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12859719, why do men rap about fucking other 'niggas' bitches'?
Posted by Kwesi, Wed Dec-31-69 07:00 PM
is that really some behavior that we should be celebrating?

has a man ever taken a woman away from you?

is there any room for #pleaseniggadonttakemybitch??

you read it here first.

...

new idea, maybe it's a warning to niggas everywhere.

your bitch is getting fucked.

whether you like, or even know about it.

like for real, that side thing, whose life you come in and out of.

there is a real chance that there's a nigga a across town that is in pieces because she aint calling him back.

and it's because of you.

:(

what a downer.

ok. im done.

Poll question: why do men rap about fucking other 'niggas' bitches'?

Poll result (7 votes)
put it in the same bucket as all the rap about bitches and hoes. they dont really mean it. (1 votes)Vote
i think these niggas really are fucking other niggas' bitches, that's despicable. (0 votes)Vote
cause nigga, i take your bitch! fuck you gonna do about it?! (5 votes)Vote
man, i need me a bitch! (1 votes)Vote

  

12859723, i voted: cause nigga, i take your bitch! fuck you gonna do about it?!
Posted by Kwesi, Tue Jul-21-15 07:41 PM
for the record.
12859725, only in rap music?
Posted by Kwesi, Tue Jul-21-15 07:42 PM
12859739, it isnt a neccesarily new trend in rap but ive notice the increase in references
Posted by decaturpsalm, Tue Jul-21-15 07:58 PM
towards fucking someone else chick

"i fucked your bitch in gucci flip flops"
"if I smoke with your bitch and its over with"
etc

it seems like thats the most popular type of braggadocio
in rap right now
12859746, but whose bitch he talkin about? his friends? do they assume he's
Posted by Kwesi, Tue Jul-21-15 08:01 PM
making it up?

is this tour action?
12859750, I noticed 50 Cent mention this on Jalen & Jacoby last week.
Posted by Nodima, Tue Jul-21-15 08:05 PM
I definitely think it's a trend that was kicked into high gear when Curren$y and Wiz Khalifa sparked off, they were/are always going on about other people's bitches. Or maybe it's Fabolous' fault, but I can't say that you really hear his influence in anyone other than maybe Big Sean, who's definitely out there stealing bitches. Trey Songz has also been calling himself Mr. Steal Yo Girl forever and made it a mainstay in pop-R&B.

but I mentioned 50 Cent because I can't believe that 50 never kicked a line about stealing somebody's girl and yet he acted so disappointed in the current scene for sinking to that level. I just couldn't build up the motivation to spend an hour or two listening to prime suspects in his catalog.

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"This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz
12859787, Uh, Fif GRIMEY....
Posted by Kira, Tue Jul-21-15 08:55 PM
... He stole a dude's chick, RIP, that was signed to his label. This is an alleged tattedup reference.
12859752, while we're #talkingaboutit, other favorite trend that has ALWAYS been
Posted by Nodima, Tue Jul-21-15 08:08 PM
around is changing lanes.

I even tried to start a tongue-in-cheek list about it where I'd overanalyze the motivations behind the lines, but i let it fall off for a long time and then when I tried to bring it back recently I just didn't have the writer's motivation to add many more and now it's starting to rot again.

https://rateyourmusic.com/list/Nodima/the_art_of_changing_lanes/

~~~~~~~~~
"This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz
12859760, i like this write-up.
Posted by Kwesi, Tue Jul-21-15 08:24 PM
12859753, I'll take your bitch on the real! (c) Future
Posted by Atillah Moor, Tue Jul-21-15 08:10 PM
truth be told I was wondering too. I think it's the genre's version of kicking sand in a guy's face knowing he won't do much and as a result look silly in front of any woman or women he might be with.

It's more efficient too-- skip the whole sand kicking part and go straight to take the girl.

see also: I stole your girl while you were in prison.
12860029, ^ this whole board celebrated that verse.
Posted by Kwesi, Wed Jul-22-15 09:41 AM
was future just keeping it real? a g?

and now, in this post, everybody typing about 'eww.'
12859765, it's a thing of pride and prowess
Posted by atruhead, Tue Jul-21-15 08:35 PM
but if another man had her she wasnt really yours to begin with

Im most offended when a dude tries it knowing she's spoken for.

it may have stung to know women I was into were still doing numbers, but if we didnt have a committed agreement then all rules were off
12859797, >but if another man had her she wasnt really yours to begin with
Posted by Kwesi, Tue Jul-21-15 09:07 PM
this is foolishness!

women are not commodities.

they belong to god and the heavens and nature.

she is not yours to own.
12859798, but if a nigga fucks your bitch, are you necessarily slippin?
Posted by Kwesi, Tue Jul-21-15 09:09 PM
or is she more-than-likely trippin?

also, is there a distinction between 'take' and 'fuck'

im asking you, specifically. i feel like you got insight on this.

... you dog, you.
12859923, LMBAO!
Posted by NoDrawls McGraw, Wed Jul-22-15 08:18 AM
>or is she more-than-likely trippin?
>
>also, is there a distinction between 'take' and 'fuck'
>
>im asking you, specifically. i feel like you got insight on
>this.

Dude,.....LOL.
12861078, lol, yeah...you see that?
Posted by Dstl1, Wed Jul-22-15 05:56 PM
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12861088, Yep...
Posted by NoDrawls McGraw, Wed Jul-22-15 06:07 PM
Ninja threw a shadow shuriken on the slick...



12859769, gospel from Juvenile
Posted by atruhead, Tue Jul-21-15 08:40 PM
you could fuck my bitch
lemme fuck yo bitch
I dont luh dat bitch
I dont trust dat bitch

(repeast a few times)

my bitch is yo bitch
my bitch is yo bitch
yo bitch is my bitch
12859860, I done fixed these bitches house up and had them living swell
Posted by csuave03, Wed Jul-22-15 01:01 AM
yet and still a nigga like me was eating at Taco Bell

and

I ain't gone lie, if my ole lady leave a nigga, I'm sick
But fuck it, we ain't married, so she ain't got nothing to get

and

You can have an ole' lady
But them hoes
They for everybody

Let her go dog, that ain't ya ho dog
12859999, Let's say I'm in a room with a bitch and the ho don't wan' fuck
Posted by Overqualified, Wed Jul-22-15 09:18 AM
Like a man I'ma beat my meat and get my fuckin' nut - fa'sho'
She gonna be drove then
And I'ma cut the TV off and go to sleep on that ho then

"Blessed Be The Juve..."

*closes Bible*
12859770, I'll take her but then return her, not to worry
Posted by ConcreteCharlie, Tue Jul-21-15 08:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9XP6F0d97A
12859784, R Kelly has a song for this post
Posted by csuave03, Tue Jul-21-15 08:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rwzt3pVRFM

'The truth is we don't even regret it'

Who did he write this for? Did the intended subject listen to the song?
12859801, show of power. niggas been taking other niggas shit since the beginning
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Tue Jul-21-15 09:19 PM
12859803, I feel like Juicy J is somehow responsible
Posted by bezel021, Tue Jul-21-15 09:26 PM
For the influx of rappers "fuckin other niggas bitches" in the last few years
12859810, It started here...
Posted by BlackLex, Tue Jul-21-15 09:45 PM
https://youtu.be/e1KnK9-rPsc

His influence is undeniable.
12860062, You can't be serious. The fat nigga in the sugar hill gang was rappin bout
Posted by placee_22, Wed Jul-22-15 09:57 AM
taking cats girls, specifically Superman's girl if I recall correctly.

Blues cats was singing bout taking yo girl before they had recording devices.
12860068, is this something that only appears in 'black' music?
Posted by Kwesi, Wed Jul-22-15 09:59 AM
12860201, I don't think it's ONLY in Black music, but surely more prevalent there
Posted by placee_22, Wed Jul-22-15 10:59 AM
I bet some historian can trace this back to slavery and how sexual prowess was the only tool Black men had to exhibit power or something.
12860213, interesting. you trying to say wasn't no smart niggas back inna day?
Posted by Kwesi, Wed Jul-22-15 11:03 AM
12860234, Absolutely not, but smart niggas that showed it...
Posted by placee_22, Wed Jul-22-15 11:12 AM
were the ones that got kilt 1st.
12859816, Gotta Have Faith (c) George Makaveli
Posted by imcvspl, Tue Jul-21-15 09:58 PM

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Big PEMFin H & z's
"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." � Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."
12859819, RE: why do men rap about fucking other 'niggas' bitches'?
Posted by double 0, Tue Jul-21-15 10:06 PM
Lil B was a genius....

having fans actually screaming.. "fuck my bitch... lil B"

Genius
12859822, I don't fuck nobody bitch, and never owned a Jacob (c) 3 Stacks.
Posted by JFrost1117, Tue Jul-21-15 10:43 PM
That said, my (least) "favorite" topic/line from this "fuck love" generation is the mandate that a chick has to fuck a nigga's whole squad.

"We ain't fuckin withcu hoe, unless you do the posse" (c) Trap Squad
12859832, IM TYRONE!!
Posted by now or never, Tue Jul-21-15 11:09 PM

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No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public. (c) HL Mencken or some other motherfucker.
12859833, vital part of ''nana-nana-na'' rap. shit's so retarded.
Posted by 2.tears.in.a.bucket, Tue Jul-21-15 11:12 PM
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12859858, I think the real winners here are the women
Posted by Fire1986, Wed Jul-22-15 12:52 AM
They're quietly introducing polygamy by using the masculine ego against men.
12859868, The God also explained this long ago
Posted by csuave03, Wed Jul-22-15 02:39 AM
Sprayed him, he said he was gonna do what
Played him, MC Grand Pooh-Butt
Stole his lady, and drove her crazy
You asked me why, cause her man tried to play me
I sent her back a nervous wreck
And tried to put her back in check
My speciality is mastering the female species
I specialize in her, until she sees
Where I come from and why I came
I tame the train til she manifest my name
12859892, I don't get why they brag about hitting my leftovers.
Posted by kingjerm78, Wed Jul-22-15 07:07 AM
Unless she topping you off and I'm not getting that at home.
12860186, I think that's usually the implication tho, no?
Posted by placee_22, Wed Jul-22-15 10:53 AM
>Unless she topping you off and I'm not getting that at home.

12859893, cause MANY dudes do this frfr....
Posted by Calico, Wed Jul-22-15 07:15 AM
...they get at women that they know are married or taken JUST to see if she gon got for it....and many do....

same goes for women who do it to married men....
12859894, It's some sucker shit...today's Hiphop celebrates a lot of lame shit
Posted by gumz, Wed Jul-22-15 07:16 AM
12859900, I thought it was lame when it was Pac, Big, and Faith.
Posted by soulfunk, Wed Jul-22-15 07:54 AM
12859911, i put my dick in her after you... i win?
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Jul-22-15 08:08 AM
it really is some ass backward shit.

but we take pride in it.

12859917, few things better then pussy that aint yours.
Posted by Binlahab, Wed Jul-22-15 08:13 AM
hell yeah ive taken em. she wasnt his shes her own person, & wanted me.

also had em tooken.

live long enough & pretty much everything happens


does it really matter?

wonder what bin's doing?
http://i.imgur.com/phECCMp.jpg
12859925, even the best players get dunked on
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed Jul-22-15 08:21 AM
12859947, its a power thing.
Posted by tariqhu, Wed Jul-22-15 08:38 AM
like the bully at the court leaving with someone else's ball. I've never had it happen to me and haven't done it to anyone.
12859992, RE: why do men rap about fucking other 'niggas' bitches'?
Posted by astroman71, Wed Jul-22-15 09:16 AM
At least on "I'm The Type of Guy", LL came with superior game to the other man and had to woo the chick in question...

You're the type of guy that gets suspicious
I'm the type of guy that says, "The puddin is delicious"

12860002, true, fucking other 'bitches' bitches' would be more impressive
Posted by Cenario, Wed Jul-22-15 09:20 AM
12860014, What's worst is rapper rapping about fucking YO Bitch.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Wed Jul-22-15 09:30 AM
I have always thought it a strange feature of Hip-hop where we actively listen to music that talks down to us. Our favorite songs involve dudes telling us that they are richer than you and that they can pull more chicks than you, including your girl.

I wonder if that takes a toll on us as listeners?


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson


"One of the most important things in life is what Judge Learned Hand described as 'that ever-gnawing inner doubt as to whether you're
12860023, precisely. and if not the 'listener's bitch'? whose bitch is it?
Posted by Kwesi, Wed Jul-22-15 09:38 AM
his pals bitches?

bitches from eleventh grade?

is this a work of fiction?
12860038, i think i'm really curious as to what goes through the listeners mind.
Posted by Kwesi, Wed Jul-22-15 09:44 AM
do you tune it out?

like white people and the n-word?

convince yourselves he's not talking about me and MY bitch?

do you put yourself in the rappers shoes?

if so, whose bitches you talking about?
12860189, this
Posted by Cenario, Wed Jul-22-15 10:54 AM
do you put yourself in the rappers shoes?
12860223, I used to honestly think rappers could fuck ANYONE'S girl
Posted by -DJ R-Tistic-, Wed Jul-22-15 11:10 AM
Like in Middle/High School, I figured that if any Top 30 rapper tried to fuck your girl (at that time, it coulda been anybody from BONE, all the way down to fuckin BG Knoccout or Drama), they would win.

Same way I thought rappers could pull ANY girl they wanted, even if they were just local with a few radio songs.
12860231, it's not the listener though. kind of
Posted by bearfield, Wed Jul-22-15 11:12 AM
i always thought of it as rappers talking down to some imagined person of the herb persuasion. something like a non-corporeal and featureless avatar on which to shit upon so they feel better about themselves. or "you" is just a mechanism that rappers use to brag about the various things they do at a high skill level. or a combination of the two. i'm not really sure

you're not wrong btw. it's a really weird feature of rap that fans have been inoculated against. it just seems normal to us but i bet it's super off-putting to outsiders
12860252, we identify with the rappers as far as looking up to, emulating
Posted by Cenario, Wed Jul-22-15 11:18 AM
admiring their status. so even though you not a drug pushing, illegal gun toting, yo chick slaying dude...you admire the rebellious, say/what I want attitude and relate to the rappers perspective in that way.

Rap is boasting art form, and a part of boasting is comparing what you have or skills against others. it doesn't have to be someone specific. So when a rapper says i'm the nicest nigga in the game..he's not dissing others.

Just like when he says i'm effing your chick in your crib..he's not talking bout 'yo' chick lol
12860442, you think it's okay for rap to carry such a terrible tone & message.
Posted by Kwesi, Wed Jul-22-15 12:42 PM
is it a necessary part of the 'art'?

should we support it?
12861070, I have no problem with it
Posted by Cenario, Wed Jul-22-15 05:51 PM
Why should i?


Especially at this point, that's not what most hip hop is about.
12860484, It's started that way. It was about the mythical "Sucker MC"
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Wed Jul-22-15 12:59 PM
but at some point the sucker MC kind of disappear and the rappers started addressing the listener themselves.

I will let the more knowledgable music heads point to lyrics and the shift. I think it happened around the diddy era.


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson


"One of the most important things in life is what Judge Learned Hand described as 'that ever-gnawing inner doubt as to whether you're
12861050, this is the most explicitly flagrant, and not one 'sucker mc' trope
Posted by Kwesi, Wed Jul-22-15 05:31 PM
to be found: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8hzJpeRLG0
12861054, Mayne. Ever read lyrics before hearing the song like I just did?
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Wed Jul-22-15 05:36 PM
It makes it all the more worst.

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson


"One of the most important things in life is what Judge Learned Hand described as 'that ever-gnawing inner doubt as to whether you're
12861093, if you're listening to a rapper their rhymes are supposed to resonate
Posted by SHAstayhighalways, Wed Jul-22-15 06:12 PM
with you as a listener.
most people listen to rappers in an aspirational light at the very least
and as counterparts at best
it's a major reason why women can listen to rappers talk about bitches and hoes
and not feel like they're being talked about
if your 'self of steam' is in order and you KNOW you're not what the rapper is talking about
its very easy to over look the sentiment and enjoy the lyrics for what they are
a rapper bragging about their lifestyle.
12860134, would you blame your lady for fuckin a superstar? wldn't you want a pass?
Posted by Kwesi, Wed Jul-22-15 10:35 AM
12860143, Tupac Did it the BEST!
Posted by Case_One, Wed Jul-22-15 10:37 AM

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"Love your haters until they can love themselves and then love them further." ~ J. Case
12860193, a.k.a. the nuclear option
Posted by placee_22, Wed Jul-22-15 10:55 AM
Pac was a master instigator, in all aspects of making a nigga feel bad about himself.
12860210, kinda. what makes that wow is that we knew exactly who he was talking to.
Posted by Kwesi, Wed Jul-22-15 11:02 AM
12860245, Consistent with the message in "Keep Ya Head Up"
Posted by stattic, Wed Jul-22-15 11:16 AM
12860454, Keep ya (good) head (game) up
Posted by -DJ R-Tistic-, Wed Jul-22-15 12:48 PM
12861169, remotely relevant
Posted by neuro_OSX, Wed Jul-22-15 08:47 PM
SMH

https://vine.co/v/e602hY2Vl67
12862180, i wanna be the nigga with no shirt on.
Posted by Kwesi, Thu Jul-23-15 04:39 PM
12862308, He got a handful thats fa sho, hahhaha
Posted by neuro_OSX, Thu Jul-23-15 09:52 PM
http://i.imgur.com/d62cyPM.jpg
12862348, im convinced that they're fucking.
Posted by Kwesi, Thu Jul-23-15 11:16 PM
12862313, Why do women have to be classified as "bitches'?
Posted by Case_One, Thu Jul-23-15 10:07 PM

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"Love your haters until they can love themselves and then love them further." ~ J. Case