Had been WELL over 10 years for me. Decided to listen to it this morning at the gym on the strength of a post over in the Lesson. A few observations:

Ice Cube was angry

Ice Cube had bars. I mean, that span from "Kill at Will"/"AmeriKKA's Most Wanted" to say..."The Predator" was Rap God level. That was a damn near unparalleled run.

Ice Cube was angry

If there is a more misogynistic song ever recorded than "Givin up the Nappy Dugout", let me know. It honestly was cringe-inducing.

Ice Cube was angry

"Color Blind" could drop tomorrow and be dope. a 1991, gangster rap posse cut.

Ice Cube was angry

"No Vaseline" made me rethink my "No Vaseline" vs. "Bitch in Yoo" debate. Common smooth killed them dudes, but NV was so visceral.

What do you remember?

It's been a few months for me. Now, I'm about to cue it up.

Great album. I'm in the Death Certificate is better than AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted camp but they're both great albums. A Bird in the Hand was the jam.

Summer Vacation, Steady Mobbin, A Bird in the Hand, Man's Best Friend, Alive on Arrival, I Wanna Kill Sam, True to the Game, Color Blind, Doin Dumb Shit and No Vaseline are all legit joints.

>Great album. I'm in the Death Certificate is better than
>AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted camp but they're both great albums. A
>Bird in the Hand was the jam.

at that time in my life, Ice Cube was the GOAT hands down. It's a fantastic concept album and there's not a bad song on there. "Nappy Dugout" is cringe inducing and I always felt like it was supposed to be. (The Death Side, a vision of where we are today).

The homophobia on "Horny Lil Devil" and "No Vaseline" do make me cringe when I listen to it now.... but I still can't help but love both songs despite that.

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"Sometimes I contemplate moving to a warmer place, then the lake and skyline give me a warm embrace" © Common

and the way it was depicted in the movie was fucking hilarious.

and I'd be damned if it doesn't hold up today.

Albums like this remind me of how watered down and PC rap music has become.

shit is hip-hop's version of autobio of malcom, imo.

true to the game = all time fav

bird in the hand = chills

i wanna kill sam >>> life

"niggas get smoked that take they life for a joke" - are lyrics that should be written into the blk nat'l anthem

you shouldn't be able to rhyme until you've heard that shit 10x

That's a top 5/10 album to me.


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"Ice Cube comes back home to the funky west, sounding more comfortable and eager to piss anyone off in the process. His delivery loses a little oomph without the Bomb Squad, and sometimes he gets just a little too mean, I guess. I'm not sure what it is about this album that makes it less impactful than his solo debut, but it's there. His subject matter is very diverse and his word choice is plenty insightful...honestly I just can't put a finger it. If you were a fan of his first record, you're a fan of this one though. There's no doubt about that."

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Yes, it's still a great album.

There are more misogynistic tracks than "Nappy Dug Out". Lots of them. But "Nappy Dug Out" is genuinely funny; most over those type of songs aren't.

and I been listening to Most Wanted for the last week.

all because of the movie. Ice Cube was spittin

...cause we got into a conversation about West Coast MC's due to the Compton movie.

To this day I think Death Certificate is one of the hardest hip hop albums of all time. You're right, Cube was angry...ha ha.

I've always steered my brother towards the classics (Tribe, Outkast, Pharcyde, Slum, etc), but some Hip Hop he says sounds dated. Like early De La, Sugarhillgang. Stuff where the rhymes land right on the beat, almost like they're calculated (funny, that's the reason I love De La so much).

Anyway, I think he mistakenly searched out Amerikkka's Most Wanted instead of Death Certificate, and wrote it off as "dated". I'm trying to get him to give Death Certificate a chance.

It brings back a lot of nostalgia (I remember where I was when I first saw "Steady Mobbin'). There's a young homie at my job that is starting to wake up in his consciousness and I put him on to music that I listen to and I relate to the social and historical context of our world. I let him hear "Us" and his mind was blown when I asked him "What's the difference between 1991 and 2015?" When I was in school my thesis paper was on how rap artists have been social in their own right in different ways but mainstream society only hears them "Nigga this, nigga that...muthafuckas...BRRRRRR-AT". So when I let him hear Death Certificate and we talked about it he was glad I let him hear it. But I listen to that AMW on the regular.

first TPAB and TandY are wack...now you prefer Predator and Lethal Injection to Death Certificate??? You killin me, Smalls...lol

>first TPAB and TandY are wack...now you prefer Predator and
>Lethal Injection to Death Certificate??? You killin me,
>Smalls...lol


and im a big voice guy man.

if the voice is weird to me, i cant get with it.

kendrick and lupe sound like weirdos.

i could barely stand sadat x fwiw.

http://media.giphy.com/media/IzcV15G8QTrW0/giphy.gif

I don't take him seriously though and half his songs are trash.

Dirty sprite 2 was boring

That's def the start of Cube's decline.

Death Certificate sounds way too dated. Even amerikkkas most wanted sounds better.

Death Cert is a certified classic. Predator is a 4 mic album and that is off the strength of that check yourself remix.

Cube's early solo run wasn't arguably the greatest, it was the greatest.

A lot of that shit is so fucked up, though. Nappy Dugout is so funky, but also one of the most disgusting songs recorded. Nigga gotta just focus on the instrumental.

back!"

This is a young nigga Summer Vacation

Like you said, that AMW through The Predator is one of the best runs in rap.

i probably listen all the way though maybe once or twice a year, plus random tracks here and there

but damn if i didn't wear it out back then.


>"No Vaseline" made me rethink my "No Vaseline" vs. "Bitch in
>Yoo" debate. Common smooth killed them dudes, but NV was so
>visceral.

There's no debate. Bitch in Yoo is good, but it's not in the same universe.

but I have an 80gb ipod in the car that is always plugged in. I stop at almost every single Cube song. Like you said Cube had bars.

>but I have an 80gb ipod in the car that is always plugged in.

Was just telling someone last nite I need to add some music to it. Been a while, lots of stuff to get in the library. Problem is the busted computer.

Anyway I love having the thing, I got like 30,000 songs that I just sift through when I'm in the mood and nothing new to listen to on Spotify.

I just put it on shuffle and drive. Some days I do more skipping than listening. But those days when song after song of heat comes on is just wonderful. This is exactly my second one. Its about 2 years old because the one I had before died. My wife saw I was lost with out it and bought me another one.

>I just put it on shuffle and drive. Some days I do more
>skipping than listening. But those days when song after song
>of heat comes on is just wonderful. This is exactly my second
>one. Its about 2 years old because the one I had before died.
>My wife saw I was lost with out it and bought me another one.

That's great.

Anyway we have very similar brains regarding our iPods. Some days I listen to everything it plays on shuffle. Other days I'm just hopping through, skipping each song after like 30 seconds, just soaking in all the amazing music that is out there but not finishing because I want to see what's next.

But yea like you said - it's the best when shuffle just nails it for like an hour straight. Almost like it's reading your mood.

back when I was working nights I really enjoyed my drive home. 35 miles on the empty freeway with just me and my music. Sometimes the ipod would just keep hitting and hitting so I would stay on the freeway or just keep circling the block until it made a bad pick.

that said, it's ridiculously hateful (sometimes unjustified) and should probably stay buried in these more sensitive, PC days and times

I've been listening to it on a regular basis since it came out. I Love everything about it, the political/social message, p-funk style beats, features, skits, etc. This was the album that made me explore p-funk and George Clinton, it got me into the Lench Mob, WC, Kam, King T and Threat. I vividly remember the day I bought it and put it into my yellow Sony Sports Walkman. It shaped my musical style to this day and is the reason why im a huge fan of west coast (LA) hip hop.

Funny story, a 25 year old girl from work saw Straight Outta Compton and only knew Cube from Are We There Yet. I explained to her how Cube was Amerikkkas Nightmare and pissed off everybody back in the day and she coulndt believe it...

and naw while Common had one happening song and some lines, he still couldn't carry Cube's activator bottle back then, but then again back then who could?

cube was on that James Evans SR meets Fredd Sanford and a sharp Archie Bunker kick to your mind.
and from 89-93 Cube was unfadeable. truth is it took another West coast great in Snoop to have that next voice.

Cube was the pulse back then.

i love his attitude and getting at you.

Amerikkka's most wanted though is still my fave of those records though,however Jerri Curl to fro era Cube could do no wrong.

He had it all.

LOL @ people "realizing" how fucking sexist and nasty he was. He and Luke were leading that charge and everyone knew it. Come the fuck on. You can hate it but you should have been hating it from the jump. He did have a weird obsession with trains, like 12-14 dudes, multiple references to that. *pause*

Dude was an ill lyricist and he was out to shock people. One of the true giants in the genre for sure, I mean hip hop in general and certainly in the gangsta rap domain.

listening to something in your 20's then again when you're 40 can make you hear it differently. Rock on, though.

Never heard that album, only a few singles.