first of all the movie was cornball. Home boy is a good actor, though but still that film was whitewashed.

anyway two part question on Jackie Robinson

is he considered a civil rights leader and Icon?

also why does it feel he wasn't as embraced as Muhammad Ali?

i dig Ali big time,and Jackie in my grandparents era,etc.. loved the man big time.

From what I know, he was pretty conservative personally and politically, whereas Ali was ...Ali.


to answer part 1: honestly, I'm not sure. He's definitely a trailblazer, I'm not so sure about his leadership in Civil Rights.

Somebody probably has more background on his activism.

was bigger than baseball in our community
Jackie was in the generation before him...where baseball was the biggest thing in our community

Ali's generation were more ........idk if rebellious is the right word but yeah...more rebellious against the 'system'

partly b/c Ali participated in a solo sport and Robinson played a team sport.

and their personalities were different.

but generally Robinson wanted to allow his performance on the field to speak for him whereas Ali wanted to be more outspoken and overtly radical w/his political sentiments and lifestyle choices.

>is he considered a civil rights leader and Icon?

yes.

>also why does it feel he wasn't as embraced as Muhammad
>Ali?

he is but since he was more low key his appreciation is also more low key.

Unfortunately I think he has gotten more shine from the (white) establishment in pursuit of that messiah to be like "LOOK, HE CAME ALONG AND EVERYTHING WAS BETTER!" than he has from black history. I guess it has to do with the era he was in, before everything was shot straight into your living room in living color. Then again guys from Ali's same era like Arthur Ashe don't get their due either, but there are other reasons for that, I suppose.

Robinson: "allow me to be a part of the society"

Ali: "Allow me to be a part of the society on my terms"