> Pac was the BEST WRITER
>ever in HipHop...
>
^^^Laughable.

And actually speaking of writing, how many asshole inferior MC's since BIG have claimed to not write at all directly due to BIG?

Does that have anything to do with BIG's ability or catalog?

Fuck No.

Keep bringing up irrelevant shit away from their actual respective musical abilities tho.

>So while you choose to focus on quotables/flow. I put more
>emphasis on content and emoting your feelings on record which
>no one did better than Tupac..
>
>This is what you don't seem to understand when it comes to art
>and how ppl relate to that art: there are times when techniCal
>aspects of an artform are superseded by sheer emotion and an
>artist's ability to connect w/their listener...case and point:
>Billie Holiday who wasn't by any means the most gifted singer
>*technically* speaking, certainly not in the same category of
>technical fluency when it comes to Jazz singers like Sarah
>Vaughn, Ella Fitzerald, or Dinah Washington...but despite
>Billie Holiday's limitations as a vocalist, she was still the
>most influencial Jazz singer ever because she was able to
>convey an emotional quality that transcended those technical
>limitations...
>
LOL, this dude is compare Pac's echo-chamber stacked vocals, simple rhyme schemes & exagerrated inflection at the end of words with Billie Holiday's vocal stylings.

Pacistani, Please.

>And this applies to Tupac as well - there's a host of rappers
>who maybe had a better flow or used better metaphors and
>couplets in their rhymes than he did but they still weren't
>able to have the same impact or influence on the culture or on
>their listeners the way he did - I've yet to see ANY MC have
>the same impact, before or since his death, and it's been
>almost 20 yrs since he died.
>
We're not talking about a 'lyrical/miracle' Rass Kass rapper compared to Pac, dude.

We're talking about BIG.

Who had all that shit you're talking about in spades.

He just wasn't also an actor, pin-up and ripped-from-the-headlines/living-breathing display of performance art outside the booth.

>If you don't place much importance on the gifts that Tupac
>brought to the table as an MC, then it makes sense why you're
>putting a premium on things like "rhyme styles" and
>"quotables"
>
I place just the right amount of importance on Pac as an MC.

I say he was a gifted rapper who could embue tracks with emotion to overcome his repetitive ways stylistically.

He recorded a lot of good songs (lots of shitty ones too but oh well, he was in the studio knocking out 5/6 daily at points).

I have no issue with Pac, I'm just not a casual fan or a dude hung up on the extracurriculars.

He wasn't as good a rapper or rap artist as Biggie Smalls.

That's no major disgrace, you could say that about all but four or five guys all-time despite the abbreviated catalog.

>I guess Dougie Fresh isn't one of the all-time greatest MCs
>since he has even less quotables and flows than Pac...
>
>
>>>Pac could've made a similar album to either of Biggie's
>>>album...but there's absolutely no way. Biggie could've ever
>>>made a 'Makeveli'
>>>
>>Pac had about ten chances to make an album that held up and
>>told a story from start to finish like Ready To Die but he
>was
>>not even close to being able to do so.
>
>Please - I'll say it again: it would've been far easier for
>Pac to make a 'Rwady To Die' than it would for Biggie to make
>a 'Makaveli'...and Makaveli>>>>>>Ready to Die
>
You could say it three times, it still won't make a damn lick of sense to anyone but you and the Pacistani Crew.
>>
>>I guess closest he came mighta been Me Against The World.
>>
>>And he couldn't do Life After Death either, he had the
>entire
>>Death Row camp (at their creative/commercial zeitgeist)
>>literally gift him with their best material available upon
>>coming home while he had production done by everyone from
>Quik
>>to Dre to Dazz & Pooh yet put out an album where the second
>>disc was two joints away from a full-fledged coaster.
>
>K
>>
>>>He'll, Big learned the game from Pac as far as what records
>>to
>>>make that *women* buy
>>>
>>sure, lil buddy.
>
>
>>
>>Even when Big makes ladies' joints, which he did more
>>successfully by his first album than 2Pac had done up to
>that
>>point.....it was Pac's spiritual guiding light showing him
>how
>>to talk to girls.
>>
>>>Also, there is NO rapper whose influence is easily
>>recognized
>>>more than Tupac - especially in the mid to late 90s
>>>
>>It's pretty eazeeeey, to recognize another rhyme about
>>henesseeeey and enemeeey.
>>
>>You want credit for Ja-Rule & Lil Zane as part of why Pac's
>a
>>better rapper than Big?
>
>No, Sherlock, how abt Nas, Em, Dmx, 50...to name a few...all
>have admitted they were huge fans of Pac and were influenced
>by him in way or another
>>
This is nothing to 'admit', dude.

Nas rapping don't really have much to do with Pac or Big.

Nas is Nas.

And him or whoever 'admitting' they're fans of Pac?

Big fucking deal.

They would say the same for BIG.

What would be controversial is if any mainstream rapper actually said otherwise about either of them now that they're long gone & mythologized rap icons.

>>>Most ppl's favorite MC was a fan of Pac lol (including and
>>>especially Big)
>>>
>>tell the truth, did you really make yourself laugh out loud
>
>Yeah a little becuse I can't believe half the bs you're in
>here saying
>
^^^Damn, Pac was always a lot better at returning fire than this.