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Topic subjectGender WARZ: Successful ladies, stop waiting for a man as successful as u
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12891495, Gender WARZ: Successful ladies, stop waiting for a man as successful as u
Posted by John Forte, Thu Sep-03-15 09:08 AM
You finna be single 4eva. Your pool is too small and competition was too stiff. Those successful-ass men don't have the same criteria you have. They'll take you OR a broke chick. Cookin-ass Keisha's stock may actually be higher than yours right today.
12891497, Ain't no shame in being a spinster, man.
Posted by flipnile, Thu Sep-03-15 09:11 AM
However, it's true that if most men had to choose between:

1. Sanaa Lathan
2. The chick that works Starbucks that looks like Sanaa Lathan

A lot (most?) will choose #2.
12891506, most men with money/success maybe.
Posted by Cenario, Thu Sep-03-15 09:25 AM
i think most/avg man would choose sanaa and her paper.

or i would.

ion't even drink starbucks
12891509, You ever dated a woman significantly wealthier than you are?
Posted by flipnile, Thu Sep-03-15 09:28 AM
You can borrow her Benz if you want, but the snark would probably be off the chain.
12891560, afraid of a woman who makes more CHECK...
Posted by ndibs, Thu Sep-03-15 10:14 AM
.
12891565, my wife been making more than me for the last few years.
Posted by Cenario, Thu Sep-03-15 10:16 AM
We are in the same bracket but her paper is more. And i love it...sheeit, i'd scream it from the rooftops lol
12891570, yeah but you said significantly more.
Posted by ndibs, Thu Sep-03-15 10:18 AM
just replying to what you said.
12891606, no, you arent. lol
Posted by Cenario, Thu Sep-03-15 10:41 AM
>just replying to what you said.
12891611, lmao
Posted by ShinobiShaw, Thu Sep-03-15 10:43 AM
12891614, lol
Posted by flipnile, Thu Sep-03-15 10:43 AM
12891699, lol
Posted by cgonz00cc, Thu Sep-03-15 12:01 PM
12891591, Not afraid at all. Women that make "significantly" more than me...
Posted by flipnile, Thu Sep-03-15 10:33 AM
...just don't date me. By "significantly" I'm talking $30k+ more money a year. Never dated a woman that made that much more than me. Never dated girls from wealthy families when I was younger, either.

Economic stratification is a real thing when it comes to dating.

*shruggles*
12891617, If you aren't a king marrying a queen won't make you one.
Posted by Atillah Moor, Thu Sep-03-15 10:45 AM
Some men don't want an allowance. Or as Patrice O'neal said

"Have you met my husband the wife?"
12891563, nope but i'd get what i needed and get it out if that was the case.
Posted by Cenario, Thu Sep-03-15 10:15 AM
I don't think its fair to say that would be the case with all women anyway.

Besides, wasn't jlo giving some dude an allowance. I'd sign up for that.
12891608, It's all those damn cats that are deplorable-- get a dog!
Posted by Atillah Moor, Thu Sep-03-15 10:42 AM
12891498, Do you think this applies across different races & cultures?
Posted by micMajestic, Thu Sep-03-15 09:11 AM
>You finna be single 4eva. Your pool is too small and
>competition was too stiff. Those successful-ass men don't have
>the same criteria you have. They'll take you OR a broke chick.
>Cookin-ass Keisha's stock may actually be higher than yours
>right today.

Or are you speaking to a specific group?
12891499, It's gotta feel so unfair when they figure this out
Posted by RaFromQueens, Thu Sep-03-15 09:14 AM
They'll take you OR a broke chick.
>Cookin-ass Keisha's stock may actually be higher than yours
>right today.
12891502, This Steve Harvey ass advice.
Posted by Very-Effortless, Thu Sep-03-15 09:21 AM
12891503, did you read the first two words in the post title?
Posted by John Forte, Thu Sep-03-15 09:21 AM
12891504, ^ Only dates high six and low seven-figure dudes
Posted by flipnile, Thu Sep-03-15 09:24 AM
Why can't I get a chance, ma? I got mixtapes out. Shit's gonna pop any day now and I'll be outta mom's crib and international stunting in no time.
12891507, i know you married wit kids and all but really this is that old mentality...
Posted by Big Kuntry, Thu Sep-03-15 09:26 AM
especially this part: They'll take you OR a broke chick. Cookin-ass Keisha's stock may actually be higher than yours right today.

Brothas that look good on paper for the most part aint battin an eye at a youngin thats not making over 55-60 or at least a home owner.

we may smash a Keisha but we aint wifing her
12891510, Broke is relative. All I'm sayin is
Posted by John Forte, Thu Sep-03-15 09:30 AM
That male cardiologist is still dating nurses while that female cardiologist is looking for a neurosurgeon.
12891513, No! No! No! My brotha..
Posted by Big Kuntry, Thu Sep-03-15 09:36 AM
that female cardiologist is hangin wit the female neurosurgeon & they both gettin it in. You thinkin they at home watchin OWN, they're the biggest playas & doin numbers.

Stop sleepin!

>That male cardiologist is still dating nurses while that
>female cardiologist is looking for a neurosurgeon.
12891517, Andcdotal and all, but bruh, I know five black male doctors
Posted by John Forte, Thu Sep-03-15 09:39 AM
dating or married to nurses
12891519, nurses are professionals with 4-6 year degrees often.
Posted by ndibs, Thu Sep-03-15 09:42 AM
it's not like they're marrying women without degrees like you're suggesting women should do and are already doing. 51% of black women with degrees marry guys without.
12891538, you added all of your baggage
Posted by John Forte, Thu Sep-03-15 09:59 AM
>it's not like they're marrying women without degrees like
>you're suggesting women should do and are already doing. 51%
>of black women with degrees marry guys without.


That ain't what this post is about. Nobody saying successful women gotta marry bum-ass niggas. I'm saying don't turn down the CPA nigga working in internal audit because you're a senior VP.
12891556, nobody's turning down a CPA. you're bring all your baggage
Posted by ndibs, Thu Sep-03-15 10:13 AM
12891561, Married to a non-black woman CHECK...
Posted by ndibs, Thu Sep-03-15 10:15 AM
12891567, married to a woman more educated (prob better paid) CHECK.
Posted by ndibs, Thu Sep-03-15 10:17 AM
12891572, I ain't got no baggage, ma. I got CHOSE.
Posted by John Forte, Thu Sep-03-15 10:19 AM
My wife got TWO degrees that end in a "D". Of course she's more educated than me, and just about everyone else.
12891579, There's a joke in here somewhere, but outta respect...
Posted by flipnile, Thu Sep-03-15 10:23 AM
...I ain't gonna make it.

>My wife got TWO degrees that end in a "D".
12891580, I chuckled
Posted by John Forte, Thu Sep-03-15 10:24 AM
12891697, me too.
Posted by Kwesi, Thu Sep-03-15 12:00 PM
12891581, You're a typical black man. You married up. Lighter + more educated
Posted by ndibs, Thu Sep-03-15 10:24 AM
and/or better family. Don't think youre a special snowflake.
12891604, Ndibs, I'm a regular-ass nigga
Posted by John Forte, Thu Sep-03-15 10:40 AM
I'm handsome and charming and in possession with what I believe to be above-average dick game (In all fairness, I haven't had any dick to compare it to). I got me a lil degree (creative, at that!) and make a lil money. I have become an excellent husband, father and life-partner. You'd be lucky to have me.

The point of this post is "regular-ass niggas" are catches. stop waiting for your Kameela-ass nigga.
12891624, you completely missed the point, men like you are marrying up.
Posted by ndibs, Thu Sep-03-15 10:51 AM
and also imagining standards for women like me who are overlooked by black men because were anot high status.

do not have light skin.
and or are not high income.
12891634, I don't know anything about your relative level of success
Posted by John Forte, Thu Sep-03-15 10:55 AM
but you seem to be hit-dogging all over this post. I like you and would probably holla, were I single and in Omaha. I doubt that would be "dating up". Keep our head up, Ndibs.
12891725, she right tho. you're missing her point.
Posted by NikaMandela, Thu Sep-03-15 12:37 PM
12891748, Girl please-- especially if you live in Omaha, Nebraska!!
Posted by Atillah Moor, Thu Sep-03-15 01:05 PM
Of course you're going to have a hard time finding a good black man. You're in the Sahara as far as that particular resource is concerned.
12891620, For any black person to say what is typical among black people...
Posted by Atillah Moor, Thu Sep-03-15 10:49 AM
when we're all fractured pieces of a fractured culture...

this is why we can't have nice things.
12891520, but lets not act like nurses arent pulling $150 hr.
Posted by double negative, Thu Sep-03-15 09:44 AM
12891526, Where they do that at? Nurses making 300k?
Posted by John Forte, Thu Sep-03-15 09:47 AM
I need to get my ass down to community college and enroll in the RN program.
12891537, lmfao
Posted by MiracleRic, Thu Sep-03-15 09:59 AM
12891539, ^ gonna show up to the step-parents' place with a bag of sex toys next
Posted by flipnile, Thu Sep-03-15 10:03 AM
Friendly game of bball in the driveway turns into you throwing a no-look pass to step-mom, busting her nose.
12891569, dafuq?
Posted by Cenario, Thu Sep-03-15 10:18 AM
12891554, holla at me when you meet some successful female doctors...
Posted by Big Kuntry, Thu Sep-03-15 10:12 AM
or successful female lawyers who pulling in numbers.

Case in point this weekend in DC, they had the #dinerenblanc. Countless BEAUTIFUL women makin bank! Carrying brothas left & right. Maybe from your vantage point the pool is small and you think that the competition is stiff but that outlook is old.
12891583, lol, nigga nurses with the right certification are $$$-ing outta control
Posted by WarriorPoet415, Thu Sep-03-15 10:25 AM
I know several of them and all of them are doing 80K+, easily.
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"There's a fine line between persistence and foolishness..."
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"To Each His Reach"
12891609, isn't that significantly less than an avg doctor
Posted by Cenario, Thu Sep-03-15 10:42 AM
>I know several of them and all of them are doing 80K+,
>easily.
>____________________________________________________________________
12891619, but it ain't broke.
Posted by WarriorPoet415, Thu Sep-03-15 10:47 AM
and the pay disparity ain't as great either depending on specialties.
______________________________________________________________________________

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"There's a fine line between persistence and foolishness..."
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"To Each His Reach"
12891623, post 10
Posted by Cenario, Thu Sep-03-15 10:51 AM
12891713, i dont think you know what you're talking about, lol
Posted by NikaMandela, Thu Sep-03-15 12:16 PM
12891514, gets in this line
Posted by double negative, Thu Sep-03-15 09:37 AM
12891588, Cats with REAL paper want a trophy wife that doesn't work...
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Sep-03-15 10:28 AM
>especially this part: They'll take you OR a broke chick.
>Cookin-ass Keisha's stock may actually be higher than yours
>right today.
>
>Brothas that look good on paper for the most part aint battin
>an eye at a youngin thats not making over 55-60 or at least a
>home owner.
>
>we may smash a Keisha but we aint wifing her
12891590, real paper = above 250k annually?
Posted by double negative, Thu Sep-03-15 10:32 AM
12891597, Cats with REAL paper want a wife that makes her own money
Posted by Big Kuntry, Thu Sep-03-15 10:36 AM
12891626, Cats with REAL paper do whatever the fuck they want.
Posted by Atillah Moor, Thu Sep-03-15 10:52 AM
12891639, Cats with REAL paper fold like origami
Posted by Big Kuntry, Thu Sep-03-15 10:57 AM
12891701, this a good show.
Posted by Kwesi, Thu Sep-03-15 12:03 PM
i got nothing to add.
12891751, Cats with REAL paper stay fly and high like planes
Posted by Atillah Moor, Thu Sep-03-15 01:08 PM
12891761, Cats with REAL paper make it rain like confetti on NYE in NYC
Posted by flipnile, Thu Sep-03-15 01:22 PM
12891706, I've literally never heard this.
Posted by RaFromQueens, Thu Sep-03-15 12:08 PM
I don't know what circles you move in and I don't necessarily agree with all that's being said here, but that's news to me.
12891723, ...
Posted by Big Kuntry, Thu Sep-03-15 12:31 PM
12891827, this is the first and last time you will hear it
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Sep-03-15 02:46 PM
its very untrue.

12891833, how?
Posted by Big Kuntry, Thu Sep-03-15 02:53 PM
>its very untrue.
>
>
12891714, that "power couple" shit is some female social media fantasy bs, lol...
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Sep-03-15 12:19 PM
everybody wanna be Jay and Beyonce...

In the real world those relationships almost never last.

The women is more focused on her "career" than her man and he ends up fucking his secretary.
12891722, i've seen it go both ways...
Posted by Big Kuntry, Thu Sep-03-15 12:30 PM
not counting out what you're saying but for the couples that *I* know who are "successful" have managed to keep both their professional & family lives in check.

and usually those relationships where the dude steps out, it's deeper than her just bein focused on her career.

12891737, when most dudes step out it aint deep at all bruh...
Posted by legsdiamond, Thu Sep-03-15 12:50 PM
it's different Pussy and he didn't think he would get caught...

now leaving the marriage altogether... hell, even that ain't deep.
12891512, Hypergamy can often put successful women in a bind.
Posted by Teknontheou, Thu Sep-03-15 09:35 AM
12891516, still stuck on traditional Western gender roles
Posted by John Forte, Thu Sep-03-15 09:38 AM
12891630, Oh-- we making cats look up words now!?
Posted by Atillah Moor, Thu Sep-03-15 10:54 AM
12891518, the majority of college educated black women marry
Posted by ndibs, Thu Sep-03-15 09:40 AM
men without degrees. most women are not looking for someone equally successful, convicts and jobless bums have no problem starting families or finding nice women with decent jobs to latch onto. for what you're saying to make any sense there would have to be an overabundance of guys out there who are lonesome and looking but can't find a decent woman. nah there are a bunch of men satisfied to be single or are dating / marrying up. so this post can end here.
12891521, What kinda man do you want, ndibs?
Posted by flipnile, Thu Sep-03-15 09:44 AM
What kinda education? Job? Looks? Ethnicity? etc.
12891524, https://bossip.files.wordpress.com/swirlsociety126.gif
Posted by double negative, Thu Sep-03-15 09:45 AM
https://bossip.files.wordpress.com/swirlsociety126.gif

?????
12891531, Well, we gotta get help find her her white king...
Posted by flipnile, Thu Sep-03-15 09:52 AM
...so she can stop going all FOX News on black men every time a dating or marriage post comes up.
12891564, Admits he goes on dates with ideal wmen and never calls CHECK
Posted by ndibs, Thu Sep-03-15 10:15 AM
.
12891575, ndibs, would you date me? I got a degree and a job.
Posted by flipnile, Thu Sep-03-15 10:20 AM
Plus, I'm a big black guy, so I can throw you around in that good way.

So, what say ye?
12891582, are you a creative?
Posted by John Forte, Thu Sep-03-15 10:25 AM
12891602, imaginary standards for everyone.
Posted by ndibs, Thu Sep-03-15 10:38 AM
i gotta get back to work.. you have fun with this.
12891605, :(
Posted by flipnile, Thu Sep-03-15 10:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjsPG0Kspxo
12891607, I sketch, play a few instruments and do graphic design as part...
Posted by flipnile, Thu Sep-03-15 10:42 AM
...of my career.

But, ndibs ain't feeling me. She's never responded to even ONE of my not-so-subtle posts over the years.
12891703, aye, dogg, how you get a hold of my engagement photo?
Posted by KiloMcG, Thu Sep-03-15 12:05 PM
12891523, This post is not about "college educated black women"
Posted by John Forte, Thu Sep-03-15 09:44 AM
It's about women, of any race, who can generally be called successful. For the sake of discussion, let's say upper-middle class or middle class with graduate degrees.
12891525, this is coming off Mansplain-y
Posted by double negative, Thu Sep-03-15 09:47 AM
i get the idea but at the same time, why shouldnt a person go after what they desire?
12891533, too soon?
Posted by themaddfapper, Thu Sep-03-15 09:54 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVXzyaovsMc
12891657, This post is a clusterfuck
Posted by ShinobiShaw, Thu Sep-03-15 11:14 AM
12891674, Here's my thing. I feel that some successful women may not get
Posted by -DJ R-Tistic-, Thu Sep-03-15 11:34 AM
that men don't value their career success in the way that they do with us...so I will hear some of them appear to be surprised when a guy does chose a woman who's "not at their level" over them, or just in general.

What I can say is that for me, the career success isn't a major factor, and I'm more about the time you have. It's a complete mixture...some professional women I know will work a solid 40-45 hours a week, while some work 65-70. Then, some women who want to be actresses or even some who aren't established yet may work/attend school 50-60 hours a week, while some only work 20-30.

And with that, I'm really just about who has more time to spend, plus what their overall goals are, versus where they currently are. I don't want an unemployed chick who has nothing BUT time, but if we can only see each other once a month, it damn sure won't work.
12891732, He titled the post Gender Warz and yall still took the bait
Posted by atruhead, Thu Sep-03-15 12:47 PM
12891740, RE: Gender WARZ: Successful ladies, stop waiting for a man as successful as u
Posted by ILLwiLL132, Thu Sep-03-15 12:53 PM
LOL Great post.
12891746, this mostly isn't true
Posted by NikaMandela, Thu Sep-03-15 01:03 PM
most men DO care about what a woman brings to the table financially.

and please understand what "broke" means to a woman. it means crusty feet, DIY hair, wack gear and cheap perfume. if a woman is broke, she does not have the financial resources to look her best, and aint no dude wifing that unless he's subsidizing.

and unlike men, women in this position do not have the option of hoping that a man will see her "potential" and wife her anyway.

i also feel like a lot of dudes may not necessarily have an opinion about a woman's finances, but when they come across someone who is significantly more successful than them, that can be a strong motivating factor in marrying her.



12891871, there's a difference between broke and trifling...
Posted by ThaTruth, Thu Sep-03-15 03:57 PM
>and please understand what "broke" means to a woman. it means
>crusty feet, DIY hair, wack gear and cheap perfume. if a woman
>is broke, she does not have the financial resources to look
>her best, and aint no dude wifing that unless he's
>subsidizing.

I know plenty of broke chicks that stay fly, conversely I know plenty of "successful career women" who don't put in as nearly as much effort in keeping themselves up.

Last week I met a chick at happy hour who is a very successful attorney in her late 30's and makes well into 6 figures but her feet were ashy and crusty as a mf and it looked like she had never had a pedicure EVER. Immediate turnoff. And she had the never to be complaining about not being able to find a man "on her level", lol