayak.com/flights/ORD,nearby-LHR,nearby/2015-12-01/2015-12-15?reload=true


First class: cheapest ticket $6889
http://www.kayak.com/flights/ORD,nearby-LHR,nearby/2015-12-01/2015-12-15/first

Now imagine that you're buying two, three or four tickets.


I'm going to mexico with the family in December. I got us bulkhead seats. If we'd flown first class it would cost literally TWICE as much. It's not as big of a difference as those routes/dates, but it;s not insignificant when you're buying multiple tickets.

NY to Tokyo

economy: Cheapest ticked $741
http://www.kayak.com/flights/JFK,nearby-TYO,nearby/2015-12-01/2015-12-15

First class: cheapest ticket $5709

http://www.kayak.com/flights/JFK,nearby-TYO,nearby/2015-12-01/2015-12-15/first




Chicago to London:

Economy: cheapest ticket $888
http://www.kayak.com/flights/ORD,nearby-LHR,nearby/2015-12-01/2015-12-15?reload=true


First class: cheapest ticket $6889
http://www.kayak.com/flights/ORD,nearby-LHR,nearby/2015-12-01/2015-12-15/first

Now imagine that you're buying two, three or four tickets.


I'm going to mexico with the family in December. I got us bulkhead seats. If we'd flown first class it would cost literally TWICE as much. It's not as big of a difference as those routes/dates, but it;s not insignificant when you're buying multiple tickets.

I finally reached that point career-wise where I'm making enough to kinda/reasonably do whatever I want without having to budget or plan too much. I've been traveling more and although I knew 1st class would obviously cost more, I was thinking it would be something like "if it's $350 for a regular seat, 1st might be like $500....maybe $550?"

Nope, not even close.

Best I might spring for are those seats with supposedly more leg space, but I guess I'll be holding it down with the common folk haha.

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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)

Am I missing out lol?

I'm 33, have flown most of my life, and still do so every few months or so. Never once pushed that button and leaned back. I can't sleep sitting up OR being around people I don't know so it seems pointless to lean back those few degrees since I'll still be awake.

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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)

enough that i've noticed when i haven't reclined my seat during a flight.

See how they act when they get a little bit of power?

Next time you see a little dude, shoulder check him just to remind him.

My wife always jokes that I don't have an aggravated/middle ground mode. I'm just always nice, but when I finally do get mad you gotta get Black Widow to calm me down like Bruce Banner.

b/c, you know, jail and shit.

*shrugs*

i'm totally in this for the lulz, btw.

b/c i assume you're referring to a big dude being killed by police as opposed to whatever else you meant. considering i'd said big dudes are lucky they don't act out more often b/c they might end up in jail - as illustrated by the story in the OP.

police kill big dudes. choke holds. one more reason it's best that big dudes keep it cool.

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/07/height_and_longevity_the_research_is_clear_being_tall_is_hazardous_to_your.html

>http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/07/height_and_longevity_the_research_is_clear_being_tall_is_hazardous_to_your.html

Travelling to South Africa, I almost break out in Dance when I have to change planes, even Ethiopian Airlines is more comfortable than any American company.As tall fella though, I always ask for the emergency seats. almost always get it , even once during a Thanksgiving flight to NYC from Dallas.People be inconsiderate as a mug. Because they paid the fare their bamma ass think they own the plane.

If you're tall and you have that much of a problem then

#1: Don't fly southwest unless you're an A-lister and can get on in the first group and get bulkhead or exit row
#2: Spend the extra money for exit row

Yeah it sucks and airlines are assholes, but you can't fight another passenger because of it.

and they gave me a free second seat, along with letting me preboard with the handicapped folks so I got my pick of seats, and all my flights were fully booked. This is my airline of choice from now on.....




We the children of the Light, you know what I mean?
That's why I'm hating on the darkness like Paula Deen
Cause in my hood they masked up like it's Halloween
We going hard for the Rock, but we not some fiends
- Andy Mineo

>and they gave me a free second seat, along with letting me
>preboard with the handicapped folks so I got my pick of seats,
>and all my flights were fully booked. This is my airline of
>choice from now on.....
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>
>
>We the children of the Light, you know what I mean?
>That's why I'm hating on the darkness like Paula Deen
>Cause in my hood they masked up like it's Halloween
>We going hard for the Rock, but we not some fiends
>- Andy Mineo


yes I love southwest as well, I usually manage to get a seat by the exit or with some extra room. they when with customer service.