https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl4bOuGNMwo

Its so ridiculous that I can't stop watching it.

un-breakable!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYNbp0u8WjA

the Gregory Brothers who made the original Charles Ramsey type videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYNbp0u8WjA

its actually pretty funny.

>its actually pretty funny.

Pretty hilarious.

Of all the crazy shit they put out there, though, somehow that courtroom climax bothered me for being 'unrealistic'.

Dream prom date:
http://i.imgur.com/3v5jYtV.jpg
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Bad Judge, Selfie and now this. They winnin. Just in my book tho, apparently.

Either way, i'd like to lay with her.

But the body is hot imo
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and i love the cross over
the episode w/ the construction worker?
same construction worker from that 30 rock episode

D'Fwan also called homegirl Amelia Bedelia and i died

and the theme song :( lol

i only know him from 30 rock and he wasn't singing there

"Dfwaun forgot his catch phrase..."

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It's funny in a Bridesmaids minus gross stuff funny.

Is there a guide to "that's cooking" and "that's okay" i could look at?

Martin?
Is Black-ish?
Was hanging with Mr Cooper?
Fresh Prince?
Alfonzo on Silver Spoons?
George Jefferson?
Eddie Rochester?

I'm completely serious.

... He's not going out of his or her way to perpetuate a stereotype of any kind. In other words, think of average white dude on a tv show doing their job.

Nobody on the show fits that description. Except that stepdaughter I keep waitin to ship off to boarding school. (I'm on ep 8)

>

there's redemption! lol

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(I'm white) so that doesn't hurt, but Titus really kills it. Theme song is amazing. The daughter has the posture of a 90 year old woman(I can't be the only one that noticed this),

Pinot Noir. Chica Hamberguesa.

All depressed and moody.

http://static.spylight.com/character_images/avatars/000/005/662/big_square/Simone_thumb.jpg?1425677904

She got that twilight zone face.
http://static.flickr.com/71/224397245_cd036d3749_o.jpg

Her daddy must own Netflix

stereotypes and/or constantly reminded about their race?

I gave up after ep 2.

Im good.

Too many other shows available.

The topic sort of comes up for a couple of them towards the end, actually. They kinda flip it around.

I mean, they don't go very deep or serious with it. But one stereotype explains why they act the way they do. And another someone expresses regret for playing into a stereotype.

And those were the two that bothered me the most, so I'm glad they at least acknowledged it.

Like, part of me really cares a little bit. Obv this is hilarious writing, but it came from a seriously horrifying real occurrence.

What else could they one day make sitcoms out of? The Uruguayan Rugby team crash? The Donner Party?

I wonder if the show will help drive sales.

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It comes out in her book too.

Growing up in philly I guess.

Name ONE normal character on 30 Rock.

The only one I can think of was Grizz.

being smart, sensitive and articulate.


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I think the joke is, every single person on 30 rock was weird as crap.

>being smart, sensitive and articulate.

i always saw that as a "big dumb bodyguard guy" subversion. tracy witnessing dotcom "becoming trigorin on the wesleyan arts main stage" is funny because he's a big bodyguard, not because he's black. do you recall any specific instances of the humor being based on them being black?

I will give you that he favorable reading is that the joke was a subversion of an image, but the guys being black is part of that image. I don't see how you seperate their race out of that image. It's like those old right gaurd commercials with charles barkely and david robinson with the same premise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzdbaoGczC4


>>being smart, sensitive and articulate.
>
>i always saw that as a "big dumb bodyguard guy" subversion.
>tracy witnessing dotcom "becoming trigorin on the wesleyan
>arts main stage" is funny because he's a big bodyguard, not
>because he's black. do you recall any specific instances of
>the humor being based on them being black?


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>I will give you that he favorable reading is that the joke
>was a subversion of an image, but the guys being black is part
>of that image. I don't see how you seperate their race out of
>that image. It's like those old right gaurd commercials with
>charles barkely and david robinson with the same premise.
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzdbaoGczC4

doesn't this commercial play out in the exact same way with a white althete?

i'm not trying to be obstinate here. i haven't had the same experiences with racism that you have so i'm not going to tell you how you should interpret something. it's possible that my inability to empathize is causing me to miss some of the more subtle aspects of racial image subversion

Wrong, the joke was that they were working for Tracy Jordan, who was immensely successful yet his bodyguards were smarter and morw talented than him.

>Wrong, the joke was that they were working for Tracy Jordan,
>who was immensely successful yet his bodyguards were smarter
>and morw talented than him.


Right people think this is the joke and not the difference between their appearance and what they are actually saying and doing.

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well as a big black man who sports doo rags, what people expect to come out of my mouth isn't really that much of a concern. That is reflective of THEIR prejudice, not mine.

However, for Grizz and Dot.Com to be talking about screenplays and acting gigs for Shakespearean roles only for Tracy to shit on them, YES that was a consistently running joke on the show.

By your measure, as soon as they opened their mouths and were intelligent then the joke should have been over. The running gag wasn't that they were Black and Urban, yet smart nearly as it was that they were smart, talented, yet working security for the guy starring in The Chunks franchise.

30 Rock
SNL
Unbreakable
BossyPants

Generally good to slip in some "white women have it the hardest" or "it's kinda OK to be a little racist" lines.

Mexican mariachi singers and Jane whatever her name is being a shallow rich lady.

lol

After burning through the entire season over the weekend, that seems like a pretty good summary.

It's pretty good.

The premise is a bit too silly for me to stay invested for the whole ride. That and the fact I didn't laugh once during the first episode.

Not a lot of screen time, but got guffaws when she did. Especially later in the season.

Her railing against the honky's had me chuckling.
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Read a piece on it friday
I'll get to it
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When somebody else is talkin to them, they have the same exact resting "I wanna slap you for what you're saying but it's not the time" face.

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An incompetent legal team is OJ...not the Zimmerman trial
Noted
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Marcia Clark and Chris Darden were on tv every day for a period of months.

Also they have kitschy, nostalgia value.

*it's not.

Nu-are
Was it?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUk6GmqfqnY

hilarious!!

That shit is a caricature at best.

I didn't like Martin for that shit so Tina Fey is definitely not getting a pass.

Y'all got me all gassed up to watch some shit for THIS kinda humor?

FOH

D

He regrets acting that way.

Kimmie is adorable....I'll give it a shot.

D

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http://www.thebolditalic.com/articles/7033-ubreakable-kimmy-schmidt-is-a-great-show-with-a-big-race-problem

But I'm extra sensitive about racial implications in the dramas, "based on a true story" films and the news. But the cringe factor is a big portion of NBC comedy and Tina Fey is from that writer's room. In fact, it's weird to me that they don't swear despite having no censors.

I think if anything, the show goes super hard on gay stereotypes more often than race.

going to Netflix after production was aready underway.

I'm going to to stick with it
A for effort?

Hope they keep trying for subversion

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nyc transplants, as on 30Rock...

I mean I have secrets that living there can hide
and attended school with visa holders who told me
long asian name meant Thailand...
and worked for natives like Lillian the landlord
who tried to get me into workplace pyramid loans
was subtly called bridge and tunnel by a marketing coworker
who of course moved to CT when school zoning changed

occasionally I would return home to a place that still felt the the 90s
many remarking on how the Jewish are different up there

make it here make it anywhere post tie-in...

sadly fun show

But they are nailing it with Carol Kane and NY eccentricity
"That's a real floor!"
That hole in the ceiling
'Fighting' gentrification

They even nailed that whole racist not a racist yes that was racist with her shooting her black husband
lol
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I watched a couple more. It got better - but honestly, it's not really something that's so funny that I can forgive the rather buffoonish characters of color.

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And everybody in the show is VERY weird.

Dude from Connecticut with the British accent had dudes walk a dolphin to her front door!
And the dolphin blew dust from his blowhole!
I almost had an asthma attack

when he lifted that cat....

i was already rotfl for the first clip with the dude in the audience alone
but the second clip
that killed me

all that race shit that people get upset over? i didnt feel it. this is not a case of casual racism or hipster racism or liberal racism. race is something that we all think about and obsess over and the show is a reflection on our weird hang up about race

this was a super funny, super cutesy show. Of all the real fucked up shit on tv that is actually FOR REALLY REAL racist, sexist, homophonic this shit barely on the radar

these tv activist are weird as shit.

i mean, i get it, hes like an asian danny devito type of character in a way

but he is neutered and kind of totally a coon


i still enjoy the show but I think about it

I think I would be more offended if I was from Indiana than anything.

They poke fun at a lot of different stereotypes and it doesn't seem to single anyone out. Maybe having two Latina maids is unnecessary but they aren't particularly negative portrayals; Donna Maria has been consistently funny.

>all that race shit that people get upset over? i didnt feel
>it. this is not a case of casual racism or hipster racism or
>liberal racism. race is something that we all think about and
>obsess over and the show is a reflection on our weird hang up
>about race
>
>this was a super funny, super cutesy show. Of all the real
>fucked up shit on tv that is actually FOR REALLY REAL racist,
>sexist, homophonic this shit barely on the radar

It's tameness seems like network television would be a better fit.

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Then Netflix picked it up

It's not like Fey and Carlock pitched it directly to Netflix

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did anyone catch that, they just made fun of the OJ trial

lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JorhUm1gfg

Just randomly blurting out "Pinoooot Noir!"

I had my doubt that Ellie Kemper could carry a series but she does so with aplomb.

It's got 30 rock like jokes per minute.

It's doing interesting things with Class jokes.

Titus has grown on me. I just want him to win at this point.

The last thing they need to fix is stop having the asian dude using that thick heavy accent.


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It's that whole dopey, wide-eyed, half-slow immigrant thing they need to get rid of. FOB mom got a thick accent and swag.

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The plastic surgeon Martin Short played was based on a real guy.


https://nyppagesix.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/frederic-kimmy.jpg

They bullied him and he hung himself. Smh

The general consensus of interviews was that he was depressed anyway but the show didn't help.

Unlike Marcia Clark or Warren jeffs, I don't think most people knew there was a real life equivalent, so it's less of a everybody joke and more inside/mean.

But whaddayagonna do? I laughed.

dude made a nice living off of helping people feel insecure about their natural appearance

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in your mind at the same time. Stick with the simplistic black and white and leave the nuanced thinking to people who are more comfortable with it.


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I was thinking if anyone girls who were actually held captive for years would have a problem with the show.


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because someone, somewhere has gone through the experience?

taking responsibility and suffer the moral consequences (i.e, feel bad about it).

What a comedian decides to make fun of is a personal decision and has moral consequences and they should weigh that out before deciding to make fun of something.

I don't believe there is a blanket "it's just comedy so I am absolved of feeling bad about my work" exception.

It was true when we made fun of people at school. It is still true for a comedian as an adult.


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Let's not act like whenever anyone kills themselves in response to being made fun or bullied it's a normal reaction, but when it happens it is a normal response for people to feel bad for their role in it.

Do you think the folks responsible should feel bad for all those stories we read about teens killing themselves for being bullied or made fun of?

Whether it's normal reaction doesn't change how a person should feel for their role in it.

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we shouldn't be silly children that think we're "special". Dude was in an industry that dealt purely on people's insecurities and narcissism, I'm sure there were plenty of times where he capitalized on people's lack of self esteem to make a bunch of money. And you can't handle someone spoofing you??? Get over yourself. This is an example of the comedic concept of punching up. It's unfortunate that he reacted that way but that's on him, not them.

With being ridiculed indefinitely on a TV series
Get some perspective
They were already dealing with what was clearly a fragile ego
That has little to do with being an adult at that point




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Which I guess makes sense but sometimes people aren't normal. The kids who kill themselves from social media taunting? They aren't normal. Yet it happens.

In law we have the Eggshell skull theory. Google it. The basic premise is one liable for all consequences resulting from his or her tortious (usually negligent) activities leading to an injury to another person, even if the victim suffers an unusually high level of damage (e.g. due to a pre-existing vulnerability or medical condition).

Now I don't want to turn this into a legal discussion. I just want to show there is precedent for accepting the idea that sometimes people aren't normal and we can't expect them to react normally to stuff.


Now do I think art shouldn't make jokes that make fun of people? I am not saying that at all.

I am just saying their is a moral component of making art and that moral component means one should feel bad if your mocking them lead to their suicide. It ain't that hard.



>we shouldn't be silly children that think we're "special".
>Dude was in an industry that dealt purely on people's
>insecurities and narcissism, I'm sure there were plenty of
>times where he capitalized on people's lack of self esteem to
>make a bunch of money. And you can't handle someone spoofing
>you??? Get over yourself. This is an example of the comedic
>concept of punching up. It's unfortunate that he reacted that
>way but that's on him, not them.


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I'm talking about making a parity of being kidnapped...

or almost being murdered...

or being cheated on...

or having amnesia...

I don't think any of those instances are above being spoofed.

to this lady who reached out to shake my hand with her left land "you know in some countries it's considered rude to shake hands with your left hand" all jokes and laughing. It didn't occur to me that she didn't have a right hand until she held up her nub.

I felt bad about that. Does it mean I should never have made that comment or should never make it again going forward? no. Doesn't change I felt bad about how it played out in that one instance.



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Karate! Karate! Karate!

but the OKP police won't allow me to laugh at this show due to political correctness

the deaedpan humor in this show is off the charts
like kimmy telling Zan "STEP OFF!!!"

Titus's facial exprpessions

everyone mad at how they portrayed the black dude who made up the theme song
but how many negroes in rural indiana living in a single wide with no indoor plumbing sound like Michael Eric Dyson or Brother Cornell West?
i'm just being honest (c) Future

15 years in the game and this place never change

Not that it was any sillier at the end than in the beginning, but I was numb to it by that point

Maybe a casualty of binge watching


And yea fey kinda toes the line on stereotyping shtt, but can hide behind the 'everyone is over the top' defense

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curious as to where they'll take the show.

and titus taught me something new about how to popcorn

other than titus, the few newer characters were way more compelling/funny than the established ones this season.