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12809465, unreasonable spoiler complaints.
Posted by SoWhat, Tue May-19-15 03:20 PM
my coworkers like to talk about tv shows around the office. today at lunch several of us were about to discuss the Mad Men finale but 2 of us haven't seen it yet and asked that the rest of us not discuss it b/c they didn't want it spoiled. one of them is still at least an entire season behind. the other is only a few episodes behind. i thought it was unreasonable of them to expect the rest of us not to discuss the finale b/c those 2 hadn't seen it yet. they were clearly in the minority w/in our group as most of us had seen the finale. i suggested that they remove themselves from the conversation b/c they were being unreasonable.

what do you think?

generally how long can ppl expect folks to honor their wish to avoid spoilers? i think it varies - this MM finale is a big deal, a somewhat pivotal moment in current pop culture. the finale aired on Sunday and today is Tuesday. i understand waiting a day to give folks a chance who hadn't seen it Sunday night. but i think it's unreasonable to expect folks to wait MONTHS to discuss the finale openly b/c one person hasn't seen it yet.

i haven't seen the last few eps of last season's 'Orange is the New Black'. i would not expect this same group of coworkers not to discuss the season in my presence just b/c i haven't seen it yet. instead if they discuss it i will remove myself if i don't want the season spoiled. i think that's fair.
12809507, I got chided for spoiling Dark City or something a few years back in PTP
Posted by Wonderl33t, Tue May-19-15 03:39 PM
Whatever the movie was, it was minimum 10 years old.

I don't think there should be spoiler rules for anything that isn't recent... that's on you to tune out spoilers ( I find it easy to forget if I truly want to forget something) or just watch the damn movie/show already.
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12809512, lol. that's ridiculous.
Posted by SoWhat, Tue May-19-15 03:41 PM
12809516, i give people one week and hope they do the same for me. i wont
Posted by Government Name, Tue May-19-15 03:44 PM
shut down a convo bc im not caught up tho. that's on me. i offer to excuse myself and half the time the folks i'm with will just shut down the spoiler talk right at that point. if not, i roll. no hard feelings, lol.

in an environment where there's nowhere to go (small group of people in a car, at a restaurant, etc.) then i think it's good form to honor all spoiler requests, no matter how unreasonable.
12809521, i like that.
Posted by SoWhat, Tue May-19-15 03:46 PM
12809527, agreed.
Posted by SHAstayhighalways, Tue May-19-15 03:49 PM
12809520, tv show: 2 weeks after air
Posted by Selah, Tue May-19-15 03:45 PM
movies: 3 weeks after release

books? eh.

generally, methinks if you are pressed about not encountering spoilers stay away from where folks are talking about it (impetus is on the avoider)
12809522, that's how i see it.
Posted by SoWhat, Tue May-19-15 03:46 PM
the impetus is on the person who wants to avoid the spoilers.
12809523, 3 weeks? C'mon. Any time before the movie is on DVD/Netflix
Posted by John Forte, Tue May-19-15 03:46 PM
12809526, thats like 4 months
Posted by Selah, Tue May-19-15 03:48 PM
thats nutty as an expectation
12809887, that's excessive
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed May-20-15 08:16 AM
12809524, if you know someone in the group aint see it,it'd be courteous not to
Posted by Cenario, Tue May-19-15 03:47 PM
speak on it no matter how old/recent it is.

If you said it not knowing they were behind, or are watching whatever then that's on them.

As soon as a possible spoiler show or topic comes up, I say that i ain't see it yet. When people still try to talk around it or there's a 5% chance that someone may still spoil it, I will cut them off and remind them to watch it. Yeah, I'm THAAAAAT guy lol
12809531, naw, that's unreasonable.
Posted by SoWhat, Tue May-19-15 03:50 PM
like if one person in a group of 8 hasn't seen 'The Sixth Sense' it's unreasonable for them to expect us not to discuss the movie openly even if that includes spoilers. too bad/so sad. if they don't want it spoiled they need to remove themselves.

12809563, Ya'll really need to talk about the 6th sense that badly...damn.
Posted by Cenario, Tue May-19-15 03:59 PM
you should add some liquor to your get togethers.
12809575, yup, we do.
Posted by SoWhat, Tue May-19-15 04:04 PM
i have not seen any of the Harry Potter movies yet and i may watch them in the future. it's unreasonable of me to expect ppl not to discuss the movies just b/c i'm around. if i learn that Dumbledore dies b4 i've had a chance to read the books or see the movies that's on me.
12809525, why not just talk about it later?
Posted by MiracleRic, Tue May-19-15 03:47 PM
if you only a few eps behind that's reasonable

whole season or more...foh though

but the image of niggas leaving the lunch table while yall kee kee over some shit i can engage in after 1 binge...just wait for me nigga lol
12809534, b/c we're excited and we wanna discuss among ourselves
Posted by SoWhat, Tue May-19-15 03:51 PM
now. we don't want to wait 2 weeks or 2 months so these 2 guys can join the discussion.

they chose not to watch the finale when it aired Sunday night. living w/spoiler potential is one of the consequences of their choice.

12809550, i'm sayin'
Posted by Cenario, Tue May-19-15 03:55 PM
>but the image of niggas leaving the lunch table while yall kee kee over some shit i can engage in after 1 binge...just wait for me nigga lol

I prefer to wait till a whole series play its course and then i binge watch the whole damn show. Let everyone else test it out and don't get caught stuck watching 4 wack seasons of something bc half a season 1 was gripping.

Bout to finish Season 1 of the Wire as we speak. And I def ain't coming back to this post cause I know one of these dudes I handed an L to on okp gon come try to spoil that ish.
12809536, at least you gave them the option to remove themselves
Posted by blackrussian, Tue May-19-15 03:52 PM
i hate it when some idiot has posted the final scene of something onto IG or posts "RIP *insert character's name here" on Twitter.
12809538, I can say that being in the Pacific Time zone is TOUUUUUUGH
Posted by -DJ R-Tistic-, Tue May-19-15 03:52 PM
I know people here who will completely avoid Twitter/Facebook/IG as soon as shows like Scandal or Empire come on. And we know it's no way to ask them to not post things.

And it sucks if you just wanna check Facebook for an address or birthday, and you see "OMG, Olivia killed Papa Pope??!?!?????? This show is aosdifjasiofjiosadfj fucking craaaaazy!!!!!!!!!"
12809542, i'm sure.
Posted by SoWhat, Tue May-19-15 03:53 PM
that's a main reason i'm glad i don't live out there.

12809548, My mom spoiled Ned Stark's beheading on Facebook IMMEDIATELY
Posted by John Forte, Tue May-19-15 03:55 PM
I was mad as shit and called her on it. The woman has never apologized for a thing in her life, so she got defensive and said "you made the choice not to watch the live broadcast". I was like "you got facebook friends in different timezones tho".
12809608, someone fucked up Joffery's death for me
Posted by MrThomas43423, Tue May-19-15 04:30 PM
and i wanted that motherfucker to die so damn bad. i had done a great job of avoiding all posts and social media about it. i knew that something happened, but if i saw someone was about to talk about it i'd scrollscrollscrollscroll. i was still pretty much in the dark. and then one of my boys posted a picture. this picture:

http://www.leiaja.com/sites/default/files/enviados-2014/05/Colunistas/Diego/king-joffrey-baratheon.jpg

and that was a wrap.
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it's true what they say...people are strange, when you're strangers.

not compassionate....only polite.

I am not like you at all and i cannot pretend.
12809633, That pic was soooo many folks' avatars immediately.
Posted by cskncream, Tue May-19-15 04:55 PM
I watched when it aired, but I would've been pissed to find out that way.
12809602, come on it isnt that tough to just avoid the web
Posted by RobOne4, Tue May-19-15 04:20 PM
since I joined twitter I knew to avoid the internets when any popular show is on. Not a big deal. I dont think anything has been spoiled for me yet. Im just glad that awards shows are finally starting to air live on the west coast. It made no sense that they are filmed here and tape delayed. That meant I had to deal with my TL being taken over for 6 hours instead of 3.
12809604, Shiiiit, it's not easy for people who live on social media
Posted by -DJ R-Tistic-, Tue May-19-15 04:22 PM
I can personally avoid it, but I know a lotta folks who are checking something every two minutes. Hell, it's habit to pick up my phone and check Twitter if I'm bored in line somewhere, or stuck in traffic.
12809669, Don't a lot of cable providers have an Eastern feed?
Posted by dotcomse, Tue May-19-15 05:38 PM
Maybe not for AMC, but I'm almost sure they do for HBO. I'm glad that HBO puts up shows online so fast, sometimes before they're even done airing.
12810264, Some do, but for the shows like Empire/Scandal, it's no luck
Posted by -DJ R-Tistic-, Wed May-20-15 12:04 PM
and that's the MAIN thing the women on my TL's seem to watch.
12809928, Now I actually try to avoid spoilers on twitter...
Posted by StephBMore, Wed May-20-15 08:52 AM
even though I believe ppl should use mute or just not be on twitter during those times...I will tweet "OMG HE IS CRAZY" or something else related to the show but I try to avoid the whole "Lucky just got killed!!!"

But I will NOT lie, last week when I watched the season finale of Big Bang Theory, the end gave me so much life that I wanted to tweet all about it and how shocked I was...then I stopped because I didn't want to spoil it, but then I realized a few days later no one on my TL watches big bang.
12810109, StephBmore, you my negress
Posted by John Forte, Wed May-20-15 10:52 AM
12809539, kinda on topic but i watched Arsenio spoil the endin to War of the Roses
Posted by BigJazz, Tue May-19-15 03:53 PM
on his show. is there any other examples of a tv host doing that?

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12809546, Wait, so if you telling me you are reading a literary classic that's
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Tue May-19-15 03:54 PM
decades or even centuries old, it wouldn't be a jerk move for me to ruin the ending for you?


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12809572, that's different - intentionally spoiling an ending is a dick move.
Posted by SoWhat, Tue May-19-15 04:03 PM
but if ppl are discussing Shakespeare's Macbeth it's unreasonable for someone to expect the group not to discuss it b/c that person hasn't read it yet.

however in a one-on-one conversation that's different - if i know you're reading Macbeth and haven't finished it yet it would be dickish of me to tell you the ending b/c i want to spoil it for you.
12809763, touche.
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Tue May-19-15 09:14 PM
12809617, I agree. Give me a few seconds to skeedaddle.
Posted by Ted Gee Seal, Tue May-19-15 04:37 PM
Maybe preface the conversation with "How about that Mad Men" for fair warning.

Otherwise, I'm good.
12809632, theyre a season/eps behind..eff that. They knew this was coming
Posted by rdhull, Tue May-19-15 04:55 PM
and this pop cultural event? they wanna wait?

they can go sit at the kids table or go to McDonalds..we're disucssing it...NOW
12809638, Just remove yourself from the convo if you dont want to hear spoilers.....
Posted by KCPlayer21, Tue May-19-15 05:05 PM
I have several FB friends that I have to block on Sundays and Thursdays because they like to live post whats going on with Game of Thrones and Scandal, even spoiling it for West Coasters, so instead of me yelling at them to stop spoiling the show, I just temporarily hide them from my news feed....



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That's why I'm hating on the darkness like Paula Deen
Cause in my hood they masked up like it's Halloween
We going hard for the Rock, but we not some fiends
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12809647, Thats fair
Posted by SoWhat, Tue May-19-15 05:11 PM
12809664, Live TV shows? No spoiler window
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Tue May-19-15 05:33 PM
If it aired Monday night, it's a free for all to talk about it at the water cooler Tuesday morning.
If you didn't see it yet, it's up to you to remove yourself from the convo.
That's like telling people to not talk about last night's football game because he DVR'd it and is going to watch it later.


Netflix shows are tricky to handle though since people watch on different schedules.
12810044, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Posted by daryloneal, Wed May-20-15 10:14 AM
12809672, that sounds like an assholish move lol
Posted by lazyboi, Tue May-19-15 05:43 PM

"If you wanna help us, fine. Sit down with your kids and make 'em study at night...otherwise, shoot THIS mothaf*cka!" (c) Morgan Freeman,
12809764, All spoiler complaints are unreasonable.
Posted by Monkey Genius, Tue May-19-15 09:18 PM
Slow moving traffic keep right.
12809813, Meh
Posted by lfresh, Wed May-20-15 01:02 AM
I have family members that will watch a movie with you and spoil that whit whilst you are watching

That's wrong

I on the other hand can predict a lot just from my serious movie consummation
And still keep my trap shut
Cause even though it's a guess it still spoils things for others

I don't like spoiling things
But TV watchers are really really whiny and have a knack for NOT staying out of public forums or off the internet in general
I've lost sympathy
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12809886, some people live just to spoil shit
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed May-20-15 08:15 AM



12810045, you're in F*cking Geeks, right? (I think that's you)
Posted by John Forte, Wed May-20-15 10:15 AM
How did you feel about that AoU clip with the spoiler in the link title?
12810952, yep...I missed it
Posted by lfresh, Wed May-20-15 10:45 PM
>How did you feel about that AoU clip with the spoiler in the
>link title?


I saw it that Friday


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12809898, Not in the age of Netflix dropping entire seasons at once
Posted by Cocobrotha2, Wed May-20-15 08:27 AM
I know binge-watching is a thing but at least give people a couple weeks/weekends before you're loudly discussing the latest season of House of Cards in the hallway.

12809885, remove yourself from the convo
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed May-20-15 08:12 AM
only thing I hate is when someone ask me if I seen a movie or a show, I say no and they try to spoil it for me.

but in a group setting demanding people change the subject? LOL
12809894, fuck yo spoilers. if you dont like it stick your fingers in your ears.
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed May-20-15 08:23 AM
if you haven't seen a movie by the 2nd week or a tv show a few days after it hits on demand then you dont get to complain.
12809899, ^^^no wife. no kids.
Posted by John Forte, Wed May-20-15 08:28 AM
FOH with the 2nd week shit. Niggas don't have time to see every movie in the first two weels of release.
12809913, too bad.
Posted by SoWhat, Wed May-20-15 08:40 AM
12810149, too sad
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed May-20-15 11:07 AM
12809914, agreed.
Posted by SoWhat, Wed May-20-15 08:40 AM
12809915, 1 week for single TV episodes. 2 weeks for movies* and Netflix series
Posted by Cocobrotha2, Wed May-20-15 08:42 AM
Part of the equation is letting people get around to watching it so you actually have someone to discuss the show with. So 1 week to catch up on DVR, 2 weeks to let people avoid opening weekend hustle or to break a 13 hour season of tv into reasonable binges.

*Special exception for movies with a big dramatic surprise or twist (like the 6th Sense). You're a dick if you're just blurting out the surprise before it's out of theaters.
12809921, 9 ppl in the group.
Posted by SoWhat, Wed May-20-15 08:44 AM
7 had watched the MM finale and were prepared to discuss it. 2 had not.

it was unreasonable for those 2 to demand that we 7 not discuss the finale b/c they hadn't seen it yet. and they didn't plan to see it soon. it'd have been different if they were gonna watch it last night. 1 guy is still an entire season behind. the other is still 2 or 3 episodes behind.

they may not be ready to discuss the finale until some time this summer.

ain't nobody got time fo' dat!
12809936, I agree in that situation
Posted by Cocobrotha2, Wed May-20-15 09:01 AM
If the majority of people in the office saw it, I understand. My issue was with 2 people in my office that watched 13 hours of House of Cards the weekend it came out.... most people don't have time for that so loudly discussing it in the office is messed up.

Also folks that aren't even on the current season should be used to avoiding show conversations. The convos and analysis are why I finally had to catch up on Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones. It sucks seeing a new (to you) episode and having nobody to talk about it with because everybody else is a season ahead.
12809925, It's unreasonable because you can't control ppl...
Posted by StephBMore, Wed May-20-15 08:48 AM
I cant' tell someone what they should or shouldn't post or should or shouldn't say...if I don't want something to be spoiled, I mute keywords, or I ignore threads or posts, and if it's in person, I walk away and say "don't tell me guys!!" but I remove myself...I don't expect others to stop (unless we are at brunch! then i'm like woah guys!! chill). at the same time, if someone asks me not to spoil it during a convo, I will either edit my convo or say "i'm about to talk about this so you should leave!"

But I won't lie, I hate it when ppl post the spoilers in the titles of threads...that's my only pet peeve.

Also, it doesn't bother me when ppl spoil shows. Especially any show or movie adapted from a book. Because most likely I read it already
12809935, My friends and I talk about this all the time.
Posted by Brew, Wed May-20-15 09:00 AM
I think it's rude to spoil something no matter how long it's been since the show/episode aired. I have a friend who for whatever reason didn't catch The Wire when it was on. His excitement over certain big moments in the show is palpable, and I would never ruin that for him, I don't care that it's been seven years since the final season. I will either save my conversation(s) about it til later if he or another non-Wire watcher are around, or politely ask him to step away while we discuss it. I have no idea what circumstances caused him to miss it the first time around, and it's none of my business. Maybe he just didn't have the time. Hadn't heard of it. Whatever. I'm not gonna be a dickhead because I remember how awesome it was for me to watch it the first time around.

I do think that in certain situations it's up to the person who hasn't seen it yet to simply step out of the conversation because I do understand how exciting it can be to discuss, for example, the Mad Men finale immediately after it takes place. But I think you're a real dickhead if you just continue talking about it when someone makes clear they don't want it ruined for them. Lunch is a situation that's kind of unfair to that person, they were invited to lunch yet you're asking them to step aside for half of your lunch hour while you discuss it? Weird to me.
12809938, ^^^^^^^^^^^
Posted by Cenario, Wed May-20-15 09:03 AM
12810054, too bad.
Posted by SoWhat, Wed May-20-15 10:24 AM
7 ppl were ready to discuss the MM finale but 2 hadn't seen it and asked us not to have the discussion. i think those 2 should've removed themselves instead.

this wasn't an invited lunch situation either. if it were i might agree that their request wasn't unreasonable. but here it was.

i wouldn't spoil an old tv show for someone i know is currently watching it but at the same time i think if there's a group discussion of an old series (or movie) happening and one or 2 ppl in the group who haven't seen it yet those one or 2 should remove themselves or deal w/the spoilation.
12810085, Invited or not, if 9 people agree to go to lunch together...
Posted by Brew, Wed May-20-15 10:39 AM
and are sitting down enjoying a meal it's hilarious that you think it's normal to be like "if y'all don't like what we're talking about just leave the restaurant/table right now". Absolutely ludicrous. Just because you're impatient and can't wait to discuss it those 2 poor bastards have to suffer?
12810090, they chose not to watch the show when it aired.
Posted by SoWhat, Wed May-20-15 10:40 AM
they have to live w/the consequence of their choice.

as i said before, i haven't finished watching Orange Is the New Black. i don't demand that ppl not discuss it in my presence b/c i made the choice not to watch the show yet.
12810107, Or perhaps, you know, they just had other shit to do...
Posted by Brew, Wed May-20-15 10:50 AM
and haven't gotten around to it. Life happens sometimes.
12810124, too bad/so sad.
Posted by SoWhat, Wed May-20-15 10:59 AM
deal w/it.
12810127, Miserable attitude to have towards humans.
Posted by Brew, Wed May-20-15 11:01 AM
12810134, sorry i'm not sorry.
Posted by SoWhat, Wed May-20-15 11:02 AM
12810214, I can't wait til someone ruins a show for you.
Posted by Brew, Wed May-20-15 11:38 AM
You're gonna be so pissed.
12810242, it's already happened.
Posted by SoWhat, Wed May-20-15 11:50 AM
and my world kept spinning.

IMAGINE THAT!!!!
12810247, You don't have to put on this front bruh.
Posted by Brew, Wed May-20-15 11:53 AM
I know that you were uber-pissed when it happened. As you should have been. The person that spoiled the show for you is an asshole. Just like you would be if you spoiled the Mad Men finale for your co-workers today intentionally.
12810250, The Wire.
Posted by SoWhat, Wed May-20-15 11:56 AM
i hadn't seen all of The Wire and ppl discussed the events of seasons one and two around me.

when i finally watched the show i wasn't mad about that.

12810269, I think there's a huge difference between...
Posted by Brew, Wed May-20-15 12:11 PM
discussing random events of early seasons and openly discussing the FINAL EPISODE but maybe that's just me.
12810272, it's probably just you
Posted by SoWhat, Wed May-20-15 12:13 PM
and a few others who are also wrong.
12810294, I ain't never wrong.
Posted by Brew, Wed May-20-15 12:28 PM
12810298, i know the feeling.
Posted by SoWhat, Wed May-20-15 12:32 PM
12810103, exactly
Posted by MiracleRic, Wed May-20-15 10:48 AM
im not mad at either side but jesus christ...u both saw it...did u like it? great...discuss it vaguely since that makes the obvious douchiness of your need to discuss it that much more douchey
12810123, the MM finale goes beyond 'did you like it'
Posted by SoWhat, Wed May-20-15 10:59 AM
it is/was a fairly significant moment in pop culture. several of us (7) had a common experience watching it and wanted to discuss it - including theories about what the ending meant.

and the problem is these dudes may not watch the finale until a few weeks or months from now. it won't be the same by then. it'd be different if they were gonna watch it w/in the next couple of days.
12810140, i feel both sides
Posted by MiracleRic, Wed May-20-15 11:04 AM
dont invite them niggas to lunch after the MM finale
12810141, pretty much.
Posted by SoWhat, Wed May-20-15 11:05 AM
lol
12810145, some people need to step on other peoples feelings to feel alive
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed May-20-15 11:06 AM
12810151, some ppl like onions.
Posted by SoWhat, Wed May-20-15 11:07 AM
12810161, some peoples attitudes smell like em too
Posted by legsdiamond, Wed May-20-15 11:12 AM
12810166, some ppl's breath smells like candy.
Posted by SoWhat, Wed May-20-15 11:14 AM
12810136, Entitlement on fleek.
Posted by SimplyHannah, Wed May-20-15 11:03 AM
12810139, in abundance, even.
Posted by SoWhat, Wed May-20-15 11:04 AM
12810219, If the person chose not to/couldn't watch it live
Posted by Selassie I God, Wed May-20-15 11:39 AM
It's on that person to leave the conversation. Period. No time limits. Keep up with the current events if it's that important to you. I can't stand that one person comin' at me with "don't tell me what happened, I recorded it". FOH with that. WE all saw it, WE wanna talk about it, YOU vacate until we're done.
12810243, ya know?
Posted by SoWhat, Wed May-20-15 11:50 AM
12810255, Movies and books are one thing. But TV? I'm supposed to delay...
Posted by daryloneal, Wed May-20-15 12:00 PM
a conversation because you haven't watched your recording yet?

Nigga we grown.

Walk away.

Or stand there, listen, watch it later anyway, then come back and tell us we were right about how dope it was.