>
>I disagree completely. People see the completely ignorant
>position he took on the matter because he kept talking about
>putting up your own money and investing in yourself while
>ignoring the fact that you have to first obtain that money, or
>that you still need to live, eat, feed your family, etc in the
>process. Truth be told, he's straight up delusional because he
>couldn't answer where he first got his money! I assume he
>dealt drugs, and that's the foundation of the disconnect. It's
>like Mitt Romney pretending he was dirt poor and pulled
>himself up by his trust old bootstraps and didn't have daddies
>money behind him.


You can't speak for all people in this instance, only people who think like you. And your whole notion just further proves my point! Part of the problem is that he speaks in absolutes, while situations are different. I already established that.

>
>
>>But as far as the 9 to 5 shit, there's truth in that. A LOT.
>
>
>What truth, exactly?
>

The truth that ownership allows for more freedom and passing on to the next generation. You plan to pass your job to your kids? Can you hire your kid without getting it cleared thru multiple people if you don't own it?

>>So like I said, I take it for what it is. His main point to
>>Envy was that he (Envy) enjoys what he does and because of
>it
>>he's okay with the fact that he doesn't own or dictate it
>when
>>the reality is he can have both. I can accept that part as
>>true and move on with my day.
>
>It was a flawed character judgment though, and that was the
>teeth of the thing. He spoke about owning a radio station as
>though it's A. just that simple to pull off successfully, and
>B, that owning a radio station is even a sound investment to
>begin with. He's also ignoring the fact that there's a
>progression from point a to point b even as he spoke of a
>situation with his movie business where he wasn't always the
>boss. He spoke entirely in terms of character judgment and
>there's no truth to that judgment as far as I'm concerned.
>

Thats not what I got from that but you're free to.

>>Some people can't accept a truth about health from an
>>overweight person talking shit, but personally I can
>separate
>>the truth from the person even if they aren't the best
>>"representative".
>
>You're talking about this in a vacuum though. It's not as
>simple as "oh, his message was true but he was mean in the way
>he said it".
>
>The heart of Dash's message was the character judgment, the
>notion that Envy was somehow less of a man for having a job,
>for even working the very radio format he was using to spit
>his bullshit. He was talking down to a successful person for
>being less successful than himself and conveying the message
>that being the boss and owning your own shit is something
>simple and attainable, the money that it takes to get to that
>point is also simple and attainable, and anyone who doesn't
>attain these things is less of a man. That was the core
>message to be had there.

That's not what I got from it but you're free to.
>
>Meanwhile, as he shit on Envy and the format (selling gossip),
>he used that platform to promote his sons cookie. Let me call
>this plumber to fix this problem then shit on the plumber for
>not being a better man and owning his own plumbing business or
>shit on him for not doing something bigger/better. Him being
>mean really isn't the issue.

Yes, you can call a plumbing company for a plumber and tell the plumber that he could own his own plumbing company with your main fault being that you weren't nice about it and give him ALL the steps he needs to accomplish it. It won't make it any less true.

Look, my position is clear. I agree with some of what he said, not all he said and did. I provided direct links to what I agreed with. My point is that many people cannot separate the message from the messenger. Many people may agree with some of what he said as well, but can't overlook that he's an asshole. If that isn't you, then it ain't about you. I never said you HAD to agree with him. I said I did (in part). The title of this post is "Dame Dash is being a real asshole" NOT "Dame Dash is telling lies..." so yes, my point is that you can still take something away from what an asshole has said while he is in the act of being an asshole.