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12747062, RE: C'mon, son
Posted by vee-lover, Tue Mar-10-15 01:38 PM
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>>Dude, that is still a heavyweight vs a middleweight...Sugar
>>Ray Robinson lost to what you would call a C-list
>heavyweight
>>when he tried to become the 1st middleweight to beat a
>>heavyweight...and he lost too because that weight much of a
>>weight difference matters (plus Ray Robinson was extremely
>>fatigued because of the temperature in the ring)
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>He had fought his previous FIFTEEN FIGHTS at light
>heavyweight. Going up to face a soft-punching 220 lb
>Heavyweight is not that big of a deal.

Dude, do you realize the weight difference between a light HW and a HW (175-200+).,,

And you keep saying it's no big deal then explain why you can count on one hand the fighters who started out as a middleweight and moved up and won a fight against a HW...ppl have said that all the sudden weight gain and rapid weight loss to make weight in the other divisions contributed to Roy's decline
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>>Wasn't like he was going to make his 1st heavyweight
>>appearance against Lennox Lewis lmao
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>>>Floyd beat prime: Canelo, Hatton, Castillo, Coralles
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>>I said an all-time great fighter lol - the only one on this
>>list who qualifies as great is maybe Castillo who many feel
>>beat Floyd in their first fight...Corralles was still
>*green*
>>when he fought Floyd and so was Canelo...and Hatton was
>barely
>>a 'good' fighter lol
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>Hatton was an undefeated champ. I'd argue that the "slightly
>past their prime" dudes Floyd faced are better than the guys
>Roy beat. Cotto, DLH and Mosley >>> 90% of RJJ's resume.

Hatton was always overrated and he never fought outside of England (because they allowed him to use dirty fight tactics that he knew he couldn't get away with in the US) until he fought Floyd and he was never that good to begin with...he was knocked out for crying out loud by a *sparring partner* leading up to his fight w/Pacquiao who knocked him out cold w/one punch

Hell, Hatton was the last fighter Floyd knocked out (cleanly)...so that should tell you just how suspect his chin was

A young undefeated BHop was more of a test for a young Roy Jones than any of those fighters Floyd fought...DLH was 35 yrs old and Floyd only fought him because he was still the "cash cow" of the sport at that time...and Shane was damn near 40 yrs old when he fought Floyd lol...

And to be honest, most ppl were very surprised that Cotto still had something in the tank because before Roach starting training him he looked like a shot fighter stemming from the brutal beating he took from Margarito who had concrete in his gloves...everyone was saying why was he fighting Cotto instead of Manny because no one thought it would be much of a fight at that time
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