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12756257, Stephen A. Smith Wants Every Black to Vote GOP for One Election
Posted by nipsey, Thu Mar-19-15 10:12 AM
This guy.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/stephen-a-smith-wishes-every-black-american-would-vote-gop-for-one-election/

ESPN host Stephen A. Smith thinks that if, for one election, every black American voted Republican, it would send a message to both parties that the demographic is not under any one particular party’s control.

“What I dream is that for one election, just one, every black person in America vote Republican,” Smith said Tuesday afternoon at the Impact Symposium at Vanderbilt University in Nashville. His explanation:

From what I’ve read, Barry Goldwater is going against Lyndon B. Johnson. He’s your Republican candidate; he is completely against the civil rights movement. Lyndon B. Johnson was in favor of it — civil rights legislation. What happens is, he wins office, Barry Goldwater loses office, but there was a Senate, a Republican Senate, that pushed the votes to the president’s desk. It was the Democrats who were against civil rights legislation — the southern Dixiecrats. So because President Lyndon B. Johnson was a Democrat, black America assumed the Democrats were for it.

According to the clip, recorded and first published by Breitbart, Smith clarified further that black people voting for the Republican Party would be a great way to get both parties to pay attention to the racial demographic’s needs:

Black folks in America are telling one party, “We don’t give a damn about you.” They’re telling the other party, “You’ve got our vote.” Therefore, you have labeled yourself “disenfranchised” because one party knows they’ve got you under their thumb. The other party knows they’ll never get you and nobody comes to address your interest.

During his impassioned monologue, Smith likened blacks voting for Republicans to customers “shopping around,” essentially asking shops to “cater to them” so that they will do business.

“We don’t do that with politics,” he lamented, “and then we blame white America for our disenfranchisement.”

In the 2012 election, 93% of black voters supported President Barack Obama, with just 6 percent casting their ballots for the losing Republican ticket. That disparity led the Republican Party to publish an autopsy report detailing ways it can try to win over more votes from minority groups.
12756260, RE: Stephen A. Smith Wants Every Black to Vote GOP for One Election
Posted by Tiggerific, Thu Mar-19-15 10:15 AM
Maybe if they actually had a candidate worth voting for, maybe we would. But that's highly unlikely because the democrats at least have some of our interests in their party planning. Republicans have NONE!!!
12756267, Exactly
Posted by nipsey, Thu Mar-19-15 10:19 AM
The problem is, the GOP's values do not intersect with most Black folks' interests IMO or most of America to be honest. It amazes me that people vote against their interests. Yes the Dems take the "minority" vote for granted. But at least their platform is more likely to address and benefit the concerns of those underrepresented groups.
12756261, While the Dems do take us for granted and give only a handful of fucks
Posted by John Forte, Thu Mar-19-15 10:15 AM
the other guys fucking hate us and would do irreparable damage if given free reign. Supreme Court Justices sit for a very long time. Can't fix that shit in the next election cycle.
12756264, RE: Stephen A. Smith Wants Every Black to Vote GOP for One Election
Posted by DaHeathenOne76, Thu Mar-19-15 10:16 AM
". . . According to the clip, recorded and first published by Breitbart"
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12756270, Of course they report on it to support their narrative
Posted by nipsey, Thu Mar-19-15 10:20 AM
but SAS did say those things. And I'm not surprised as this dude has been a caricature for quite some time now.
12756268, Nigga Please
Posted by Cenario, Thu Mar-19-15 10:20 AM
12756273, Underrated Reply ^^^
Posted by nipsey, Thu Mar-19-15 10:21 AM
12756272, This assumes we vote Democratic out of loyalty rather than the Republicans
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Thu Mar-19-15 10:21 AM
being so god awful.

Like I hated during the last election that the fact that black people 95% voted for BHO was used as a sign that there is something wrong with Black People and not something wrong with the Republicans.

All Aboard!!!! Just joking. Mostly.


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12756285, Why couldnt SAS suggest we vote for the Green Party or something
Posted by Starks dunked on Bulls, Thu Mar-19-15 10:30 AM
independent? Why Republican?
12756296, There's no grey in his world. Only black and white.
Posted by MEAT, Thu Mar-19-15 10:37 AM
He spends a large part of his day either arguing with or preparing to argue with another loud idiot in Skip Bayless.
12756297, ^^^
Posted by teefiveten, Thu Mar-19-15 10:38 AM
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12756355, Frankly, I think that would be more effective.
Posted by spades, Thu Mar-19-15 11:26 AM
12756710, QUITE Frankly, u think that would be more effective.
Posted by Jon, Thu Mar-19-15 02:49 PM
12756359, exactly, so myopic, think outside the box
Posted by blkprinceMD05, Thu Mar-19-15 11:30 AM
12756425, Reparations is the cause & the GP is the future
Posted by Binlahab, Thu Mar-19-15 12:20 PM
write that shit down.


does it really matter?

wonder what bin's doing?
http://i.imgur.com/phECCMp.jpg
12756735, Why would he do that? He's a mega hypeman 4 hardcore capitalism
Posted by Jon, Thu Mar-19-15 03:01 PM
.
12756873, because everything around us pushes us for a or b 1 or 2
Posted by GriftyMcgrift, Thu Mar-19-15 05:34 PM
yes or no

theres no nuance, why as a politician whos sole goal in life is to maintain the status quo would you want a voting based that had any kind of critical thinking or ability to see beyond black and white



polarization is a very useful tool
12757466, my thoughts exactly...
Posted by gumz, Fri Mar-20-15 12:00 PM
that would send a bigger message
12756306, I have really come to loathe this argument...
Posted by Marbles, Thu Mar-19-15 10:42 AM

>From what I’ve read, Barry Goldwater is going against Lyndon
>B. Johnson. He’s your Republican candidate; he is completely
>against the civil rights movement. Lyndon B. Johnson was in
>favor of it — civil rights legislation. What happens is, he
>wins office, Barry Goldwater loses office, but there was a
>Senate, a Republican Senate, that pushed the votes to the
>president’s desk. It was the Democrats who were against
>civil rights legislation — the southern Dixiecrats. So
>because President Lyndon B. Johnson was a Democrat, black
>America assumed the Democrats were for it.

12756312, Probably because it's a narrative and not the story.
Posted by MEAT, Thu Mar-19-15 10:47 AM
Our culture mainly revolves around presenting and debating narratives. For people with even basic critical thinking needs this can be frustrating.
12756366, In Other Words, Sacrifice 4 Years To Prove a Point
Posted by RexLongfellow, Thu Mar-19-15 11:34 AM
And say if black people voted for the GOP to teach democrats a lesson...would they be better off teaching a lesson to democrats, or enduring the possible devastating legislation the GOP will pass, which might last a lot longer?

It's an argument that doesn't seem well thought out.
12756381, progressives did this. it was called Nader. we got Bush. i'm
Posted by poetx, Thu Mar-19-15 11:49 AM
losing patience w/ faux-deep mfers in 2015.


peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

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I'm an advocate for working smarter, not harder. If you just
focus on working hard you end up making someone else rich and
not having much to show for it. (c) mad
12756373, I don't listen to stephen a smith on sports
Posted by Rjcc, Thu Mar-19-15 11:43 AM
why would I care what he says about politics?

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
12756387, i'm sayin
Posted by Cenario, Thu Mar-19-15 11:54 AM
12756568, ^^^ Yep. This too. n/m
Posted by Marbles, Thu Mar-19-15 01:51 PM
12756390, SAS should join up w/ Lupe to create a Smart Dumb Nigga Supergroup.
Posted by poetx, Thu Mar-19-15 11:56 AM

peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

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I'm an advocate for working smarter, not harder. If you just
focus on working hard you end up making someone else rich and
not having much to show for it. (c) mad
12756445, except Lupe is actually smart
Posted by astralblak, Thu Mar-19-15 12:37 PM
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12756926, He is so smart he doesn't even need to vote
Posted by imo, Thu Mar-19-15 07:27 PM
12756436, They both partners with no conscious
Posted by Atillah Moor, Thu Mar-19-15 12:30 PM
Republicans were once in support of black folks, but now anti-black and the Democrats were anti-black but are now supposedly black supportive or inclusive.

In the streets that's called a shell game.
12756560, I'm rich with nothing to lose. lets try a social experiment, guys!
Posted by Mynoriti, Thu Mar-19-15 01:45 PM
12756597, LOL
Posted by Starks dunked on Bulls, Thu Mar-19-15 02:02 PM
>
12756966, lol
Posted by blkprinceMD05, Thu Mar-19-15 09:25 PM
12756573, RE: the southern Dixiecrats = today's republicans
Posted by bentagain, Thu Mar-19-15 01:52 PM
they left the party after the civils rights act passed

Bull Connor and all nem were Democrats

=/=

sheeeeiiittt, Reagan started as a democrat

why is SAS talking about politics?

he's hardly ever right about sports.
12756580, this dude should be a janitor somewhere, but he'd probably fuck that up
Posted by J_Stew, Thu Mar-19-15 01:54 PM
I'm not sure if I've ever heard him be right about anything

Edit: no offense se to janitors, that's an admirable job
12756595, ... But it keeps Republicans from covertly denying voting rights to black people...
Posted by Kira, Thu Mar-19-15 02:01 PM
... Under the pretext of fighting "voter fraud".

We should force both parties to capitulate to us in the same manner as other constituencies. If you want our vote then here is what we want. Involvement in both parties is the ideal situation.....

With that said, I'm not voting for none of this tea party bullshit. I want to sing kumbaya with everyone as well but not at the expense of my heritage. GOP leadership has a long-term perception problem that needs reconciling with an ever-changing electorate.
12756599, How would we do that?
Posted by GirlChild, Thu Mar-19-15 02:03 PM
When the republican party keeps trying to take away our ability to vote?
12756606, I wish we'd stop looking nationally and start focusing on local politics
Posted by Frobert, Thu Mar-19-15 02:06 PM
Congress has finally realized the power of the filibuster and the national electorate is bitterly divided. For now and probably the near future, national politics is hopeless. There might be a few things that a president can do unilaterally to help black people, but they're small scale and would only help on the margins. State and local politics is where any real change would come from.

Also, I wish our commentators would get more specific about what action they want taken and what the specific roadblocks are. In this case, I want to know what specific legislation does Stephen A Smith want the Dems to pass, and what is it keeping them from passing it, and will they be better situated to pass it after our 4-year defection? I think getting a sharper view of the nature of the problem would help us better tackle it. And it's much easier to rally your allies or even spark a political movement when there's a defined goal and a viable plan of action.
12756736, SaS, Common, raven, pharrell... is there a reverse drop squad
Posted by Riot, Thu Mar-19-15 03:01 PM
goin around?

or the plot of undercover brother is coming true


i think i heard more idiotic statements in the last 6 months than the last 6 years



and that list is just the major ones that i could fit in the subj line, theres a dozen more that go in the same pile
12756804, If I had a little more time I might splice some footage together from
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Thu Mar-19-15 04:11 PM
that movie.

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"One of the most important things in life is what Judge Learned Hand described as 'that ever-gnawing inner doubt as to whether you're r
12756889, drop squad or undercover brother?
Posted by Riot, Thu Mar-19-15 05:53 PM
12756890, RE: SaS, Common, raven, pharrell... is there a reverse drop squad
Posted by neuro_OSX, Thu Mar-19-15 05:56 PM
exactly!! Fools coming out the woodwork talking much shit... They being paid off? LOL
12756794, dumbass logic
Posted by wluv, Thu Mar-19-15 04:00 PM
this fool needs to stay in his lane
12756874, you mean choosing your political leaders solely based on spite
Posted by GriftyMcgrift, Thu Mar-19-15 05:34 PM
isnt a good thing?
12756888, Knucklehead Smiffff needs to stay in his lane!!!
Posted by neuro_OSX, Thu Mar-19-15 05:52 PM
He wants to be an expert in everything! FOH !!
12756891, I'm gonna make it simply as possible
Posted by Binlahab, Thu Mar-19-15 06:05 PM
I'm serious about three subjects in life, my kids, my money and reparations. For all my fans who love them some bin, ignore me for once and listen to what I'm saying.

Very simple, SAS political math is correct. But he sees what is...not what could be.

Yes we should pay more attention and give more support votes and donations to a broader spectrum of political ideas. Hwvr, the GOP is in the wrong direction. Gay marriage is here. Abortion is here. Immigration issues need to be resolved because thats here. Legal weed is here

What's missing? Our shit. Who is making a strong case for progress on prison or justice system reforms? Who is talking about expanding the voting rolls, re enfranchising the literally millions of us across the country in the system that can't participate in the process right now? Who is denouncing the constant war footing we on as a country?

Most importantly who needs us...and will make reparations part of their base platform?

You guessed it! - og maco

The green party.

There is a green party chapter near you that you can walk in the door from day one and contribute. If you want a solution to the situation we are in as a people and in this country...the green party really is the answer... And needs your support. On a local level. That movement is starting now...and getting stronger. Get active in it and be a part of this history.

*drops mic*

12756993, i wholeheartedly support greens and true progressives on local
Posted by poetx, Thu Mar-19-15 10:44 PM
levels.

by all means. get onto them city councils, zoning boards, dog catcheration and all that good shit.

in NATIONAL elections (and statewide when it is the difference between putting republicans in office) the third party ish is hustling backwards.

everybody voting republican made sense when malcolm floated it. it doesn't now.

republicans fuck over their own ostensible constituency of poor, ignorant whites who vote for them in outrageous numbers.

they REALLY not going to change their politics or policies if we flock to them en masse.

and so the national elections come down to governing. again, it felt good for liberals and progressives to say FUCK YOU BILL CLINTON with your DLC, triangulating, pseudo-centrist, overton window shifting bullshit.

but nader (in tandem w/ al gore's ineptitude ) got us bush.

if the other side of the coin were motherfuckers we just didn't like but who just did shit differently, yeah, we could take a swing on a far left candidate. in this case, these mfers are so crazy (starting mad wars and completely fuckign over the economy, supreme court, appeals courts, etc), this is not a viable, sane option.

democrats need to be challenged on the left at the local level. i'm glad the blue dogs got largely purged in the off year election, but i can't let disaffection lead to some more bullshit like 8 yrs of bush.

those were real ass consequences. and ppl still dying from all of those fucked up wheels put in motion.


peace & blessings,

x.

www.twitter.com/poetx

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I'm an advocate for working smarter, not harder. If you just
focus on working hard you end up making someone else rich and
not having much to show for it. (c) mad
12756991, But based on the history and the tendencies of voting, he's not off base
Posted by Case_One, Thu Mar-19-15 10:31 PM

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"And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful." ~ 2 Tim 2:4
12760520, Stephen A. Smith Doubles Down on his stupidity (VIDEO)
Posted by nipsey, Tue Mar-24-15 10:03 AM
He just doesn't get it. Shouldn't surprise me though.



http://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2015/03/21/smerconish-stephen-a-smith-03212015.cnn