>there is a significant portion of the 'healthy living'
>movement that is not being scientific.
>They are straddling
>over into the new-age spiritual realm. Which has a habit of
>using scientific terminology for concepts that are not
>scientific in any way.
>
>Spiritualists and new-agers are replacing religion imo. I
>hesitate to listen to anything they have to say about food.


Ok, disagreeing with a "significant portion" of a group of people isn't reason to
write them all off whether we're talking about vegans, scientists, Asians or what have you. This is an especially weird way to judge people concerned with healthy living,
as this is a subject approached by spiritualists, doctors, and scientists alike.
So this term "healthy living movement" kinda warrants a side-eye honestly.



>It's not common for religious people to say 'studies show that
>prayer leads to a more fulfilling life'. Though that's
>exactly what new-agers do nowadays. 'Studies show that
>meditation/yoga result in fulfillness'. A study can't 'show'
>something like that. They are bastardizing the scientific
>method. The term 'optimum health' is similar to
>'fulfillness'. There isn't an objective criteria to determine
>what it is.


Ok this isn't the same as determining when a liver is functioning optimally.