Poll question: Most influential non-Kanye emcee of the last decade

Poll result (29 votes) Lil B (5 votes) Vote Soulja Boy (1 votes) Vote Gucci Mane (0 votes) Vote Drake (16 votes) Vote Wayne (6 votes) Vote Other (specify) (1 votes) Vote

but I'd go further and say Tyler is even possible cause of Lil' B

>but I'd go further and say Tyler is even possible cause of
>Lil' B

which makes me also wonder if it ISN'T Lil B

Tyler literally a brand / lifestyle artist

Soulja is the first youtube-to-mainstream rap star and his production was all DIY. He had the labels climbing over themselves to find the next youtube star. In some ways, he paved the way for OFWGKTA's success.

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Trap Muzik has been the blueprint for new age southern artist

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trap muzik kind of shifted the south outta snap music
soon after the release of the album
Wayne mimicked that formula
Jeezy follows

Then T.I. came with King and switched up a bit
iono maybe its because of the jail bids he doesnt get his due

Spawned a bunch of shitty ass clones.

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808 and heart breaks meets college drop out.

Yeezy and Wayne in his style

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Waka made rappers focus on how something is said, rather than what's being said. the phrasing over booming production. Waka himself was the logical next step from Lil' John. Migos took that template and perfected it by making it more melodic within that Flow everyone started biting

their sound and flow is possible because Lil' B opened the flood gates on what's possible on record because he said let me be silly and ridiculous over BOOMING production

many wannabee and emerging rappers looked at B and said if can, so can I. and also said he on that silly shit, let me make street shit, but use his template

Migos feel like Lil B (non-boombap Lil B) and Waka merged into one thing

Im explaining how I feel those two guys influenced that act.

If you don't got shit shut the fuck up

I mean who do you think said yeah lets just repeat a famous persons name over and over as the chorus? It was Lil B. Migos just did it better with Hannah Montana

lil B, i'll give some latitude to though but i still think that he's more of a product of the style you are talking about rather than the influential one...the style change was too widespread over time and regions to be traced back to him...he simply didn't have the widespread impact among those already in the industry to be pointed out as having that type of influence

Waka...not even close...he was just Waka

there have always been rappers who have emphasized how things sound and focus on syllables/melody over everything else...always...neither of those 2 have noticeable influence over popular acts immediately after them or those popular before them

wayne and drake have spawned easily identifiable "clones" even among those who already have fan bases as well...

hell...i'd even posit that migos is in a position to have more influence than those 2 you named than the other names in the actual poll

so if u needed all those words to point that out...just so u can disagree too...cool

you're still wrong.

What styles are you alluding to? I specifically identified mine. Hey, I get it most folk don't like Lil' B, does nothing to diminish what he has done. more on him later...

who was doing what Flocka did before him? Bone Crusher, Pastor Troy? guess what, for all their energy and bravado, hook heavy songs, in the verses they were still rapping in the "clasical, technical" sense. Flocka did not. He focused on phrasing AND making the adlibs just as much as part of the structure as the verses. How Jeezy kinda got known for the cleverness and catchiness of his adlibs, Waka put that shit on a hundid and no one sounded like him. Migos said hmmm, lets negate that aggression and focus on the flow, then add repetitive simple hooks ALA LIL B and all the ridiculous flash of Gucci, and wahla

and yes, Migos has become very influential with their own take on the elements I described above.

as for your Lil' B wasn't known like that, LOL. Please, post 2007, when rap was hurting with sales and for stars post-Wayne, most rap "culture" went online. Lil' B became the king of how to use myspace, youtube, tumblr, twitter, etc. Online rappers where keeping the shitty state on the industry in their toes. Lil' B made rappers hella comfy about being ridiculous in content and appearance, and flooded the net with shit after shit after shit (which as you said below he got from Wayne)

Lil' B's influence is not only "hey I wanna do what he's doing, but yo he sucks and I can do what he does and better," which is what people like Danny Brown and Asap Rocky actually did.

appreciate u covering my shift fam *daps*

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Lil B (There is no Tom Ford, Pretty Boy Swag, Riff Raff or Makonnen w/o him)

Drake (Improved on Kanye, Weezy motif mixed with tech advances Melodyne "Flat lined zero vibrato vocals" and Pro Tools Low Pass Filter beats)

Future (The "I dont know how to use Autotune so everything is in C Chromatic style")

Honorable Mentions - Travis Scott weird reggae autotuned "straight up" and warble is all through Kanye, Big Sean and Wiz Khalifa (We Dem Boyz)

Cool Kids - Tyler (drums), The New Boyz, Chris Brown (Fashion), Tyga (Fashion) and a lot in between.

this is all news to me.
lol!

every Chicago Drill artist uses modified version of his flow. Bobby Schmurda uses a modified Lil B Flow.

lol.
had no clue.

I am connecting songs directly to Lil B influence..

You HAVE heard Tom Ford, maybe Pretty Boy Swag etc.... Tuesday. and even BEFORE "lil b" you heard The Pack - Vans.. which influenced a whole generation (Including myself) in terms of "hipster rappity raps"

I didn't realize he was in The Pack either. I liked Vans.

Yea..

Once you tie him back to The Pack you realize he has had a crazy influential run.

And now that he is speaking at MIT and Columbia who knows what else he'll influence..

Any songs you could connect to it?

The hook.. the name..

Lil B is the king of the famous name/hook song..

Paris Hilton
Ellen DeGeneres
Justin Beiber

Barry Bonds hook was "we outta here baby"

I mean Lil B's hook was literally ELLEN.. DeGeneres.. Ellen Degeneres.. Miiley Cyrus.. Miiley Cyrus

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I only agree because she is what Lil Kim would be today were she starting out.

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What y'all think?

especially with the output angle

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Gucci has found damn near every major hood artist on the market now.

His influence is ridiculous.

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How is Tyler influential to rap?
Not dissing, I just don't check for him so I don't really know about his moves.

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>How is Tyler influential to rap?
>Not dissing, I just don't check for him so I don't really know
>about his moves.

I feel this way about 99% of what passes for Rap artists nowadays and it ain't 'cause I'm "old"

Gotta also include Cudi...

There are elements of him in literally the 3 biggest rappers out.. Ye, Kendrick, Drake

or anyone really

sure, drake could be the bigger star, have the bigger hits, enjoy more longevity as an icon, be better, or more likable

but in terms of propagating a musical style, idea, trend, direction, taking a genre from one sound to another? wayne. wayne over kanye even

MF DOOM inspired Odd Future, Joey Badass, Danny Brown & Mos Def

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an "influential emcee," per se, AT ALL. Like not even close.

He's an influential rap artist
He's an influential artist in general
He's an influential producer
He's an influential creator
He's an influential celebrity/personality

But I don't think ANYONE has ever modeled their rapping/MCing after Kanye. Mostly because he doesn't write his own shit, and even if/when he does write his own shit, he doesn't have any one specific style. And even if you want to say he does have his own style, it isn't very good. Kanye, by contrast, has followed OTHER emcees' trends over the years. The hashtag rap stuff, the short choppy flow, etc. That was all popularized or gaining traction before Kanye decided to do it himself.

But, on the other hand, if you want to ask who's the most influential RAP artist, then yes, it is appropriate to say "other than Kanye...". He is by FAR the most influential rap artist of the last decade plus. Other artists (Drank, for example, with So Far Gone emulating the style of 808s and Heartbreak) have followed his trends, his approach to making albums, his production style, his personality in and outside of the music world. So overall, yes, he's influential as hell. I just have trouble with saying that he's an "influential emcee" because he's most certainly not.

I realize this is super nitpicky and arguing semantics, and you probably DID mean overall artist rather than MC...but you said MC so I had to jump on it. Haha.

Anyway if I were to choose I'd probably say Drake or Wayne. Can't really think of anyone else who's had as much impact on the way other rappers emcee than those two in the last several years, at least in the mainstream.

i am pretty sure the OP meant the total package as an artist and you can move past that pretty quickly. hell you could even reduce the poll to of "of these six artists, which was the most influential?"

don't take your ball and go home because someone refers to a double dribble as traveling.

>I realize this is super nitpicky and arguing semantics, and you probably DID mean overall artist rather than MC...but you said MC so I had to jump on it. Haha.

^^^ right there. I understand and understood from the jump that I am being nitpicky. Then I answered the question.

But to respond to your question of how we were first introduced to him, no...I was first introduced to him on the production tip on JayZ/Scarface/Beanie/etc. songs/albums. I didn't hear him MC until "My Way" on one of his early mixtapes, which came well after his production work on The Blueprint and several others. I was actually shocked to hear that he was rhyming when I first heard "My Way"

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