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12757785, OKP ON TV ALERT: Trace was on w/ Chris Hayes tonight
Posted by Rjcc, Fri Mar-20-15 04:04 PM
LINK (thx kinetic): http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/frat-suspended-for-notebook-with-racist-entries-416138307884

in case you didn't already know from facebook

http://twitter.com/brokeymcpoverty/statuses/578997720612003840


BOUT TIME, HAYES. RT @chrislhayes: Well, well, well. Looks like @brokeymcpoverty will be making her @allinwithchris debut tonight.

MSNBC. 8PM

for reasons:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/tracyclayton/transylvania-university-told-some-students-not-to-share-buzz?utm_term=.feQV65xz55
http://www.buzzfeed.com/tracyclayton/a-black-girls-history-with-southern-frat-racism

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
12757809, we made it cuz!!
Posted by SHAstayhighalways, Fri Mar-20-15 04:22 PM
12757810, I'm turnin' up in my chair at work
Posted by 13Rose, Fri Mar-20-15 04:23 PM
Gotta love it.
12757823, RE: OKP ON TV ALERT: Trace will be on w/ Chris Hayes tonight at 8
Posted by Tiggerific, Fri Mar-20-15 04:54 PM
I just shared her articles on the Book. So happy for her. I can say...I kinda sorta in a 6 degrees of OKP kinda know her! Will be watching!!!
12757837, this is pretty fuckin' dope.
Posted by kinetic94761180, Fri Mar-20-15 05:23 PM
12757843, OKP-Chris Hayes connection this week
Posted by PimpTrickGangstaClik, Fri Mar-20-15 05:33 PM
First the black (white?) guy getting called out for talking black.
Now this.

We made it. Questo should be proud
12757872, jsmooth995
Posted by Rjcc, Fri Mar-20-15 06:56 PM
WE MADE IT

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
12757852, ha always watch, would have been
Posted by sosumi, Fri Mar-20-15 06:01 PM
a pleasant surprise (if that word is not corrupted now…)

wish a certain podcast would relaunch...
12757854, W00t!
Posted by lfresh, Fri Mar-20-15 06:02 PM

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When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
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You cannot hate people for their own good.
12757858, !
Posted by lfresh, Fri Mar-20-15 06:09 PM
Looks like she might be on with this guy

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/why-fraternities-need-be-abolished

Why fraternities need to be abolished
03/20/15 12:54 PM—UPDATED 03/20/15 03:51 PM
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By Andrew Lohse
It’s becoming difficult to keep track of all the disturbing fraternity stories in the news.

Between a Penn State fraternity’s secret Facebook page for sharing photos of nude, passed out women and images of hazing, allegations of drug dealing and sexual assault in a North Carolina State frat, a group of University of Michigan frat brothers destroying a ski resort in a drunken rage, the revelation of a University of Wisconsin-Madison frat’s degrading hazing, the publication of University of Maryland frat brothers’ pro-rape emails, and the now-infamous racist video of Sigma Alpha Epsilon (SAE) members calling for the lynching of African-Americans, it would be an understatement to say that Greek life has had a bad few weeks.

These stories aren’t easy reads. They show in stark terms how fraternities are antithetical to the educational mission of their host institutions – because who has time to learn anything when you’re starved and forced to sleep in the attic, like those UW-Madison pledges? Together these revelations paint a picture of endemic fraternity misbehavior that most people would more likely associate with a biker gang than the supposed future leaders of America.


“We don’t have the right to be surprised anymore. These incidents aren’t outliers or cases of individual impropriety, but data points in a clear historical pattern.”
But we don’t have the right to be surprised anymore. These incidents aren’t outliers or cases of individual impropriety, but data points in a clear historical pattern showing the fraternity system to be a structurally flawed vestige of the 19th century. Simply put, fraternities need to be abolished.
The idea that Greek organizations can self-reform or self-regulate – especially on an issue as crucial as campus sexual assault – is as ludicrous as arguing that Goldman Sachs should run the SEC. After all, a much-cited 2007 study showed that fraternity members are 300% more likely to commit rape than non-affiliated students. This study wasn’t an outlier, but the third of its kind confirming the same data.

Expanding sororities to counterbalance the power of frats is no solution, either. Numerous studies have shown that sorority membership is a clear risk factor for sexual assault, especially an assault involving drug or alcohol coercion – a Harvard School of Public Health study indicates that even just living in a sorority house made a woman three times more likely to be raped.

How can we expect higher education to be a ladder of opportunity for all students if neither universities nor the federal government can ensure basic safety by eradicating the hostile environment that is privileged, perpetuated, and protected by these organizations?

As a former member of Dartmouth College’s SAE – a house notorious for its foul hazing – I’ve witnessed how the hyper-masculine groupthink that supposedly builds a fraternity “brotherhood” is the same cult psychology that teaches young men to do things they’d never do on their own.

These organizations’ flaws are systemic, and the symptoms can’t be comfortably reduced to questions of individual behavior. No frat bro exists in a vacuum. Not to mention how these organizations use secrecy to evade scrutiny, the “philanthropy defense” to get themselves excused, and Washington, D.C. lobbying to suppress any reforms.


“The idea that frats can self-regulate is as ludicrous as arguing that Goldman Sachs should run the SEC.”
Fraternities are big business. They own and operate more than $3 billion worth of real estate and take in more than $150 million of tax-free revenue each year. They’re represented by sophisticated trade organizations and a political action committee, FratPAC, that in 2013 succeeded in killing a piece of desperately-needed anti-hazing legislation in Congress.

Believe it or not, we don’t need fraternities to raise money for philanthropic causes. Corporations, religious organizations, non-profits, and student service groups easily produce a greater social good without the obvious human cost inherent to exclusionary, sex-segregated clubs built around binge drinking and hazing. Unlike fraternities, neither the Salvation Army nor the United Way have ever beaten one of their volunteers to death or left them to die of alcohol poisoning with their hands zip-tied after an initiation.

The “philanthropy defense” is a diversion. It always has been. The best available data puts Greeks’ collective charitable giving at about $7 million a year – a statistical anomaly compared to the more than $300 billion donated in America in sum total. Why do frat apologists believe that a small amount – or any amount – of philanthropy can wipe away the stain of repeated hazing deaths? Why do they argue that a few bake sales outweigh the rigorous research and high-profile documentaries like “The Hunting Ground” that show fraternities to be drivers of rape culture on campus?


“These organizations’ flaws are systemic, and the symptoms can’t be comfortably reduced to questions of individual behavior. No frat bro exists in a vacuum.”
To be clear, fraternities aren’t the only sketchy organization to use philanthropy to cover for other activities. Hell’s Angels donates toys to underprivileged children every year – but the Department of Justice still considers them an organized crime syndicate. Apparently, they just don’t have good lobbyists. Why do we excuse some systems of organized crime, but censure others? It’s not just white privilege, but something else ingrained in American life – classism, sexism, elitism, and the fact that a different set of rules exist for the rich, their progeny, and their secret clubs.
Fraternities are out of excuses. It’s finally time for Congress to repeal Title IX’s fraternity and sorority exemption – a loophole that has protected Greek organizations for decades, despite the fact that their codified discrimination clearly undermines the legislation’s aim to ensure gender equity in education. University presidents owe it to the next generation of students to abolish fraternities and replace them with a 21st century system that isn’t hostile to minorities, women, and its own members – not to mention the very idea of learning.

Andrew Lohse is a former member of Sigma Alpha Epsilon at Dartmouth College and the author of “Confessions of an Ivy league Frat Boy.”

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When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
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You cannot hate people for their own good.
12757946, Okay phew it wasn't this guy
Posted by lfresh, Fri Mar-20-15 09:10 PM

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When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
~~~~
You cannot hate people for their own good.
12757957, link-
Posted by kinetic94761180, Fri Mar-20-15 09:37 PM
http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/frat-suspended-for-notebook-with-racist-entries-416138307884

good job, trace.
12757961, thnx i was jus looking for this
Posted by LAbeathustla, Fri Mar-20-15 09:49 PM
12757984, I haven't watched it yet but is she going to be okay with any backlash?
Posted by Kira, Fri Mar-20-15 11:31 PM
Hopefully she comes out of this unscathed because people are vicious.
12757992, barely getting a chance to watch this
Posted by RobOne4, Fri Mar-20-15 11:54 PM
read the article earlier. Great stuff.
12758011, Thanks
Posted by c71, Sat Mar-21-15 04:02 AM
yes
12758098, RE: OKP ON TV ALERT: Trace was on w/ Chris Hayes tonight
Posted by Tiggerific, Sat Mar-21-15 10:19 AM
She did well. I think that she dance the fine line of explaining her experience and what she saw, and not totally condemning all frats to hell.

But, yeah, she will face backlash because she's black. And, the good ole boys aren't gonna like it.
12758191, the anchor!
Posted by Trace, Sat Mar-21-15 01:15 PM
aaaahhhh!!

<3
12758246, congrats!!!!
Posted by c71, Sat Mar-21-15 03:15 PM
hey
12758320, get it girl!! so glad your voice is getting out there more and more
Posted by Damali, Sat Mar-21-15 07:43 PM
we need you :)

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