https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG-wq6SJqjU

Vid is going viral.

http://kfor.com/2015/03/08/video-appears-to-show-university-of-oklahoma-fraternity-singing-racist-chant/

Univ President responded:

https://twitter.com/President_Boren/status/574727487659204608

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"Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."

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I'm tryna be better off, not better than...

Since 1976

There was a guy who forced a white country club back home to give him a membership. He doesn't even use it, just fought them to get it to spite them.

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"Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."

That would be the only fit and correct punishment. That is some blatant and out of this world racism. I'm honestly disgusted.

I don't even know what sort of punishment can FIX that

Not, you know...OKPs Badu-derived "groupthink"

A number of those people may not even actually think that way, just succumbing to social pressure

But it arose genuinely somewhere, and that origin person(s) are probably intractably racist

>Not, you know...OKPs Badu-derived "groupthink"
>
>A number of those people may not even actually think that way,
>just succumbing to social pressure
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>But it arose genuinely somewhere, and that origin person(s)
>are probably intractably racist


Let my love slide in and never slip out

I rather hear how people really think rather then always wondering. And their Okie's. I wouldn't expect any different.

just want to know WHO doesn't like me so I know who to avoid and where.

I'll admit though, that my heart sunk when I first saw the video not because of what was said but that everyone was joining in. I'll bet at any given moment if they were to be asked they'd say "I have black friends".

does it really matter?

wonder what bin's doing?
http://i.imgur.com/phECCMp.jpg

Those unfortunate few who are clearly shown on camera will likely be expelled.

What makes this real bad is that this can't just be some isolated incident, even though that's what it will be sold as.

This is obviously part of the culture. It is a song they all know and practice that has be passed down generations.

>It is a song they all know and practice that has be passed down generations.

exactly.

So I assume the folks on the bus were on the way to a dance / formal or some such event. Could be one of the girls who filmed it.

Another possibility: One of the frat brothers filmed it. Either so supportive of the sentiment that they genuinely don't see what's wrong with posting it, or a whistleblower.

apparently it is in wide use among other chapters, too.
Not shocked.

now if only someone could get a camera on a bunch of these other cac frats/sororities they might just throw the whole system in the bushes.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_oHKuTVAAAddjO.jpg

And here's one of his black friends defending him because he's a good person http://twitter.com/brockwayporter/status/574784350488760320

http://twitter.com/TheLegendOfCody/status/574797543793553411

http://twitter.com/sheldon_tg/status/574782192854958080

http://twitter.com/maggieb94/status/574798031075213312

http://twitter.com/maggieb94/status/574796539203338240

and the non whites on the other. Poor kids-- they still have much to learn.

i said to myself he definitely looks like a brady, taylor, randy or parker.

BOOM.

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I guess we won't know for sure until some overzealous person tweets that he's an "Uncle Tom".

Let my love slide in and never slip out

From when I posted it originally. I'm not referring to the white man quoting his ststement and telling him to delete his Twitter.

Previously it was a selfie of a black man in a car, pretty safe to assume that it was him.

Na Na Na Naaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

drinking doesn't help matters either

mostly, Im not shocked or offended when I come across the word used online by white folks. maybe Im numb to it, or maybe Im more offended by the closet racists who ironically love music about the worst black conditions

https://vid.me/8Dm5

Bah gawd!!! (c) Jim Ross

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At least put a shirt on.

Oh

Good to see everyone's got their priorities straight

They will be expelled before too long. Most of the kids from the house have already left campus/the school like a fart in the night.

The house is locked up tight, I think.

I expect some members will be expelled.

"If you wanna help us, fine. Sit down with your kids and make 'em study at night...otherwise, shoot THIS mothaf*cka!" (c) Morgan Freeman,

SAE was founded shortly before the American Civil War.

Those students wont learn a damn thing except not get caught. Maybe they will be shunned socially but only a short time because outrage fatigue. They will still get good jobs hell probably do the hiring and firing.

Among their ranks are T. Boone Pickens, Jr. and Phil Jackson (yes that one), yeah they gon' be alright

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>SAE was founded shortly before the American Civil War.
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>Those students wont learn a damn thing except not get caught.
>Maybe they will be shunned socially but only a short time
>because outrage fatigue. They will still get good jobs hell
>probably do the hiring and firing.
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>Among their ranks are T. Boone Pickens, Jr. and Phil Jackson
>(yes that one), yeah they gon' be alright
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>huh

So...

can you imagine the outrage if the fraternity did not respond of the university was complacent about all of this?

i think the students should also be expelled

That the university and the frat didn't try sweeping this under the rug. They got on it and acted fairly appropriately.

That whiteness in check!!

and we can't erase 200 years of their history or kill them off so this is as good as it gets and I'm impressed by their swiftness.

>That the university and the frat didn't try sweeping this
>under the rug. They got on it and acted fairly appropriately.
>
>
>That whiteness in check!!


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this is like swiftly cutting off a gangrenous foot before it kills you. both the university and the frat need this out of the news as quickly as possible before it sheds too much light on the whole thing. only way to do that is for some low-level heads to roll loudly and immediately.

they're doing the right thing because there's no other thing to do.

even where it's obvious what the entities should've done.

so good on OU and SAE for not trying it.

"Well they're just covering their ass so no props"

i mean wtf. Publicly stating and demonstrating that the shit is unacceptable, and doing it immediately, is a step forward.

Great that the fighting is paused, but no one believes the fighting is done. Both sides love it too much and in this case one side loves it a whole hell of a lot.

>this is like swiftly cutting off a gangrenous foot before it
>kills you. both the university and the frat need this out of
>the news as quickly as possible before it sheds too much light
>on the whole thing. only way to do that is for some low-level
>heads to roll loudly and immediately.
>
>they're doing the right thing because there's no other thing
>to do.


Let my love slide in and never slip out

or give a soft ass slap on the wrist.

Shocking

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http://www.reddit.com/r/Austin/comments/2vdcmm/just_some_utexas_fraternity_pledge_rules/cogo0pq

in case his comment gets deleted
http://www.reddit.com/r/Austin/comments/2vdcmm/just_some_utexas_fraternity_pledge_rules/cogo0pq

hopefully that comment blows up.

https://twitter.com/MikeEvans25/status/574791659617193984

we all knew. But still good that more and more people come out.

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become the FACE of this sh*t lol all the other members bout to try to slide out of this sh*t like rev oates in new jack city

"If you wanna help us, fine. Sit down with your kids and make 'em study at night...otherwise, shoot THIS mothaf*cka!" (c) Morgan Freeman,

is sitting on probably half a mil (after expenses?).

and do the biggest titty signing event Sturgis has ever seen.

>and do the biggest titty signing event Sturgis has ever seen.
>

LOL!

"If you wanna help us, fine. Sit down with your kids and make 'em study at night...otherwise, shoot THIS mothaf*cka!" (c) Morgan Freeman,

but when you see the national response, the swift response of the University (on a Sunday at that) - we should at least be able to acknowledge that some things have indeed changed, and champion that progressive spirit.

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As if it should get points because it's not lynching minorities and have allowed them to drink in the same water fountain.

We saw it with all the post racial America talk and how many non-minority millenials aka the next generation of politicians and bosses don't see America as racist at all despite ignoring all the signs that the new Jim Crow is judicial and political. The one good thing about the recent run of media paying attention police brutality deaths is that it's been a reality check.

Every time the 'We've gotten better/we've moved past that' talk starts its less about acknowledging how we as a society has moved forward, but more about covering up the mutated forms modern institutionalized racism is now.

and really neither should OU or SAE.

still, it's worth noting that the university and the frat handled the situation in the way that we want them to. right?

positive reinforcement - it's what's for dinner.

if more institutions handle racist events by ppl who are under their authority the way that OU and SAE handled this we might see fewer racist events. or at least we'll see less turmoil and protest and all of that in the wake of racist events b/c the public will have confidence that authority figures are going to handle the situation w/o being goaded into it.

as you know all of the drama and protest we saw in the wake of the recent events between white cops and unarmed black dudes happened b/c the authorities at issue didn't act against the perpetrators after the community had asked for action.

So i get what you are saying and I agree that racism is alive and well, I think anyone who thinks otherwise or thinks the whole mentality of spewing evil towards the "unknown" whether its race, sexual orientation or whatever....THAT will never change. Its human. Thats how we are. The respect for life is what has to change, and that definitely has changed, is it where we want it? No not at all but to say it hasn't gotten better is idiotic. You cannot compare the way it is now to what a 70-80 yearold person lived through, so just stop.


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>The respect for life is
>what has to change, and that definitely has changed, is it
>where we want it? No not at all but to say it hasn't gotten
>better is idiotic. You cannot compare the way it is now to
>what a 70-80 yearold person lived through, so just stop.

Is that true? The recent spat of police brutality issues is less about the actual brutality(because there will always be asshole cops), but the shrugworthy response the police and society at large gave to the point where AS many folks rallied behind the cops because obviously in that kind of confrontation (black male, white cop) of course he had to fear from his life.

The thing is, you can't start giving pats on the back with things as fucked up as they are now.

we seem unreasonable.

plus there are plenty of them who want to do right by us but don't know exactly how - or so they say. if we use this incident and the university and the frat's action as examples it helps to head off that line of thought. b/c here's an example of correct action.

but im specifically talking about the statement of the state of race relations being worse than it has been in the past. that is all.


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But you are right since no one is siccing dogs, turning water hoses on or lynching us anymore. Movie theaters dont get burned down if an interethnic couple is shown; It has gotten better.


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>But you are right since no one is siccing dogs, turning water
>hoses on or lynching us anymore. Movie theaters dont get
>burned down if an interethnic couple is shown; It has gotten
>better.

i mean, hellz yeah that means things have gotten better!

does it mean we're in the Promised Land? no. but yes, things are better than they were in the Jim Crow era. we can acknowledge that (acquiescently or reluctantly even) w/o capitulating to whitey.

it's ok.

b/c things are better due to OUR action, not b/c whitey gave us anything willingly.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=kga2soqvMF0

but the response to this has been swift and appropriate.

>We saw it with all the post racial America talk and how many
>non-minority millenials aka the next generation of politicians
>and bosses don't see America as racist at all despite ignoring
>all the signs that the new Jim Crow is judicial and political.

Yes - that group does exist and needs to be addressed. But
there's also a very large group that doesn't think like that
that exists (yet subsequently gets little to no media buzz).

While there is an extreme that says racism is over and it
shouldn't be factored into our politic, there is also another
extreme that says nothing has changed and the racial climate
is basically more/less what it was in 1950 - that also is not true
and is destructive to the composite narrative of 2015 American
society.

> The one good thing about the recent run of media paying
>attention police brutality deaths is that it's been a reality
>check.
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>Every time the 'We've gotten better/we've moved past that'
>talk starts its less about acknowledging how we as a society
>has moved forward, but more about covering up the mutated
>forms modern institutionalized racism is now.

Definitely has been good to confront it, and it's something that
will need to be confronted 50, 100, 200 years from now. However,
you will *always* be able to find instances of racism - and I don't think
it's productive to always cherry-pick instances of racism and then placate
it all over the news like 'THIS IS HOW AMERICA IS! ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE LIKE THIS
DEEP DOWN INSIDE!" < That's akin to the GOP playbook which only covers
modern-day Islam when there's an ISIS beheading on some "this is how these Muslims
are!! See!!"

We need to balance the narrative out so that it's an accurate reflection of where
modern society really is in America. That includes giving police brutality headline
coverage for sure, but it also includes highlighting stories where progressive culture
does exist - because America ain't all SAE frat-boys singing stories of lynchings, and
we do our culture a disservice when we say it is.


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i dunno that we need more balance in the reporting - i think we push for more spotlight on racist bullshit b/c the way i see it the media and the general culture does what it can to ignore the existence of racist bullshit unless we put pressure on them or unless the facts are so aggravating folks are reminded of prior incidents where we applied pressure on them to act. that's part of what motivates ppl to keep the pressure on and not let up when it comes to these stories. so i get it.

i think this story is worth telling b/c it can be used as an example of the sort of action we're pushing for in the wake of racist bullshit. but not b/c i think the university or the frat's act is reflective of where we are as a society.

we should (and we do) - but we should also have other stories
that document a different emerging culture, because that
culture does exist, and it shouldn't always take a back seat
just because the racial stories tend to get our collective blood
boiling. I also think that it must be acknowledged that the coverage
of racism is excellent business -- we love a good racial conflict in
America, but I'm not so sure that how we're presently covering racism is
doing enough to actually combat racism.

But I definitely agree that there has been a need to expose racism
in a very direct way by giving all these stories mainstream publicity,
because that shows that we aren't afraid to address and confront
racism and acknowledge that it still is alive and well in many
parts of the country. I think we've done that - but I think we're
nearing a time where we're in need of new narratives to push
the discussion forward.

>i think this story is worth telling b/c it can be used as an
>example of the sort of action we're pushing for in the wake of
>racist bullshit. but not b/c i think the university or the
>frat's act is reflective of where we are as a society.

agreed.


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>we should (and we do) - but we should also have other
>stories
>that document a different emerging culture, because that
>culture does exist, and it shouldn't always take a back seat
>just because the racial stories tend to get our collective
>blood
>boiling.

that story is already being told - all of the stories about 'post racial america' are that story. and it's told in other ways like the story about some white cop who hugged a black girl in nyc during eric garner unrest. as the fuck if. that story is told for sure.

>that story is already being told - all of the stories about
>'post racial america' are that story. and it's told in other
>ways like the story about some white cop who hugged a black
>girl in nyc during eric garner unrest. as the fuck if. that
>story is told for sure.

I'm not talking about "post-racial" america - that's a false-narrative.

I'm talking about those who seek to transcend race (not ignore it). There's a difference between "post-racial" nonsense and "trans-racial" theory. Trans-racial theory acknowledges
that racism exists and is conscious of the history of race as a control mechanism, but doesn't accept it as a universal law or a reality that is destined to forever plague and divide society. You can't conquer race by pretending it doesn't exist. But you also can't conquer race by legitimizing it to the point where it's posited as an inextinguishable mechanism.


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>While there is an extreme that says racism is over and it
>shouldn't be factored into our politic, there is also another
>extreme that says nothing has changed and the racial climate
>is basically more/less what it was in 1950 - that also is not
>true
>and is destructive to the composite narrative of 2015
>American
>society.

We are by far a nation of deniers and it goes ACROSS the board even beyond race.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/09/politics/florida-officials-climate-change-banned/

and to a certain extent I don't necessarily mind the 'ALL WHITE PEOPLE SUCK' narrative. The issues at play are less about the KKK variety widescreen hollywood racism but the people who would swear on their childrens lives they are not racist but see the recent glut of media coverage of police brutality as anomalies and the protestors as rabble rousers, lol.

We, Americans as a whole, have so much blood on our hands that we passively shrug off because it "wasn't us" when we all benefit. We need to feel more guilty, not less.

But i also refuse to accept that the generation I'm in is basically
the same in thought, philosophy, and principle to the baby-boomers
who preceded us. That isn't my experience, and I've lived in multiple
parts of the country, attended both white schools and HBCU/black schools - lived
in both white and black (and latino) communities. I see America as
being on the brink of an emerging and massive demographic shift - and the fight
of the foreseeable future is definitely one to be waged in the political and judicial
battlefronts - because that is precisely where we need a revolution to truly
impact society and change Jim Crow rooted policies that you referred to.

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All of these kids are young. The fact the song performance is so wide spread (see: reddit link in the post) tells me the kids aren't as far advanced as I want them to be. And this video and the fall out are a great lesson for all of them.

>All of these kids are young. The fact the song performance is
>so wide spread (see: reddit link in the post) tells me the
>kids aren't as far advanced as I want them to be. And this
>video and the fall out are a great lesson for all of them.

These kids haven't progressed at all, but are they representative
of American en-masse in terms of where we are in 2015 versus
1955? I don't think so.

in 1955 there would be absolutely no consequences to their actions.

There will *always* be racism, and there will always be people like this
keeping the regressive legacy of Jim Crow and the "South Will Rise
Again" alive - but they are a dying breed and dwindling in numbers -
and I think the national response to them is starting to tell the story
that this won't be tolerated. It should be a warning notice that if you
think like this: *we* (the successors of baby-boom governance and the
conquerors of Jim Crow) are coming for you.

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watch that video-- those kids are psyched! Their kids will be psyched and their kids, kids. Most of them want it to be this way.

>watch that video-- those kids are psyched! Their kids will be
>psyched and their kids, kids. Most of them want it to be this
>way.

yea i saw it.

So you think that most American white boys in America in 2015 are just like these SAE clowns?


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I'd like to see the data you're referring to.

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http://themonkeycage.org/2013/07/15/trayvon-martin-and-the-burden-of-being-a-black-male/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/08/25/three-quarters-of-whites-dont-have-any-non-white-friends/

http://igpa.uillinois.edu/system/files/Trends%20in%20Racial%20Attitudes_3-4A.pdf

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/03/04/17-disturbing-statistics-from-the-federal-report-on-ferguson-police/

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/07/18/chart-of-the-week-the-black-white-gap-in-incarceration-rates/

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/08/21/us/ferguson-poll.html?_r=0

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/lifestyle/general_lifestyle/july_2013/more_americans_view_blacks_as_racist_than_whites_hispanics

http://www.people-press.org/2003/05/14/conflicted-views-of-affirmative-action/

https://today.yougov.com/news/2014/06/02/reparations/

when you factor in Americas beautiful history of hatred then I think the picture is quite clear.

I've definitely seen this data - but the question is: does this prove that
younger whites in 2015 are as racist as younger whites in 1955? I don't think it does.

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However, time will tell I guess.

there are just "less" in relation to the whole

and those whites in 1955 are still alive, so, yeah...

>there are just "less" in relation to the whole
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>and those whites in 1955 are still alive, so, yeah...


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It's also change when you take the "whites only" sign from the window and put it under the counter-- it's still in the store, but it's location has changed. The same metaphor can easily be applied to America.

not on a bus with all of their simp friends who think just like them.
Cowards never espouse their true beliefs in diverse settings.

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they get all hyphy in front of their simp-ass frat-boys - but they wouldn't
have the guts to say this out loud to a general group. I wish they would,
because it's much easier to deal with an honest/upfront racist than
a closeted/cowardly one.


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If folks are out there ACTUALLY fighting for a cause then they will definitely get their props but simply not partaking in acts bigotry isn't going to earn anyone props. Otherwise, I should be crying foul every time women are slandering men when some dude gets charged for date raping a women since I don't partaking in those type of activities.

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Sure the kids deserved to be punished, but I'm not going to assume it was an issue of "right and wrong". Sometimes it's better to bring the hammer down quickly to quell the bad press. Journalists (and "activists") start digging into stories like these and may eventually find other stuff.

Let my love slide in and never slip out

i'm fine if that's the case. if the university or the frat took action b/c they didn't want to face public scorn or bad press then that's great. it means we're winning. b/c we're behind the public scorn and the bad press too. that's us at work.

>i'm fine if that's the case. if the university or the frat
>took action b/c they didn't want to face public scorn or bad
>press then that's great. it means we're winning. b/c we're
>behind the public scorn and the bad press too. that's us at
>work.



Let my love slide in and never slip out

You can make them act right.

>You can make them act right.


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http://newsok.com/article/5399784

asking to turn off the camera.

every single student caught singing who is identifiable in this video
should be expelled.

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Going no, no, no, at the end of the video.

We need names so someone tell black twitter to get to work.

there are multiple instances where someone found a facebook page screenshot or anything.

How about Marcus or Derrick?


And the info is already coming out

those calling for expulsion (i'm not mad at you btw)

outside of the kid on camera, how are you going to positively ascertain and prove identities of people singing?

do you propose expelling or punishing everyone on the bus?

even if someone flips and names names, without actual on-camera evidence to prove participation, I don't see them getting individual punishment.

... The university cannot leave a perception that any support for active racism exists on their campus. This has an impact on their football program which in turn brings in money for the state. Clean house... literally.

also a visible face on camera does not = a visible face singing.
i'm just saying this may not (and probably should not) be a swift resolution with heads on spikes as people would like.

why wouldn't it logically follow to expel the responsible students in that
fraternity, if they can be readily identified.

It's a stretch to say that every student on the bus should be expelled, but
there are a handful of identifiable students who can clearly be identified
singing and carrying the chant. Are they not violating the the university's
stated principles in the same manner that caused the university to banish
the fraternity?


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if one can show it is sanctioned behavior of the frat
(which i think we can all safely assume it was).

and i think it makes sense to expel any kids caught on camera singing.

but were i representing a random kid on that bus
i would say the school has no factual basis for expelling my client simply because he happened to be on a bus (or in a fraternity) with racists.

expulsion is a pretty high consequence, so imo they need a lot more than "we heard a lot of your homies singing so you probably were too".

>but were i representing a random kid on that bus
>i would say the school has no factual basis for expelling my
>client simply because he happened to be on a bus (or in a
>fraternity) with racists.

and you'd win, and rightfully so. There are likely kids on that bus
who were disgusted by the chant, like the person who recorded this
and likely was so disgusted that they wanted to out these simps.

>expulsion is a pretty high consequence, so imo they need a lot
>more than "we heard a lot of your homies singing so you
>probably were too".

agreed.


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Should be seen as equivalent

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Mostly because a university's policies regarding charter recognition are not extended to all individual students. As individuals, they are subject to the general student code of conduct.

There are lots of things that a greek org can do to get a charter revoked, that when done by individual students results in probation. Charters have been revoked without expelling students, and Ive seen it firsthand a number of times. Underage drinking is the first one that pops in my head. Now something like hazing is usually interpreted as violence against a fellow student, and there is almost always specific language in the code of conduct regarding violence.

All that being said, im not arguing for or against any particular action against these people.

but i haven't read the school's code of conduct to know if there's been an alleged violation here and i dunno the process either so i dunno if the school has enough proof to expel the students should the code allow it.

Preferably in a minority community.

http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/authors/carlson.jpg

"If you wanna help us, fine. Sit down with your kids and make 'em study at night...otherwise, shoot THIS mothaf*cka!" (c) Morgan Freeman,

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http://www.cato.org/people/tucker-carlson

being murdered on his own show by Jon Stewart

and that's how it got on the web...

My brothers of Sigma down at the Univ. of Oklahoma have been complaining for YEARS about the systematic racism on campus. Hopefully this changes things...but I'm not that naïve. There is still plenty of work to do to say the least...

This guy especially. Same name and he goes to Oklahoma STATE University lol.

http://i.imgur.com/DvC2VN3.png

something on the internet and take it as true..and then don't correct themselves when they are disproven.
cause i swear if i see one more story about puffy suing empire


"If you wanna help us, fine. Sit down with your kids and make 'em study at night...otherwise, shoot THIS mothaf*cka!" (c) Morgan Freeman,

White dudes with last names for first names will always be just fine.

>White dudes with last names for first names will always be
>just fine.

>White dudes with last names for first names will always be
>just fine.

Trying to figure out how much I can get away with.

You're not exactly Eddie, or Steve, but you're also not untouchable like Carter, Grayson, and Brinkley.

Guess I wasn't cut out for consequenceless racism.

If you want to hold your camera vertically its your choice. I don't see why people get so bent out of shape over it.

There isn't even a black person on the bus. So this what white kids do for fun? Be racist? It's bizarre.

you ever been around some cacs that weren't used to having black folks around?

At least not in my experience.

>At least not in my experience.

Good luck being the only blk dude walking past frat rows on Saturday night & not hearing racial slurs even in SoCal.

I stopped doing white frats games after the first one.

http://thegrio.com/2015/02/15/white-liberal-racists


There ya go, straight from the mouth of a shocked white liberal.

That is kind of an insane collection of ideas that guy recounts

The south/mlk bit was fascinating in its contradictory yet self-assured mindlessness

Someone is gonna punch that girl in the face one day lol

but I can't see how any American would be shocked by this...

What does a person have to do these days to prove that he is racist? It's not enough to show massive disrespect to the black President. Congress and the Supreme Court get away with that every State of the Union, and they can't be called racist. It's not enough to shoot unarmed black people, the cops do that all the time, and they can't be called racist.

Anymore, the only way you can call somebody a racist without racist people defending the racists is if the racist actually shouts the N-word in public and the utterance is caught on camera. Bonus points if you shout the N-word while singing and dancing about hanging black people.

Thank God Sigma Alpha Epsilon's University of Oklahoma chapter dared to go above and beyond to prove their racism. Thank God they actually sang a song. Because they pretty much could have done anything else without anybody suspending them or even complaining about racist behavior.

Think about the chant: "There will never be a n**** SAE." You think they just came up with that? You think that they just now decided, on a bus, to exclude black people? The national organization boasts about its Confederate ties. From the website:

"Of all existing national social fraternities today, Sigma Alpha Epsilon is the only national fraternity founded in the antebellum South."
Congratulations on all your success.

SAE didn't start being racist this weekend. But if I had suggested that a fraternity chapter in Oklahoma with a Confederate founding might be racist in its admissions policies towards black people, I'd have been accused of "playing the race card." Or "race baiting." Or some other stupid term made up by white people who don't like to think about racism. SAE had to turn their racism all the way up to 11, and get it caught on camera, before achieving something approaching universal condemnation.

David Boren, president of the University of Oklahoma, said:

"All of us will redouble our efforts to create the strongest sense of family and community... We vow that we will be an example to the entire country of how to deal with this issue. There must be zero tolerance for racism everywhere in our nation."
"Redouble" suggests that there are efforts already underway that can be enhanced. I somehow doubt that. I somehow doubt that there is "zero" tolerance for racism. There's quite a lot of tolerance for racism as long as people don't make it entirely obvious.

But there is zero tolerance for the use of the N-word. So I guess that will have to do.

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if someone had just reported this incident without video to SAE or OU, i doubt anyone would even get their wrist slapped. and there would definitely 100% be people-- some of the same people who are outraged now-- defending it as "boys will be boys."

leak the video and air it out in public, suddenly WE HAVE ZERO TOLERANCE and everyone's rushing to do the right thing. this is some "cuz we got caught" outrage.

stay woke, my negroes.

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/03/10/1369823/-Frat-which-declared-they-ll-never-be-a-nigg-r-in-SAE-recently-killed-hazed-black-pledgee-to-death?detail=twitter_sf

I mean they found dude alone-- I thought people pledged for friends yet no one came to this guys aid?

A stomach pump would have saved his life had someone cared enough about him.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/university-of-oklahoma-president-racist-chant-not-isolated-incident/

He was probably going to do this anyway...but yesssss to him doing it..haha!

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/four-star-recruit-jean-delance-decommits-from-oklahoma-following-racist-video-190902500.html

Four-star recruit Jean Delance decommits from Oklahoma following racist video
Graham Watson By Graham Watson
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Oklahoma football might already be feeling effects of the racial chant that caused a fraternity to be banned from campus.
Four-star offensive line recruit Jean Delance announced Monday he was decommiting from the Sooners and reopening his recruitment.


Delance originally committed to the Sooners in November, but has seen his stock rise in recent months and several more offers from FBS programs have rolled in. Texas and Texas A&M are considered the frontrunners for the Mesquite, Texas product.

It’s no coincidence that Delance’s decommitment for “personal reasons” came a day after a video surfaced that depicted an Oklahoma fraternity participating in a racial chant. That fraternity was banned from campus on Monday amid protests, which included several football players and coach Bob Stoops.

Bob Przybylo tweeted that he spoke to Delance, who said the video played a role in the decision.


A day before the video was posted to the Internet, Delance posted a couple pictures from a trip to Oklahoma, including a shot of him, his mother and Stoops.


However, Delance noted to SoonerScoop.com that Oklahoma coaches asked if he was still committed after he expressed interest in visiting other schools. Delance said he reaffirmed his commitment to Stoops and assistants Lincoln Riley and Bill Bedenbaugh.

While the football team showed solidarity in standing up against the racist incident and the swift action by Oklahoma president David Boren to disband the fraternity was commendable, it’s clear the football program is going to have to do some major damage control to separate the university from a rogue group of students.

For more Oklahoma news, visit SoonerScoop.com.

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http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2015/03/waka-flocka-flame-university-of-oklahoma-sigma-alpha-epsilon/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrkRbdRhAdE

Frats up and down comment sections on some
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The org was born out of the Confederacy in a way and takes pride in the fact that they are the only national fraternity born in the antebellum south

But my freshman year at Georgia Tech i was astounded during fraternity rush at how many ppl were so willing to drop N bombs in casual conversation. I heard it in maybe 4 houses of the 8-9 i visited and im fairly confident that at the bigger and less academically inclined schools like Alabama, UGA, Clemson, Tennessee...that ratio would have been a lot worse.

Probably a little innocence as well

But i had no experience with that kind of open relaxed racism to that point. I grew up in neighborhood that was majority black with white and indian families sprinkled in, and spent k-12 in a environment that was fairly liberal even for catholic school.

I also kind of assumed that a place like Tech would be above that sort of thing. I assumed people smart enough for that would be too intelligent to be racist.

That illusion was gone before my first day of class.

Did you just sit or stand there in silence and give a persona of agreement? Or did you take a stand for what was right and call folk out for their racist behavior?


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I was invited back to one or two (obviously they didnt realize why i had left) and i told them straight out i wouldnt be back to their racist house.

>I was invited back to one or two (obviously they didnt
>realize why i had left) and i told them straight out i wouldnt
>be back to their racist house.


No SNARK. That takes real guts. Most people won't say anything just to get along. But you took a stand and I'm glad to know it.




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https://vine.co/v/bg5KM7Fx7zJ

http://www.news9.com/story/28332784/news-9s-kelly-ogle-sits-down-with-sae-house-mom-and-barry-switzer

She'll get at least a quarter million in donations after all this is over with.

And OMG
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“What about … what are you saying to the members who come through?” Ogle asked.

“Just goodbye,” Gilbow said.

I'm sorry but that shit makes me laugh...

and FUCK Barry Switzer.. I loved the wishbone offense but he can eat a bag of dicks. You know he sang that shit

Is that like a maid?

http://media1.giphy.com/media/Q7taW80HtCDcY/200_s.gif


You knew the answer

that certainly doesn't help OUR case lol

"If you wanna help us, fine. Sit down with your kids and make 'em study at night...otherwise, shoot THIS mothaf*cka!" (c) Morgan Freeman,

>that certainly doesn't help OUR case lol
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>"If you wanna help us, fine. Sit down with your kids and make
>'em study at night...otherwise, shoot THIS mothaf*cka!" (c)
>Morgan Freeman,

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/10/us/oklahoma-racist-chant/index.html


Two University of Oklahoma students were expelled Tuesday for their alleged "leadership role" in a racist chant by Sigma Alpha Epsilon fraternity members, a decision that President David Boren says speaks to his school's "zero tolerance" policy for such "threatening racist behavior."

The expulsions come days after the video surfaced and hours before the midnight Tuesday deadline that SAE members were given to pack their bags and get out of their house.

It was only a nine-second clip, but the fallout has been disastrous.

The national chapter of SAE shuttered the house at OU, and Boren said the university's affiliation with the fraternity is permanently done.

"I was not only shocked and disappointed but disgusted by the outright display of racism displayed in the video," said Brad Cohen, the fraternity's national president. "SAE is a diverse organization, and we have zero tolerance for racism or any bad behavior."

Still, it could get worse. Oklahoma may not be the only source of embarrassment for the fraternity.



"Several other incidents with chapters or members have been brought to the attention of the headquarters staff and leaders, and each of those instances will be investigated for further action," SAE said.

The national chapter didn't provide details of the alleged incidents or where they are said to have taken place.

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"There's a fine line between persistence and foolishness..."
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"To Each His Reach"

their expulsion from the school for words they used that amounted to a violation of the school's code of conduct isn't a 1st amendment violation, i think, b/c the students aren't being deprived of any right by a government actor. if the state school had jailed them for saying 'nigger' then that'd be different. if the state school had seized any of the students' property that'd be different. if the school had fined them it'd be different.

all they lost is a privilege which was granted to them upon their agreement to abide by the school's code of conduct - which i assume details the various punishments to be levied by the school for violations, up to and including expulsion. the school has found they violated that code and so the students are expelled under the agreement between the students and the school.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/03/10/no-a-public-university-may-not-expel-students-for-racist-speech/

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"One of the most important things in life is what Judge Learned Hand described as 'that ever-gnawing inner doubt as to whether you're r

And I stand by what I said above - the students entered an agreement with OU to abide by the code of conduct or face expulsion among other penalties. Surely OU's attorneys are confident the school's act will withstand any court challenge. And to date I haven't heard of a suit being filed. But if it is a judge (or maybe a jury) will decide if there's been a constitutional violation here. I don't see one but I haven't researched the issue.

>"Several other incidents with chapters or members have been
>brought to the attention of the headquarters staff and
>leaders, and each of those instances will be investigated for
>further action," SAE said.
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>The national chapter didn't provide details of the alleged
>incidents or where they are said to have taken place.

I was waiting for this part of it. Like I posted before about the guy on reddit who said he knew SAE guys not from OU who sung the song. Throw in people on twitter coming forward about the song. All those little stories that would just fall on deaf ears if they came out any other time are now adding to the story. Hopefully they dont just "investigate" until people forget.

Video Appears To Show Oklahoma Frat's House Mom Chanting 'N***a' Several Times
The Huffington Post | By Katie Sola
Email
Posted: 03/10/2015 3:02 pm EDT Updated: 1 hour ago


Shortly after the house mother at the University of Oklahoma Sigma Alpha Epsilon fraternity chapter said she couldn't believe her charges sang a racist song, the school's newspaper drew attention to a video that appears to show the 78-year-old chanting the word "n***a" several times.

In an interview with CBS, Beauton Gilbow -- who said she's lived at fraternity house for 15 years -- tearfully told a reporter she was surprised by the actions of members filmed singing "There will never be a n***** in SAE" on a bus.

"I heard the words. Unbelievable. This is not... this is not SAE," she said.

Monday evening, the Daily Oklahoman published a video of what appears to be Gilbow chanting "n***a" seven times as Trinidad James' "All Gold Everything" plays in the background.

The lyrics to the song read "Don't believe me, just watch n***a, n***a, n***a," but the word is never repeated seven times.

Vine Link! https://vine.co/v/bg5KM7Fx7zJ



Vine user demi stevenson uploaded the video on Feb. 24, 2013. The University of Oklahoma student directory lists a Demi Leigh Stevenson as a junior in the College of Arts and Sciences. Emails to her school address were not returned.

Gilbow was not immediately available for comment.

On Monday, OU President David Boren decried the actions of the fraternity brothers seen in the video and announced the university had "severed" ties with the chapter. He ordered members to vacate the house. A statement from the school read, in part:

To those who have misused their free speech in such a reprehensible way, I have a message for you. You are disgraceful. You have violated all that we stand for. You should not have the privilege of calling yourselves “Sooners.” Real Sooners are not racist. Real Sooners are not bigots. Real Sooners believe in equal opportunity. Real Sooners treat all people with respect. Real Sooners love each other and take care of each other like family members.
Two students who were "identified as playing a leadership role in the singing of a racist chant" were expelled from the university Tuesday. "There is zero tolerance for this kind of threatening racist behavior at the University of Oklahoma," Boren said in a statement.



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>Video Appears To Show Oklahoma Frat's House Mom Chanting
>'N***a' Several Times
>The Huffington Post | By Katie Sola
>Email
>Posted: 03/10/2015 3:02 pm EDT Updated: 1 hour ago
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>Shortly after the house mother at the University of Oklahoma
>Sigma Alpha Epsilon fraternity chapter said she couldn't
>believe her charges sang a racist song, the school's newspaper
>drew attention to a video that appears to show the 78-year-old
>chanting the word "n***a" several times.
>
>In an interview with CBS, Beauton Gilbow -- who said she's
>lived at fraternity house for 15 years -- tearfully told a
>reporter she was surprised by the actions of members filmed
>singing "There will never be a n***** in SAE" on a bus.
>
>"I heard the words. Unbelievable. This is not... this is not
>SAE," she said.
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>Monday evening, the Daily Oklahoman published a video of what
>appears to be Gilbow chanting "n***a" seven times as Trinidad
>James' "All Gold Everything" plays in the background.
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>The lyrics to the song read "Don't believe me, just watch
>n***a, n***a, n***a," but the word is never repeated seven
>times.
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> Vine Link! https://vine.co/v/bg5KM7Fx7zJ
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>Vine user demi stevenson uploaded the video on Feb. 24, 2013.
>The University of Oklahoma student directory lists a Demi
>Leigh Stevenson as a junior in the College of Arts and
>Sciences. Emails to her school address were not returned.
>
>Gilbow was not immediately available for comment.
>
>On Monday, OU President David Boren decried the actions of the
>fraternity brothers seen in the video and announced the
>university had "severed" ties with the chapter. He ordered
>members to vacate the house. A statement from the school read,
>in part:
>
>To those who have misused their free speech in such a
>reprehensible way, I have a message for you. You are
>disgraceful. You have violated all that we stand for. You
>should not have the privilege of calling yourselves
>“Sooners.” Real Sooners are not racist. Real Sooners are
>not bigots. Real Sooners believe in equal opportunity. Real
>Sooners treat all people with respect. Real Sooners love each
>other and take care of each other like family members.
>Two students who were "identified as playing a leadership role
>in the singing of a racist chant" were expelled from the
>university Tuesday. "There is zero tolerance for this kind of
>threatening racist behavior at the University of Oklahoma,"
>Boren said in a statement.
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>"Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY8W4YYUQAw

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This spin is great all things considered

You know in like the late the 1800s. So I'm sure hip hop had some influence in this matter.

as the fuck if.

and Morning Joe? really?

pssh.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/rap-albums-that-caused-slavery

Most were wack, but Three Fifths Mafia got me. lol

damn those rap lyrics

Either stay mum or come out and denounce. You ain't convincing Nan body of anything by trying to come to the defense of White Frats.

All you are doing is earning yourself more side-eye.


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Who the fuck annointed you as the arbiter of whose personal experiences are valid at which times?

a specific type of advocate.

If a speaker fits into a certain pre-conceived narrative, then speaking up on certain issues only re-inforces the narrative and doesn't help them or their cause.


>Who the fuck annointed you as the arbiter of whose personal
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I don't want Jon Stewart to leave...


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/03/jon-stewart-destroys-morning-joe-for-blaming-racist-oklahoma-fraternity-on-the-hippity-hoppity/

John Stewart is basically one of the few truth tellers that comes through the idiot box.
I really think the world is worse off without him doing his show.
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Jon laying down that good ass ether!

I'ma miss that dude.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/levi-pettit-frat-member-sae-racist-chant-video-deeply-sorry-n330226

He could have just tip toed away from it all. Now he's going to have to wait another week for his name to clear the media cycle.

And lol @ the background characters

Who are those black folks in the background?


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Thanks

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