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12768964, This is Indiana trying to usurp a civil right with a "religious right"
Posted by Vex_id, Wed Apr-01-15 10:04 AM
Case - it actually reminds me of a lot of your posts where you don't
plainly speak about your opposition to gay marriage and civil rights
for LGBT people, and instead approach it obtusely instead of directly.

Gay marriage *is* an issue of basic civil rights. We have a deep tradition
of negative rights within our Constitution (the right to be left alone) - and
an LGBT person has the unfettered right to pursue basic civil rights (marriage, freedom
of association, right to not be denied basic services because of discrimination
of immutable characteristics (sexuality, race, gender) --- this is all within
the purview of *civil* rights and we should never lose focus of that as politicians
try to draft up laws and ordinances aimed to usurp these rights.

What this is really about is the cowardice of "religious/conservative value" people
to not just (wo)man up and be clear about their views on the issue of gay marriage:
They are against it, but this is a way for them to not have to plainly state it - they
want to say 'well this is about religious rights' --- no it's not, it's about civil rights
and the right of a protected class to be left alone from those who seek to merge
church & state under the guise of "religious expression."

Be an adult and just say what you are against and stop hiding. But of course, the
reason why they are hiding and manipulating local laws is because they know they
are on the wrong side of history, but are stubbornly holding on to a dying viewpoint
that has no place in a progressive, tolerant, and inclusive society.

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