theaters are beefing up security this weekend, and universal is even offering to foot the bill. SOC is not particularly violent, and gang activity is depicted but doesn't play a major role in it. however, there is a strong anti-police theme throughout. that said, recent theater shootings have had little to do with the content of the film being shown. one was at the dark knight rises, one was at trainwreck. and super violent films debut weekly with no added security measures. so why are we dusting off the riot gear for straight outta compton? tell me how to feel about this, okp.

Poll question: How do we feel about theaters adding extra security for Straight Outta Compton screenings?

Poll result (25 votes) it's a reasonable response to the recent mass theater shootings (1 votes) Vote it's a racist response to the expectation of too many niggaz (several with attitudes) at the theater (22 votes) Vote even though it's clearly not why they're adding security, an SOC screening would be the perfect target for a racist charleston-type shooter, so, yeah, extra security please (1 votes) Vote dj yella (1 votes) Vote

Assuming the security is there to prevent violence and not instigate it...

I remember there being alot of violent incidents at screenings for hip hop orientated movies. Boys in The Hood, Juice.....we had a double murder in a Toronto theatre during the former. Not sure if it was media over-exageration but I remember there was quite a few incidents in the States too. I can only speak for Toronto....but the fact is there was (and is) more violence at hip hop shows than any other genre during that time.

This debate is taking place in Toronto the past week cause we just had two people killed and 3 others shot at the Drake after-party at a club called Muziq. There's been several violent episodes there during hip hop parties and people are suing the club claiming that they have a responsible to heighten security during parties that are more prone to violence (read as hip hop).

I don't know.....it doesn't take a genuis to figure out that there is greater potential of violence at an event in which the content portrays violence. Though that doesn't explain why something like 'Goodfellas' would need more security as well. But I didn't read about shootings at Goodfellas screening. I don't know....I don't have a problem with venues beefing up security for events they deem to be higher risk. I think the statistics justify it. Whether or not they do for films I'm not sure though.

1. don't fall for the bullshit. the issue is NOT that we niggers are so stupid that we'll just reenact the violence we see on the screen b/c we're so impressionable, you know, like little children.

2. the issue is that rival gang members and thugs and dirty drug dealing animals will come out to see the movie and will bring their ghetto beef w/them and will erupt into violence.

3. as if violent niggers don't go see any other movies?

4. as if the most recent violence in movie theaters has had ANYTHING to do w/Black ppl. or Hip-Hop.

5. i wanna see extra security at all rom-coms going forward. b/c that dude shot up Trainwreck.

>1. don't fall for the bullshit. the issue is NOT that we
>niggers are so stupid that we'll just reenact the violence we
>see on the screen b/c we're so impressionable, you know, like
>little children.

I didn't suggest that.

>2. the issue is that rival gang members and thugs and dirty
>drug dealing animals will come out to see the movie and will
>bring their ghetto beef w/them and will erupt into violence.

I'm in full agreement. There's a 99% chance that the Drake afterparty shooting was the result of some dude waiting to settle a score with someone based on some previous grievance. These shootings are rarely a heat of the moment thing. The shooter probably caught wind that his target was attending the party and prepared accordingly. With that established....doesn't that lend itself to the argument that the club SHOULD tighten security for hip hop shows? Knowing that people use these events to settle scores?

>3. as if violent niggers don't go see any other movies?

Hip hop fans don't mean 'black people' to me. But anyways, hip hop fans might go see other films....but during the 1990's, they were more likely to act violently during screenings of New Jack City, Juice and Boys in the Hood.

>4. as if the most recent violence in movie theaters has had
>ANYTHING to do w/Black ppl. or Hip-Hop.

Agreed.

>5. i wanna see extra security at all rom-coms going forward.
>b/c that dude shot up Trainwreck.

I think that's a false equivalency. I'm talking about Boys in the Hood. During the opening weekend there was violence at 20 different movie theaters across the country. These events weren't one-offs like the Batman shooting. Or this Trainwreck thing I didn't hear about. New Jack City and Boyz in the Hood had multiple, non-related, violent events all taking place for the same movie.



I'm not making the same racial distinction as you are. It's not black or white to me.....it's hip hop. White hip hop fans are more likely to act violently at a hip hop show than black indie rock fans at Lollapoloza. The fact is.....there's more violence at hip hop shows than other types of music. And it's worth noting that white people still outnumber black people at most hip hop shows. So I'm not making as much as a racial distinction as you. Relatively speaking, it's a violent, macho art form that attracts violent macho dudes.

Again, I'm not real sure that this argument applies to filmgoers in the same way that it does concert-goers. But I think it did during the 90's. I can talk about this with much more certainty regarding music. If I was a club owner.....I would have more security at a gangster rap concert than I would for a Coldplay concert. You wouldn't?

Whatever, dude.

I guess you're implying that what I said is racist?

I would undoubtedly have tighter security for a gangster rap concert than a Bobby Mcferrin show. Whether or not it translates to movies is another question. I'm saying that in the 90's...it was pretty clear that it DID translate in some cases. Not so sure about now.

I feel like I offended you though. That sucks

You might understand one day.

*shrugs*

But I feel compelled to say that my roommate's brother got murdered at a hip hop show last summer. The shooter was the son of a prominent hip hop dj in Toronto (one of the biggest). The shooter was white, my roommate's brother was black. I don't even know why I'm saying this.....I suppose I'm trying to persuade you that my view is not the result of an underlying racial bigotry. I'm willing to listen and consider why it might be though.

Best of luck. Maybe someone else will come through and break it down.

Can hip-hop as a music genre be violent yes? But not so much then the average heavy metal show, where people have gotten shot/attacked more then a few times(RIP Dimebag). It's not hard to see it as 'Oh shit, too many black people' moment at best since that's the impression the powers at be have for hip-hop shows. Like, in 2015 you've got motherfuckers cancelling hologram hip-hop concerts, lol. Do people get hurt at live shows? Yup. That's cause it's alot of motherfuckers there. It's 2015, hip-hop is pop music. Think about how many hip-hop tours happen a year now (after fighting for decades to change venues minds from thinking the way you do) from Jay-Z, Drake, Kanye, Wu-Tang...and how many of them turn out violent, lol.

I just find this particularly poignant cause last night I went to a venue for a rock show and snuck into the 90's themed hip-hop party they had scheduled afterwards. I walked in with a backpack for the #fffff portion of the evening: I get no pat down and they do a quick flashlight check in my bag enabling me to be a cheap bastard and keep the flask I bought with me.

After they clear out the rock fans I stay for the 90's party. It shouldn't be hard to picture the kind of kids you are gonna find at these kinds of parties; hella flat tops, nerd glasses, cross color knockoffs; two of the servers were playing xbox on the lcd screen behind them in between helping the customers.

The bar I was at was in the front of the 'women's line and it just looked fucked up. I saw women getting patted down so hard it felt like the beginning of worst lesbian porn scene(front pockets, back pockets, breast area, TWO people going through each purse). What made it more egregious is that under 21 were allowed, so you had these grown women latex gloving it up and treating kids that shop at Forever 21 like they were smuggling things into Rikers. Did management feel they were gonna stab up another chick dressed her parents high school days listening to Lyte As a Rock?



>But I feel compelled to say that my roommate's brother got
>murdered at a hip hop show last summer. The shooter was the
>son of a prominent hip hop dj in Toronto (one of the biggest).
> The shooter was white, my roommate's brother was black. I
>don't even know why I'm saying this.....I suppose I'm trying
>to persuade you that my view is not the result of an
>underlying racial bigotry. I'm willing to listen and consider
>why it might be though.

So FOH with hip hop is more violent. G&R has an album cover depiciting a woman getting raped was there an increase in security at their concerts?

Sorry about your friend but he was going to get killed regardless. Why? Because killers kill wheneve they have the opportunity to do so. If it wasn't at show it would have been somewhere else.

Lastly, big difference between one or two people trying to kill each other vs one crazy person trying to kill everybody.

And venues have much tighter security for Guns and Roses concerts than they do for Elton John. Because they're music lends itself to rowdyness and ne'erdowellers. What's the point? It's the same thing that an NWA show should have tighter security than a Tribe Called Quest.

I saw Ice Cube circa 1995 or so (the single at the time was 'wicked') The most violent concert I've ever been to. Cube ended up leaving early after his repeated warnings to stop the fights were ignored. Total shit show.

Held by many f the groups that played that night. In fact more recently a dude raped a chick in plain sight at a country concert-- think they're increasing security at Garth's/Kenny's/Travis's or whoever the fucks country concerts?

This is common practise in rocknroll and hip hop music. They start getting bad press for people trampled, shootings and/or fights breaking out.....they up their security.

I think we're starting to go in circles here. Cheers

>I guess you're implying that what I said is racist?
>
>I would undoubtedly have tighter security for a gangster rap
>concert than a Bobby Mcferrin show. Whether or not it
>translates to movies is another question. I'm saying that in
>the 90's...it was pretty clear that it DID translate in some
>cases. Not so sure about now.
>
>I feel like I offended you though. That sucks

Did they beef up security for Goodfellas, The Untouchables, or Casino. No so get the foh with this bullshit. Use your brain, this is completely racial.

>I remember there being alot of violent incidents at
>screenings for hip hop orientated movies. Boys in The Hood,
>Juice.....we had a double murder in a Toronto theatre during
>the former. Not sure if it was media over-exageration but I
>remember there was quite a few incidents in the States too. I
>can only speak for Toronto....but the fact is there was (and
>is) more violence at hip hop shows than any other genre during
>that time.
>
>This debate is taking place in Toronto the past week cause we
>just had two people killed and 3 others shot at the Drake
>after-party at a club called Muziq. There's been several
>violent episodes there during hip hop parties and people are
>suing the club claiming that they have a responsible to
>heighten security during parties that are more prone to
>violence (read as hip hop).
>
>I don't know.....it doesn't take a genuis to figure out that
>there is greater potential of violence at an event in which
>the content portrays violence. Though that doesn't explain
>why something like 'Goodfellas' would need more security as
>well. But I didn't read about shootings at Goodfellas
>screening. I don't know....I don't have a problem with venues
>beefing up security for events they deem to be higher risk. I
>think the statistics justify it. Whether or not they do for
>films I'm not sure though.


This is not a hip hop show, it's a movie. If you can't see that there is always some sort of excuse why anything associated with black people from the hood should be treated differently than others you are lost. I could see if this was an actual event at a particular venue, but they are talking about beefing security all over the country at movie theaters showing this movie. It's absurd and purely racial prejudice to assume that there will be violence or riots of some sort because of this movie. It just shows how much America actually fears us.

>I remember there being alot of violent incidents at
>screenings for hip hop orientated movies. Boys in The Hood,
>Juice.....we had a double murder in a Toronto theatre during
>the former. Not sure if it was media over-exageration but I
>remember there was quite a few incidents in the States too. I
>can only speak for Toronto....but the fact is there was (and
>is) more violence at hip hop shows than any other genre during
>that time.
>
>This debate is taking place in Toronto the past week cause we
>just had two people killed and 3 others shot at the Drake
>after-party at a club called Muziq. There's been several
>violent episodes there during hip hop parties and people are
>suing the club claiming that they have a responsible to
>heighten security during parties that are more prone to
>violence (read as hip hop).
>
>I don't know.....it doesn't take a genuis to figure out that
>there is greater potential of violence at an event in which
>the content portrays violence. Though that doesn't explain
>why something like 'Goodfellas' would need more security as
>well. But I didn't read about shootings at Goodfellas
>screening. I don't know....I don't have a problem with venues
>beefing up security for events they deem to be higher risk. I
>think the statistics justify it. Whether or not they do for
>films I'm not sure though.

Go figure

releases.

>

dumb asses on here too busy looking for an enemy to notice.

i dont have time for the rah rah fuck the yt man shit
and they dont wanna hear it
and my comments piss them off
fuck em

shits a waste of fucking energy
you already KNOW what they gon do, they been doing it forever

the funniest part to me is
we spend all this time talking about how corrupt, unfair, unjust, and biased the yt man is

THEN expect that same corrupt, unfair, unjust, and biased yt person to somehow have a heart and make things right

the expectation is a hilariously sad cycle

cut out the middle man and stop worrying about them
leave them the fuck alone
fuck them

I went to KOD in Miami. Security looked like Checkpoint Charlie.
You are first greeted by two dudes with AR-15s. Then get a vigorous pat down at the door. Finally you get swept by a metal detector wand.
Meanwhile across town you can just walk in free and clear, no hassle.

What up with that? Is it racism?
No, it's using historical evidence to predict the likelihood of something popping off.

KOD is frequented by folks who are about that life. Get a few people like that together and chances are something violent will happen.

The customers at the club across town are not the same as KOD's and thus they don't have the same concerns.
Random violence is equally likely at both places. But predictable violence is not.

The same story holds true (to a much lesser extent) for SOC.
The audience for this movie is a lot different than other movies. And I'm not talking about black folks.
They don't beef up security for Madea movies or Best Man Holiday.

The probability of getting the wrong people together in one theater is much higher for SOC than your typical movie (even your typical black movie).
For your ordinary movie Mike from gang A probably won't be seeing it at same time as Dave from gang B. Not true for SOC.

In the event of an altercation, are they just gonna start shooting in a crowd of 100s or even 1,000s of people? Sounds like a place I don't want to be.

Every bouncer that I knew was strapped either had a semi-auto on his waist (agent or off-duty cop) or concealed, and it was less about crowd control and more about the dudes that get booted and want to come back with the heat.

But yes, if I remember correctly the level of security between even those two clubs was a lot different

across the street wit across town

Those take place in inherently high crime areas so obviously the clubs, in addition to the local chinese food spots with industrial strength bullet proof glass, will have higher security measures.

>The same story holds true (to a much lesser extent) for SOC.
>The audience for this movie is a lot different than other
>movies. And I'm not talking about black folks.
>They don't beef up security for Madea movies or Best Man
>Holiday.

Here's the issue. I have no problem with a hood movie theater having more security; many already do (see the chinese food scenario above). However the idea that thug niggas is gonna hop in their impalas and mass invade local yt movie theaters waiting to settle gang beef is racist.

Plus there's also the fact that for some reason people think NWA is going to be this major flashpoint of gang violence which I never understood. There's been 'gangster' rap biopics/documentaries before and no problem. It's just funny to me that the recent movie violence events that have been pretty much a white issue is suddenly about us and 'those niggas from the block', lol.

>However the idea that thug niggas is gonna
>hop in their impalas and mass invade local yt movie theaters
>waiting to settle gang beef is racist.

Just the ones that need/desire it.
Universal is only going to assist in the security costs.
So a theater isn't going to come out of pocket unless it feels it has a reason to.

Deep suburbia is not going to have extra security at SOC.

>Just the ones that need/desire it.
>Universal is only going to assist in the security costs.
>So a theater isn't going to come out of pocket unless it feels
>it has a reason to.
>
>Deep suburbia is not going to have extra security at SOC.

Why would the movie theater have to pay for extra security when Universal Pictures is going to provide the security for the movie theaters?

>Plus there's also the fact that for some reason people think
>NWA is going to be this major flashpoint of gang violence
>which I never understood.

right? LOL

anyway, w/o having seen the movie i don't expect it would incite violence.

i have not ever seen any movie that i thought WOULD incite violence, btw. i don't even know what that means or how that would go down.

Security isn't deep at Lil Boosie concerts because of his violent lyrics

i know.

white folks who were teenagers when they bought the NWA albums.

The film's box office tracking is reflecting that. It's being reported as "over performing", but it's movie about NW-fucking-A, not (no offense) X-Clan or anybody who isn't so deeply embedded into pop culture history.

Sure, a lot of young black folks will see it, but was added security an issue for the obteenbillion Kevin Hart pictures that came out this year and last? Or any other films with young black male appeal, few and far between though they may be?

Unless there was a foreseen issue, it's racist and, frankly, should have been left up to the discretion of the theater owners instead of Universal themselves helping pay for it.

Besides, this soon after the wake of yet another mass theater shooting (at a lily-white Amy Schumer picture, at that!), _all_ security should be beefed up at the theaters, and not just for the "colored movie".

Been to the movie theater like three times in the past decade.

is it bad id actually feel safer at SOC than any other random release?

but that was in the 90's.

33 people injured, 1 killed across the nation when Boyz in the Hood premiered in 1991.
1 killed, big riot in LA when a theater sold out, dozens injured when New Jack City came out in 1991.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/history-of-violence-in-movie-theaters-dark-knight-rises-353769

I take that as more of a sign of the 90's though. Trying to link it to current mass shootings (which are largely random) is bogus.

But I can't say the thought that "Man, I hope our folks don't act a fool this weekend" hasn't crossed my mind.

With the recent debate about how destructive their impact was on the Black community

And by that i mean im mildly interested. I have no desire to actually do this.

Okay.

we aren't going tonight, tomorrow or Sunday anywhere locally. we're in a safe mostly Asian/white community but it's LA county so niggas will pack out theaters this weekend

we're either going in Pasadena over the weekend or after work Monday by the crib

>we aren't going tonight, tomorrow or Sunday anywhere locally.
>we're in a safe mostly Asian/white community but it's LA
>county so niggas will pack out theaters this weekend
>
>we're either going in Pasadena over the weekend or after work
>Monday by the crib

Afraid of your own people I see. At least you're not afraid to say it. SMH

And maybe not even afraid-- just not about that life.

>And maybe not even afraid-- just not about that life.

Yeah... I don't think most people are afraid of their own people to just be around them... lol. People like this are merely cowards and most likely think the same things about black people that racist white people think. I'm never afraid of other black people, what someone else can do I can do the same. I might be a lil more less fearful because I do come from a real hood in L.A. but at the same time, be a Man, you should be fearful of nobody. He's feeding into the idea that black people can't control themselves. This is sickening to me.

I understand where duke is coming from. I am from a block but when it comes to movies, I am coo off watching it where all the niggaz going to be. I don't want no wil'n, yellin, can't hear the damn movie moment and I don't need to bring my girl around that shit. I paid my monies my G.

People like this are
>merely cowards and most likely think the same things about
>black people that racist white people think. I'm never afraid
>of other black people, what someone else can do I can do the
>same. I might be a lil more less fearful because I do come
>from a real hood in L.A. but at the same time, be a Man, you
>should be fearful of nobody. He's feeding into the idea that
>black people can't control themselves. This is sickening to
>me.

Im from Harlem, there were certain blocks I knew to be aware of that I would walk just a little bit faster through

I lived in North Philly 3 years. I havent lived anywhere in LA worse than that, but I've been on guard taking the bus down Crenshaw, Manchester and Figueroa at different times.

I wouldnt drive through a racist stretch of a highway down south at night

I see police officers in my safe suburbs and Im on guard

you call it fearful, I call it taking precaution ahead of time. I like to feel safe as possible at all times. I dont know what to tell you if you cant grasp that idea.

>Im from Harlem, there were certain blocks I knew to be aware
>of that I would walk just a little bit faster through

Ok so you are hood... well it was never safe to walk to the store where I grew up in Athens Park but guess what I still did it with precaution. You know that danger is present so you tread lightly doesn't mean your scared of your people but you know what can happen. Now if you are avoiding the walk altogether out of fear or you take some long ass detour to avoid any possible drama then most likely that would make you a coward in my eyes.

>I lived in North Philly 3 years. I havent lived anywhere in LA
>worse than that, but I've been on guard taking the bus down
>Crenshaw, Manchester and Figueroa at different times.

Unless you bang in L.A. or you look like a walking lick you don't really have to be on guard like that.

>I wouldnt drive through a racist stretch of a highway down
>south at night

That's smart they wanna kill you, they are not your people.

>I see police officers in my safe suburbs and Im on guard

You should be... they're killing black people left and right. and they don't care about you just because you live in that neigborhood.

>you call it fearful, I call it taking precaution ahead of
>time. I like to feel safe as possible at all times. I dont
>know what to tell you if you cant grasp that idea.

Precaution that the gangbangers are gonna wreak havoc over the city because of a movie release. You sound like a scared lil white girl.

>>Im from Harlem, there were certain blocks I knew to be aware
>>of that I would walk just a little bit faster through

>Ok so you are hood...

wrong.


>>you call it fearful, I call it taking precaution ahead of
>>time. I like to feel safe as possible at all times. I dont
>>know what to tell you if you cant grasp that idea.

>Precaution that the gangbangers are gonna wreak havoc over the
>city because of a movie release. You sound like a scared lil
>white girl.

you typed that to me on the internet

>
>>>Im from Harlem, there were certain blocks I knew to be
>aware
>>>of that I would walk just a little bit faster through
>
>>Ok so you are hood...
>
>wrong.

Oh so Harlem is not the hood. Ok. And you mentioned living in North Philly and riding buses thru Crenshaw for what reason?

>>>you call it fearful, I call it taking precaution ahead of
>>>time. I like to feel safe as possible at all times. I dont
>>>know what to tell you if you cant grasp that idea.
>
>>Precaution that the gangbangers are gonna wreak havoc over
>the
>>city because of a movie release. You sound like a scared lil
>>white girl.
>
>you typed that to me on the internet

You're right I did. Still it doesn't negate the truth.

>>
>>>>Im from Harlem, there were certain blocks I knew to be
>>aware
>>>>of that I would walk just a little bit faster through
>>
>>>Ok so you are hood...
>>
>>wrong.
>
>Oh so Harlem is not the hood. Ok. And you mentioned living in
>North Philly and riding buses thru Crenshaw for what reason?
>
>>>>you call it fearful, I call it taking precaution ahead of
>>>>time. I like to feel safe as possible at all times. I dont
>>>>know what to tell you if you cant grasp that idea.
>>
>>>Precaution that the gangbangers are gonna wreak havoc over
>>the
>>>city because of a movie release. You sound like a scared
>lil
>>>white girl.
>>
>>you typed that to me on the internet
>
>You're right I did. Still it doesn't negate the truth.

that you're an idiot? I agree

Cool

the only time I've been to court was for a jaywalking ticket
I've never been behind bars
excluding police officers and armed security I've seen less than 10 guns in person
I lived around a lot of shit that didnt represent me

>the only time I've been to court was for a jaywalking ticket
>I've never been behind bars
>excluding police officers and armed security I've seen less
>than 10 guns in person
>I lived around a lot of shit that didnt represent me

^^ There's plenty of guys that are hood in your same predicament champ. What you're saying means shit. Being hood is subjective and is not a good or bad thing but it can be a good or bad thing. Being hood could mean that you understand loyalty and will protect your brothers under any circumstance. Being hood could mean you like to talk some particular way. Being hood could mean you have a particular way of thinking which could lead you to potential harm. It could mean a plethora of things.

And actually sir I didn't say that I was hood. Please re-read my reply. My reply was actually in response to another gentleman trying to explain YOUR thinking. I was stating that my thoughts may differ to yours Maybe due to my upbringing in a real hood in L.A. around things that do not represent ME as well. Assuming by your response that you had not lived in any of the places in which you have stated. That may have been the wrong assumption but that is what I assumed. Now my whole point of all this was that you can grow up around these things and not be afraid of them. You can see a gang banger or thug or "hood guy" on the street and not be afraid because you know that they are regular human beings just like you. Your replies have pretty much confirmed my assumptions of you in the first place.

I want you to know that I am a Father of 3 children with a BA in psych. working on a law degree. My statement about growing up in a real hood was by no means a way of stating I was gangster, hood or whatever you want to call it. I'm just not afraid of my people and that was my explanation as to why I was not afraid. Thank you for your time.

and you'll say "OH, that's why he said that"

But seriously I can understand why he feels that way. I live in Torrance/Redondo Beach and the theaters here are the closest to the hood, so there is cause for concern that it could get violent cause like atruehead said it's gonna be packed with fools from all over L.A. Given the current climate with gang violence there could be an issue.

the whole city is gonna be TOO active this weekend, this is the biggest LA movie probably since Menace and Boyz In The Hood (unless Friday was an instant sensation)

especially with them expanding the mall in 2 months, we might be more popping than Fox Hills for a few months. I wont be there the weekend it opens, somebody is guaranteed to fight

They're aren't going to let that new mall get ruined. They want that PV/Redondo Beach/Manhattan Beach rich white folk money.

>and you'll say "OH, that's why he said that"

Preach

Lol

cause i aint going to see that shit

For any form of security. This has always been the case. I don't go to clubs that play that shit and I certainly wouldn't go to a movie that was doing it.

Wouldn't they have beefed up security at Tyler Perry movies?

Let's face it. Alot of gang members are gonna see this movie. And yes, gang members go see normal movies too.....but I contend they have a different frame of mind attending a movie about NWA than they do when attending a rom-com with a girl they're dating. It's a macho thing and people will act macho at this film. It will be an event at which to be seen.....and men will attend in large groups without female companions. As already shown....it was a real thing in the 90's. Gang members went to non-gang related movies then too......but it was the gang-oriented flicks when shit went down. Its a time to show out for some of these idiots and that's what they'll do. And if/when it happens, anyone who thinks it's somehow representative of black people are idiots.

Edit: When I say 'gang member' I should probably be more precise. They don't necessarily have to be attached to an established gang. I'm really just talking about violent people with criminal tendencies. This movie will be alluring to them. And some of them will use it as opportunity to display their thug. I find it troubling that people interpret that contention as being racist.

>Wouldn't they have beefed up security at Tyler Perry movies?
>
Now that I added males to my statement the answer to this should be clear. Did men attend TP movies yes, but with SO's and of a certain age/demographic. However if TP's movies had any sort of anti police/anti white supremacy tone-- then guess what?


>Let's face it. Alot of gang members are gonna see this movie.

Feelings. A lot of white kids are going to see it more than any other group and do you know who shoots up places the most effectively? White kids.

> And yes, gang members go see normal movies too.....but I
>contend they have a different frame of mind attending a movie
>about NWA than they do when attending a rom-com with a girl
>they're dating. It's a macho thing and people will act macho
>at this film. It will be an event at which to be seen.....

Feelings not facts, but that's ok. Just don't state them like they're gospel.


>men will attend in large groups without female companions.

I think I can stop here. This is the raw nerve of white fear/supremacy and what you and many others are afraid of. Not the violence per se but the men, because *drumroll* 40% of whites believe black men to be more violent.

You somehow think the violence will affect "you" because it's highly unlikely that your sitting there thinking "gosh I hope these black people don't hurt each other" and that's kind of bizarre.


>already shown....it was a real thing in the 90's. Gang
>members went to non-gang related movies then too......but it
>was the gang-oriented flicks when shit went down. Its a time
>to show out for some of these idiots and that's what they'll
>do. And if/when it happens, anyone who thinks it's somehow
>representative of black people are idiots.

There are ways to mitigate this without using stormtroopers.


>Edit: When I say 'gang member' I should probably be more
>precise. They don't necessarily have to be attached to an
>established gang. I'm really just talking about violent
>people with criminal tendencies. This movie will be alluring
>to them.

Again-- feelings.

And some of them will use it as opportunity to
>display their thug. I find it troubling that people interpret
>that contention as being racist.

You're already using the code words though, whether or not you're coming across as racist is irrelevant, because racist or not your comments are still irrational so either way...

I think acts of violence are likely at this movie premeire. Just like they are at drunken tailgate parties. Which is why I understand why people may up security for events like that.

^You are whatever feeling led you to type that.

I'm not using 'men' as a euphemism for 'black men'. A hells' angel dude who gets drunk with a bunch of fellow bikers so they can all go to Altamont music festival is more likely to get involved in violent behaviour than when he takes his mom out for dinner. The reason I make that argument is to counter the point Sowhat first made about criminals attending Jurassic Park without shooting....so why would SOC be different.


I'm kinda sick of trying to show that I'm not talking about race. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. You don't think it's likely that violence will potentially break out at Straight outta Compton screenings. I'm not sure. I think it certainly was true of the 90's....not sure about now. If that makes me a racist in your eyes....well, that makes me feel shitty but it is what it is. I'm trying to search my feelings.....I don't think there is an underlying bigotry in my perception.

It's ok man. You're not the guy keeping folks from getting jobs or better homes and schools.

off the fucking chain

in Detroit.

See....Boyz n da hood and Menace had extremely emotional endings that could even spark someone in the crowd to feel like "man, fuck them niggas" and get charged up in some way. With this movie, it would NOT at all incite Negroes to act up, and if so, it would be against the cops, because they purposely bias it to make you feel like "fuck killing each other, they hate the fuck out of us!!!"

Of course, hood dudes will want to see the movie, and just having them in the same theater is a gamble. But I don't think this will lead to them wanting to fight or shoot as those 90's movies did...at least that's my hope. This COULD even calm down the whole "100 days 100 nights" shit somehow, which would be amazing if it did.

you really think that's so?

Boyz and Menace just had some true emotional endings, along with showing everything else that was really going on. They both end on a depressing note, which could somehow affect folks who are actually dealing with the same shit. Compare that to Friday, which could bring the exact same audience, but not a single person would leave with that same type of mindframe.

Boyz/Menace were two and four years before Friday, and I didn't even hear as much about fights/shootings happening after Menace, but I can just imagine Boyz being a combo of everything bad. It was before the Riots, and dealt with true Red/Blue issues. That, plus having active ass gang members all in the same theater to see it, is a bad combo of things, which is why there were several fights and 1-2 shootings.

So I'm not at all saying it was directly bc of the movie, but I can see it playing a part depending on who's there. I have seen almost every L.A. movie since Baby Boy in the theaters, and yeah, folks will really yell out shit during the movie, based on what's going on. Even Drumline had me dead...they said "you will wear white tees, and you will be called crabs." This Crip dude yelled out "WHAT? FUCK THIS SHIT, CUZZZ!!!!!!!" Everyone just laughed, but imagine somebody sayin "FUCK CRABS!!" right after that...yeah. It's all dumb as shit but possible.

>in Detroit.
>
>See....Boyz n da hood and Menace had extremely emotional
>endings that could even spark someone in the crowd to feel
>like "man, fuck them niggas" and get charged up in some way.
>With this movie, it would NOT at all incite Negroes to act up,
>and if so, it would be against the cops, because they
>purposely bias it to make you feel like "fuck killing each
>other, they hate the fuck out of us!!!"
>
>Of course, hood dudes will want to see the movie, and just
>having them in the same theater is a gamble. But I don't think
>this will lead to them wanting to fight or shoot as those 90's
>movies did...at least that's my hope. This COULD even calm
>down the whole "100 days 100 nights" shit somehow, which would
>be amazing if it did.


This right here is why I think the added security is not the right move. Because if this movie will get people to feel some type of way about law enforcement, then when people are leaving the theater and they see the show of force there, tempers may flare, words get exchanged and then there goes a riot.

Because the last few mass theater shootings have all involved white people.

I don't really feel like the movie sparks violence, it's the people going to see them. Now if there is a reason to believe that violence with theaters in certain areas are involved (heavy gang activity) then shouldn't those areas always have heightened security? Them cats are going to see other popular movies too.

Kinda reeks of "Niggas packed in to see a nigga ass movie" to me. Damn shame we can't have shit involving us without extra security.


On another note, when was the last time this has happened with a movie release? Other than Boyz and Menace?

>Because the last few mass theater shootings have all involved
>white people.

amen.

>I don't really feel like the movie sparks violence, it's the
>people going to see them. Now if there is a reason to believe
>that violence with theaters in certain areas are involved
>(heavy gang activity) then shouldn't those areas always have
>heightened security? Them cats are going to see other popular
>movies too.

right. like niggas didn't go see Jurassic World?? Avatar? The Avengers??? where was the extra security for those? where were the gang fights and shootings?

>Kinda reeks of "Niggas packed in to see a nigga ass movie" to
>me. Damn shame we can't have shit involving us without extra
>security.

hello.

Now that's all kinda fucked up!

What else are they doing now?

Most likely.

Now if it was Tyler Perry's "The Gift"
They might have been checking for Weapons... or drugs... or hot wings.

>What else are they doing now?

>

lol

I aint hitting any theaters in the hood though. Trying to find some empty spots

handing out fliers encouraging people to not see the movie.

stupid New York accents and all

I don't think anyone is thinking about mass shootings when Black people go out to see a "hood" movie.

you know, the thing that movie theater owners are concerned about as related to Straight Outta Compton.

Crenshaw?
its prolly sold out all weekend
fuckin lit

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No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public. (c) HL Mencken or some other motherfucker.

it's showtimes like every 30 mins
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No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public. (c) HL Mencken or some other motherfucker.

>Crenshaw?
>its prolly sold out all weekend
>fuckin lit

No real reason not to unless you don't like large crowds cause it will be packed.

"reimbursing" theaters for security? On some "haha I know how these niggas are. sorry for the inconvenience." Fuck the entire movie.