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Topic subjectRE: This is Indiana trying to usurp a civil right with a "religious right"
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12769165, RE: This is Indiana trying to usurp a civil right with a "religious right"
Posted by murph71, Wed Apr-01-15 12:22 PM
>Case - it actually reminds me of a lot of your posts where
>you don't
>plainly speak about your opposition to gay marriage and civil
>rights
>for LGBT people, and instead approach it obtusely instead of
>directly.
>
>Gay marriage *is* an issue of basic civil rights. We have a
>deep tradition
>of negative rights within our Constitution (the right to be
>left alone) - and
>an LGBT person has the unfettered right to pursue basic civil
>rights (marriage, freedom
>of association, right to not be denied basic services because
>of discrimination
>of immutable characteristics (sexuality, race, gender) ---
>this is all within
>the purview of *civil* rights and we should never lose focus
>of that as politicians
>try to draft up laws and ordinances aimed to usurp these
>rights.
>
>What this is really about is the cowardice of
>"religious/conservative value" people
>to not just (wo)man up and be clear about their views on the
>issue of gay marriage:
>They are against it, but this is a way for them to not have to
>plainly state it - they
>want to say 'well this is about religious rights' --- no it's
>not, it's about civil rights
>and the right of a protected class to be left alone from those
>who seek to merge
>church & state under the guise of "religious expression."
>
>Be an adult and just say what you are against and stop hiding.
> But of course, the
>reason why they are hiding and manipulating local laws is
>because they know they
>are on the wrong side of history, but are stubbornly holding
>on to a dying viewpoint
>that has no place in a progressive, tolerant, and inclusive
>society.


Yeah! (c) Brolic dude from Trading Places