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12889273, Richard Pryor movie is official. Partial swipe.
Posted by normal35762, Sat Aug-29-15 09:47 AM
http://deadline.com/2015/08/richard-pryor-oprah-winfrey-eddie-murphy-mike-epps-kate-hudson-lee-daniels-harvey-weinstein-1201509601/


EXCLUSIVE: The Weinstein Company is ready to greenlight its Richard Pryor biopic, and my, have Harvey Weinstein and Lee Daniels put together a terrific cast. The new additions: Oprah Winfrey will play Pryor’s grandmother, who ran a brothel and raised the iconic comic there; Eddie Murphy will play Pryor’s father, Leroy “Buck Carter” Pryor. Kate Hudson is set to play Pryor’s widow, Jennifer Lee Pryor. And Mike Epps is now locked to play Pryor, a role coveted by a lot of actors. Daniels, who worked with Weinstein and Winfrey on the blockbuster Lee Daniels’ The Butler, will start production in March, after wrapping up the second season of his hit Fox series Empire.



12889274, was excited until I heard Epps was cast as Pryor
Posted by RobOne4, Sat Aug-29-15 09:54 AM
I really dont want to see it now.
12889278, for a minute I thought Marlon Wayans might get it.....
Posted by rorschach, Sat Aug-29-15 10:17 AM
12889287, Marlon's audition: https://vimeo.com/120374610
Posted by SooperEgo, Sat Aug-29-15 10:43 AM
https://vimeo.com/120374610
12889296, damn....that was....good
Posted by Dstl1, Sat Aug-29-15 11:27 AM
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12889522, So. Uncomfortable.
Posted by Doronmonkflake, Sun Aug-30-15 10:49 PM
12889524, There's no way Mike Epps did more than that.
Posted by Doronmonkflake, Sun Aug-30-15 10:53 PM
12889290, Nah, it might actually be good if he doesnt get to adlib
Posted by legsdiamond, Sat Aug-29-15 11:11 AM
I think Epps might actually be a decent actor if he sticks to the script
12889291, the Mike Epps hate is so bizarre
Posted by seasoned vet, Sat Aug-29-15 11:13 AM
12889327, no it isnt.. when that many people think he is unfunny....
Posted by legsdiamond, Sat Aug-29-15 02:58 PM
it's prolly cause he isn't that funny.

12889336, it's mostly on here though
Posted by southphillyman, Sat Aug-29-15 03:42 PM
mike epps natural mannerisms are some what like pryors
i'm giving him a chance
12889342, honestly, no one I know is even talking about this film yet
Posted by legsdiamond, Sat Aug-29-15 04:03 PM
but I agree...

I think he is going to do a good job in this role.

12889371, same way people talked about Jamie via Ray
Posted by eclipsedInI, Sat Aug-29-15 07:23 PM
12889333, Same here - I just don't have confidence in Epps being able to portray
Posted by vee-lover, Sat Aug-29-15 03:25 PM
such a complex person as Rich even though Epps is a comedian

I don't recall Epps ever having a lead (or supporting) role in a dramatic film which is critical (for me) because its the more serious aspects to Pryor's life moreso than his comedy that I'm interested and seeing and learning abt


>I really dont want to see it now.
12889337, You talking about the guy that was in The Toy and Superman 2
Posted by PIMPINCHICAGO, Sat Aug-29-15 03:47 PM
What was Jaime before Ray?
Kim Wayans before Pariah?

12889350, This is a film abt Pryor's REAL life not abt his movie roles
Posted by vee-lover, Sat Aug-29-15 04:15 PM
There were many layers to Pryor's life beyond just being an actor and a great stand up comic that imo requires some real acting chops in order to do justice to his life/legacy

>What was Jaime before Ray?

A very talented person who happened to land the role that was tailor-made for him due to him being a really good impressionist and pianist. (Notice he hasn't had an Oscar worthy role since Ray)

>Kim Wayans before Pariah?

What is she now? lol
>
>
12889362, Jamie was actually funny before Ray
Posted by legsdiamond, Sat Aug-29-15 06:43 PM
he also did a good job in Any Given Sunday

I will admit, Epps was good in Bessie
12889439, jamie was nominated for an oscar for collateral (before ray).
Posted by tingum, Sun Aug-30-15 12:26 PM
he had shown plenty of talent to that point.

ive never seen anything with mike epps
that made me think he was even a mediocre dramatic actor.
but im rootin for the brotha.
12889471, Pretty sure that was the same year as Ray.
Posted by Ryan M, Sun Aug-30-15 03:22 PM
Still, between Ali, Any Given Sunday, and other places - he'd shown plenty of promise.
12889475, yeah collateral was released before ray. ("What was Jaime before Ray?")
Posted by tingum, Sun Aug-30-15 04:06 PM
12889542, It is.
Posted by b.Touch, Mon Aug-31-15 02:39 AM
He was nominated for Best Actor & Best Supporting the same year.
12889364, bessie
Posted by blackrussian, Sat Aug-29-15 06:50 PM
>(supporting) role in
>a dramatic film
12889544, Mike Epps is one of the few good things about the remake of "Sparkle".
Posted by b.Touch, Mon Aug-31-15 02:40 AM
He can legitimately act. And well.

He'll do just fine as Pryor.
12889276, I thought this was already being filmed! lol
Posted by rdhull, Sat Aug-29-15 10:10 AM
12889292, LOL @ Kate Hudson
Posted by Mgmt, Sat Aug-29-15 11:21 AM
12889329, This sounds great. I thought Mike's performance
Posted by luvlee2003, Sat Aug-29-15 03:14 PM
in Bessie was great.
12889380, I don't get all the Mike Epps hate...
Posted by RaphaelSoulLee, Sat Aug-29-15 08:44 PM
Bamma's like Pryor reincarnated...funny as hell & got real life skreet experience, to boot! This OKP, though.

I will say that Marlon shocked me in his audition, though.
12889388, I think Mike Epps will do great....he'll get even doucheir after the film
Posted by Heinz, Sat Aug-29-15 10:49 PM

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12889404, how is this gon beat out Jojo Dancer?
Posted by LAbeathustla, Sun Aug-30-15 09:10 AM
where he telling his own story produced by oliver stone
12889427, ^^^THIS^^^ is my main question. I don't get the excitement over this
Posted by CaptainRook, Sun Aug-30-15 11:27 AM
production. The Richard Pryor movie has ALREADY been done. It was called, " Jo Jo Dancer, Your Life is Calling You".

And IDC who they get to PLAY Richard Pryor, NOBODY is gonna out Richard Pryor, Richard Pryor and I don't believe this movie is gonna outdo Richard's own movie on his life.

Hence, all of this hub bub, is much ado about nothing.
12889428, Jojo dancer was done at a time where film-makers had sort of a
Posted by c71, Sun Aug-30-15 11:48 AM
"weak" touch.

If it were made 5 or especially 10 or 15 years earlier, Jojo dancer could have been in its own world in terms of quality.

but...

in the mid-80's, film style was kind of thin and bland, and that was evident in the quality of Jojo dancer.


Not saying this new movie is a "lock" for having a more substantial quality, but I have lot's of disappointment for films of the 1985 - 1988 era, and Jojo dancer is a prime target of that disappointment, so I'm fine with trying to go past Jojo dancer.


12889432, weak touch? you seen that shit?
Posted by LAbeathustla, Sun Aug-30-15 12:16 PM
aint nobody outdoin rich on his OWN shit...80s 90s 2000s...


>"weak" touch.
>
>If it were made 5 or especially 10 or 15 years earlier, Jojo
>dancer could have been in its own world in terms of quality.
>
>but...
>
>in the mid-80's, film style was kind of thin and bland, and
>that was evident in the quality of Jojo dancer.
>
>
>Not saying this new movie is a "lock" for having a more
>substantial quality, but I have lot's of disappointment for
>films of the 1985 - 1988 era, and Jojo dancer is a prime
>target of that disappointment, so I'm fine with trying to go
>past Jojo dancer.
>
>
>
12889434, It was wack like lot's of movies of that era
Posted by c71, Sun Aug-30-15 12:18 PM
It literally has no status whatsoever.
12889435, Please stop talking about movies being "wack" from that era.
Posted by bwood, Sun Aug-30-15 12:23 PM
A lot of movies from the 80s are considered classics, so it's pretty obvious your talking out of your ass and/or you just don't know what you're talking about.
12889438, See reply #27 and no I"m not CJ but reply #27 is a co-sign for moi
Posted by c71, Sun Aug-30-15 12:25 PM
yes
12889441, so you're gonna marginalize a whole era of movies based off one film?
Posted by bwood, Sun Aug-30-15 12:28 PM
Good to know.
12889443, in reply #23, I clearly stated 1985 to 1988 as the era I found wack
Posted by c71, Sun Aug-30-15 12:35 PM
and yes there were some good movies in those years but some of my fav's disappointed badly.


Scorsese "The Color of money"

Carpenter "They live"

Landis "Spy's like us", "into the night"

Ridley Scott "someone to watch over me"


Those were some big disappointments that "fit" into (if not shaped) the way I was severely "let down" from my previous "infatuation" with film previously.


12889452, You're still marginalizing tho
Posted by bwood, Sun Aug-30-15 01:21 PM
Back to the Future

After Hours

Brazil

Fletch

Better Off Dead

Krush Groove

The Last Dragon

Pee Wee's Big Adventure

Rambo: First Blood Part II

Platoon

Aliens

A Better Tomorrow

The Fly

Labyrinth

Manhunter

Platoon

Broadcast News

Full Metal Jacket

Fatal Attraction

Lethal Weapon

The Last Emperor

RoboCop

Raising Arizona

Wall Street

The Witches of Eastwick

The Untouchables

Coming to America

Who Framed Roger Rabbit

Die Hard

Akria

Betttlejuice

Bull Durham

The Naked Gun
12889457, Don't leave out 'The Color Purple'...'A Soldier's Story"....'She's Gotta
Posted by vee-lover, Sun Aug-30-15 01:33 PM
have it'...'School Daze'

>Back to the Future
>
>After Hours
>
>Brazil
>
>Fletch
>
>Better Off Dead
>
>Krush Groove
>
>The Last Dragon
>
>Pee Wee's Big Adventure
>
>Rambo: First Blood Part II
>
>Platoon
>
>Aliens
>
>A Better Tomorrow
>
>The Fly
>
>Labyrinth
>
>Manhunter
>
>Platoon
>
>Broadcast News
>
>Full Metal Jacket
>
>Fatal Attraction
>
>Lethal Weapon
>
>The Last Emperor
>
>RoboCop
>
>Raising Arizona
>
>Wall Street
>
>The Witches of Eastwick
>
>The Untouchables
>
>Coming to America
>
>Who Framed Roger Rabbit
>
>Die Hard
>
>Akria
>
>Betttlejuice
>
>Bull Durham
>
>The Naked Gun
>
12889461, Word forgot about those. Good looks. nm
Posted by bwood, Sun Aug-30-15 01:37 PM
nm
12889458, RE: You're still marginalizing tho
Posted by c71, Sun Aug-30-15 01:34 PM
>Back to the Future - decent
>
>After Hours
>
>Brazil - decent
>
>Fletch - nah
>
>Better Off Dead
>
>Krush Groove - horrid
>
>The Last Dragon - decent
>
>Pee Wee's Big Adventure - eh
>
>Rambo: First Blood Part II - horrid
>
>Platoon - eh
>
>Aliens - eh
>
>A Better Tomorrow
>
>The Fly - eh
>
>Labyrinth
>
>Manhunter - good
>
>Platoon - eh
>
>Broadcast News - horrid
>
>Full Metal Jacket - eh
>
>Fatal Attraction - horrid
>
>Lethal Weapon - horrid
>
>The Last Emperor
>
>RoboCop - eh
>
>Raising Arizona
>
>Wall Street - horrid
>
>The Witches of Eastwick
>
>The Untouchables - eh
>
>Coming to America - eh
>
>Who Framed Roger Rabbit - horrid
>
>Die Hard - good
>
>Akria
>
>Betttlejuice
>
>Bull Durham
>
>The Naked Gun - good
>


As a little kid in the late 70's to around 1984, I could see a commercial for a film on TV (Alien, Superman, Friday the the 13th, The Jerk, Creepshow, Trading Places, Purple Rain, Blade Runner, etc.) and the visuals, the way it was edited, the quality of the film/camerawork, the music, the voiceover on the commercial would lead me to be have the feeling: "this movie looks mind-blowing!!!!!!" then, if I saw the movie, usually it would live up to expectations.

All I know, from 1985 to 1988, there was a lot of:

"the film quality/camerawork on this commercial for this movie looks kinda 'blah'"

"this subject matter of this movie looks kinda dull..."

"this looks kinda corny..."

and more and more commercials for films would give me an underwhelming feeling, but....since I liked movies I would go to the movies anyway, and....I usually in 1985 - 1988 didn't like what I saw.
12889460, Okay. So now I know your opinion is trash.
Posted by bwood, Sun Aug-30-15 01:36 PM
Thanks!
12889462, sure you do
Posted by c71, Sun Aug-30-15 01:44 PM
hmmm.............
12889436, JoJo was a disaster..
Posted by rdhull, Sun Aug-30-15 12:24 PM
like CJ said, the quaity and writing was poor. The performance was awful. He was not doing quality acting such as Blue Collar. And the movie seemed rushe.

I saw that shit in the theater. It was zzzzzz


>aint nobody outdoin rich on his OWN shit...80s 90s 2000s...
>
>
>>"weak" touch.
>>
>>If it were made 5 or especially 10 or 15 years earlier, Jojo
>>dancer could have been in its own world in terms of quality.
>>
>>but...
>>
>>in the mid-80's, film style was kind of thin and bland, and
>>that was evident in the quality of Jojo dancer.
>>
>>
>>Not saying this new movie is a "lock" for having a more
>>substantial quality, but I have lot's of disappointment for
>>films of the 1985 - 1988 era, and Jojo dancer is a prime
>>target of that disappointment, so I'm fine with trying to go
>>past Jojo dancer.
>>
>>
>>
>
12889437, its telling his life story thru his eyes...
Posted by LAbeathustla, Sun Aug-30-15 12:25 PM
who else is gonna tell his life story better???
12889440, Wack is wack
Posted by c71, Sun Aug-30-15 12:27 PM
it was just wack and it has not gained any status with time.
12889442, calll it what you want...no ways mike epps gonna be a better rich
Posted by LAbeathustla, Sun Aug-30-15 12:28 PM
than rich player...anything you get now is suspect at best..rich aint cosignin that shit...
12889472, but on the same accord if eddie is cosigning it it must have smthg
Posted by mikediggz, Sun Aug-30-15 03:33 PM
to it...eddie aint gonna be a part of anything dealing with his hero that aint top notch...i dont thk oprah would sign on with anything richard related unless it was at least well thought out initially either. how that translates to a finished product and or sales in the theater is yet to be seen but something about it has to be decent for eddie especially to sign on
12889444, I get what you are saying....
Posted by rdhull, Sun Aug-30-15 12:36 PM
>>who else is gonna tell his life story better???

I mean he wrote it and its his life

Im just saying it didnt come out too well especially since it was in production etc for years before it was even made/finished.

It was really underwhelming


12889459, point taken
Posted by wluv, Sun Aug-30-15 01:36 PM
i actually get both sides of the argument. At the time Richard did JoJo Dancer, it was after his movie production company was failing and missed opportunities, like passing on Purple Rain, and I think Richard was under pressure to produce a hit, so he did what he knew best and that was to play himself. But as i remember watching it, it did feel a little rushed and thin. None of the characters around him didn't seem to have any depth to them and the storyline seemed kind of thin also. Him catching on fire and having coke parties wasn't anything people didnt already know about Rich and it seem to fall flat.

I actually want to know more about the brothel he came up in, his dad and grandmom, and why they were the way they were. Maybe mention the kid he had at 16 and leaving the mother to chase stardom. His dating Pam Grier and marrying another woman without telling Pam. His manager who stole money from him and had to pay him back. How he started his own moving production company with Jim Brown. His trip to Oakland after he got fired from Las Vegas and being around the movement out there in the late 60s. Or why he stopped trying to emulate Cosby early in his career and decided to become Richard Pryor.

There is a plethora of storylines that JoJo Dancer didn't cover that i think will be very compelling to explore. Rich's life was so much more richer than he was able to show in JoJo Dancer, that he probably couldn't show for budgetary reasons or whatever.

Thats why i expect Lee Daniels and company to do this movie justice and show the real Richard Pryor and all the experiences and flaws that made him a comedic genius.

I remember watching a youtube of a roast they had for Richard in 70s and Rich being the funniest mf at his own roast. That man was such a genius. Unf*ckwitable.
12889463, RE: point taken
Posted by c71, Sun Aug-30-15 01:46 PM
> it did feel a little
>rushed and thin. None of the characters around him didn't
>seem to have any depth to them and the storyline seemed kind
>of thin also. Him catching on fire and having coke parties
>wasn't anything people didnt already know about Rich and it
>seem to fall flat.
>


sounds like yet another co-sign for a man whose opinion is supposedly "trash"


eh?