>The original question made sense...without placing blame on
>where the ideals come from, it was just asking what it asked.

theres all that
*waves up above*
happening up there with the usual homophobic and sexist suspects
you want to think this is innocuous
this is different
its not


>It's surely a combination of how both sexes act about it all,
>if you ask me. The fact that straight men are competing with
>each other, vs women choosing men, just makes the attitudes
>about gay men different to me, regardless of where the root of
>the homophobia, or any negative thoughts against gays may come
>from.

again understand the base of all of this is this wonderful mix of racism, sexist and homophobia that our society perpetuates and frankly women nor black started either
but yes they perpetuate both but mostly are the victims of both

so again while women reinforce the standard
men made it

>His question made me remember a party I did last year, where a
>good number of my homegirls came (actually, two parties with
>similar crowds)...and while the straight guys who came felt
>like "man, it's some fine girls here!" and nothing else...the
>girls ALL complained hard because of the number of gay guys
>there. And I don't think it was necessarily them being
>homophobic, but more so them being single and wanting to
>choose guys, and seeing that barely any of them were paying
>attention to them. There were a few who were blatantly
>homophobic about it, but the rest just felt discouraged.

thats not nice
this does not negate the article
its certainly does not negate the over whelming influence of patriarchy
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