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12739479, So wait, why aren't we all living in Detroit?
Posted by Mongo, Mon Mar-02-15 12:59 PM
http://writeahouse.com/

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12739486, b/c i don't do fixer-uppers.
Posted by SoWhat, Mon Mar-02-15 01:01 PM
and if i'm going to deal w/such horrendous winter weather i'd rather be in a city that's up and running and open for biz like Chicago.

but Detroit cute though and for ppl who are willing to do the work i am sure there are many gems just waiting to be rediscovered.

12739562, Just got back from Detroit, I think it's -38F that is fatal
Posted by bentagain, Mon Mar-02-15 01:24 PM
DET is getting close

you couldn't pay me to live there.
12739574, it's +30F and sunny today in the D. and I'm getting paid to live here.
Posted by connectpoliticditto, Mon Mar-02-15 01:26 PM
Not as bad as folks have made it out to be, although I do miss NY sometimes.
12739573, The houses are too small for new people
Posted by DaHeathenOne76, Mon Mar-02-15 01:26 PM
Around 1K square feet

The neighborhood is alright. Lots of ethnic restaurants & stores but not schools

The income threshold does price out most native Detroiters also.

But I dont care anymore, come one come all fuck it.
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huh
12739587, what neigneighborhood is it?
Posted by cgonz00cc, Mon Mar-02-15 01:30 PM
12739606, Right out side of Hamtramck
Posted by DaHeathenOne76, Mon Mar-02-15 01:36 PM
The street signs are green instead of blue
South of Davison (where its a street not a expressway)
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huh
12739616, hmm...not too familiar actually
Posted by cgonz00cc, Mon Mar-02-15 01:42 PM
12739600, the same with artists' housing here
Posted by samsara, Mon Mar-02-15 01:34 PM
draconian requirements which end up keeping out the local people the projects are supposedly intended to support
12739610, ^^^^Not NYer
Posted by ShawndmeSlanted, Mon Mar-02-15 01:38 PM
12739575, Cold enough here in the NE. Can't fuck with the midwest
Posted by 8-bit, Mon Mar-02-15 01:26 PM
All the folks that hate the 90+ summers here should move there. And the anti-mass transit folks, I wish we could ship them out there as well.

Oh, and fuck the Pistons & Lions.
12739605, yeah, i'd never move somewhere with worse winters than Baltimore...
Posted by BigJazz, Mon Mar-02-15 01:36 PM

***
I'm tryna be better off, not better than...
12739835, fuck u pal!
Posted by guru0509, Mon Mar-02-15 03:39 PM

>
>Oh, and fuck the Pistons & Lions.
12740580, Still haven't got over the Bad Boys era Pistons beating the 76ers...
Posted by 8-bit, Tue Mar-03-15 10:56 AM
Used to bully the sixers around back in the day. And I'm an Eagles fan. We don't like anyone, lol.
12739603, they need to work on their mass transit
Posted by lfresh, Mon Mar-02-15 01:35 PM
i don't have a license
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When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
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You cannot hate people for their own good.
12739611, no one wants to take that political hit
Posted by cgonz00cc, Mon Mar-02-15 01:39 PM
Ill be happy if we get this light rail thing going

Its gonna be baby steps
12739625, Tuh
Posted by DaHeathenOne76, Mon Mar-02-15 01:49 PM
You betta get some good friends and lots of cab fare. LBVS

Even if the powers that be did improve hell implement mass transit, it would NOT be coming through that particular hood.

Hell the light rail stops at Grand Boulevard.

I realize Im being Debbie Downer...let me eat my lunch.
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huh
12739628, looking at it on the map...u got that right
Posted by cgonz00cc, Mon Mar-02-15 01:50 PM

>Even if the powers that be did improve hell implement mass
>transit, it would NOT be coming through that particular hood.
12739899, yes ma'am
Posted by lfresh, Mon Mar-02-15 04:01 PM
>You betta get some good friends and lots of cab fare. LBVS
>
>Even if the powers that be did improve hell implement mass
>transit, it would NOT be coming through that particular hood.
>
>Hell the light rail stops at Grand Boulevard.
>
>I realize Im being Debbie Downer...let me eat my lunch.


no worries
its reality

i look at NY and my mom WILL NOT leave i tell you
she's a senior citizen and the freedom of movement here
its really unparalleled


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When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
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You cannot hate people for their own good.
12739607, I tried to put a friend onto this, but applications closed in June
Posted by Vex_id, Mon Mar-02-15 01:37 PM
It's an awesome opportunity for a writer. I think most people aren't interested in this because they aren't serious about writing.

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12739663, Nigga that's Detroit (c) King of slander Jerm
Posted by Kira, Mon Mar-02-15 02:25 PM
They don't fuck around out there, that's why. For the record, I have no problems at all with Detroit but some of you touristy palm trees people might have problems out there.

What's the environment like for working professionals?

How trigger happy are the police?

Did they payback those college students that beat their ass on video?

12739768, holy shit. thank you.
Posted by astralblak, Mon Mar-02-15 03:14 PM
my lady just left me, i may try this, lol

Detrioters what type of area is this.
12739782, Whoa, man. Think this through:
Posted by 8-bit, Mon Mar-02-15 03:19 PM
>my lady just left me

Ok. So you're back on the market. You really want to be in Detroit for that? lol. I hate being single in Philly, I can't imagine it in a town with the depopulation & poverty problems that Detroit apparently has. You think they have that nice slice of fine transplants?
12739790, a transplanted guy on an artist grant nowadays...
Posted by cgonz00cc, Mon Mar-02-15 03:22 PM
Aint playing on the same field as everyone else lol
12739823, ^^^^
Posted by T Reynolds, Mon Mar-02-15 03:34 PM
I just read Broken Monsters by Lauren Beukes

This dude bout to tear shit up

And not for nothing Detroit girls pretty cool on the low
12739841, id never heard of it...thanks for the rec!
Posted by cgonz00cc, Mon Mar-02-15 03:41 PM
12739847, It's by a South African transplant to Detroit
Posted by T Reynolds, Mon Mar-02-15 03:42 PM
so all the characters are more or less in the art scene

12739799, He gonna do numbers
Posted by DaHeathenOne76, Mon Mar-02-15 03:25 PM
He is new to the city and artsy..knee deep in rebellious trust fund hipsters and Shea butter sistas

If he looks like this https://d2nyfqh3g1stw3.cloudfront.net/photos/article_landing_nadir_pic_11282.jpg

CHA CHING

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huh
12739804, im sayin lol
Posted by cgonz00cc, Mon Mar-02-15 03:27 PM
He could walk up in TV Lounge and hold court up in there

Have me looking at him salty as fuck lol
12739809, Then I have to wipe their tears
Posted by DaHeathenOne76, Mon Mar-02-15 03:29 PM
Cuz he wants an open relationship.

Ive changed my mind, dont bring your ass here LOL
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12739814, actually i could work with that lol
Posted by cgonz00cc, Mon Mar-02-15 03:32 PM
12739922, LOL
Posted by astralblak, Mon Mar-02-15 04:09 PM
y'all making me laugh when I wanna cry
12739828, *combs fro and starts looking for jobs in the D*
Posted by 8-bit, Mon Mar-02-15 03:35 PM
>He is new to the city and artsy..knee deep in rebellious
>trust fund hipsters and Shea butter sistas
>
>If he looks like this
>https://d2nyfqh3g1stw3.cloudfront.net/photos/article_landing_nadir_pic_11282.jpg
>
>CHA CHING


Forgot about that segment, lol. That dried-up in Philly in the mid-00s it seems.

I wonder if anyone will ask me why I'm walking around with an electric bass with no amp tho.
12739830, right, muhphucka is inspiration for all of us to break up and spread out.
Posted by Fishgrease, Mon Mar-02-15 03:37 PM
all we need is some old t-shirts, a bundle of nag champa and proclaimations that we like "natural girls" on instagram and we'd all do numbers.
12739888, fucn shit, haha
Posted by astralblak, Mon Mar-02-15 03:58 PM
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12739886, i look like Travie McCoy meets Drake aka john legend
Posted by astralblak, Mon Mar-02-15 03:57 PM
but way more latino

12739900, http://youtu.be/DawrlSwHUiM
Posted by cgonz00cc, Mon Mar-02-15 04:01 PM
http://youtu.be/DawrlSwHUiM
12739905, oh you bout to clean up then
Posted by lfresh, Mon Mar-02-15 04:03 PM
wait is light skin in again for dudes?
i keep forgetting
jessie williams is holding that banner up and hardt
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When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
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You cannot hate people for their own good.
12739918, I'm bout 3.5 shades darker than Jessie
Posted by astralblak, Mon Mar-02-15 04:08 PM
not where near as pretty is that MFer

my lightskintedness has undertones of red cause of being Mexican. when i fully grow the beard i look hella middle eastern Arab tho

i'm still sad
12739930, The sad thing will work for you
Posted by lfresh, Mon Mar-02-15 04:11 PM
just look at puppy dog eyes on HTGAwM


the rest?
da heathen one will have to tell you your chances
i left off with the rest of the country still now understanding what an afrolatino is
forget about a non mexican latino
they might just call you miguel and call it a day
not sure if thats good or bad


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When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
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You cannot hate people for their own good.
12739860, haha. i meant it as I'm a writer fam. getting an MFA
Posted by astralblak, Mon Mar-02-15 03:49 PM
and this wasn't an option a month ago when I still felt like me and my lady were building a future together (we were six months deep in trying to make it work)and LA would be our home base for a while.

this is def something I'd consider now that I'm free to roam around
12739783, :(
Posted by Yaskeelah, Mon Mar-02-15 03:20 PM
>my lady just left me, i may try this, lol
>

aw.
12739786, i dont know the immediate neighborhood at all
Posted by cgonz00cc, Mon Mar-02-15 03:20 PM
But DHO says its right near Hamtramck which is a cool little town almost completely surrounded by detroit

12740174, Polish, Urkranian & Bengali
Posted by Notalent, Mon Mar-02-15 08:22 PM
Hipster paradise
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www.twitter.com/muhfuckinthomas
12739854, LOL. these replies are incredible
Posted by astralblak, Mon Mar-02-15 03:46 PM
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12739891, WHY ARE YOU POSTING WHEN YOU SHOULD BE SUICIDAL AND CRYING
Posted by Mongo, Mon Mar-02-15 03:59 PM
UNDER A BED SOMEWHERE

EATING A PINT OF CHOCOLATE ICE CREAM

BLUBBERING OVER WHY SHE DID YOU WRONG

FUCK THIS FREE HOUSING THING
12739910, ^^dont listen to this man^^
Posted by lfresh, Mon Mar-02-15 04:04 PM
every NYr knows w regards to gentrification
you'd drop all family friends and a pet
to get a rent control situation

he's having a lapse of judgement
#housingfirst
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When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
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You cannot hate people for their own good.
12739912, oh and of particular interest to you:
Posted by cgonz00cc, Mon Mar-02-15 04:05 PM
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexicantown,_Detroit
12740195, Because Detroit is a third world country & the whole Midwest is cheap
Posted by ndibs, Mon Mar-02-15 08:53 PM
12740296, listen Omaha, shall we really talk about the culture of Detroit?
Posted by cgonz00cc, Mon Mar-02-15 11:38 PM
12740629, what do you imagine Detroit has going for it that Omaha doesn't?
Posted by ndibs, Tue Mar-03-15 11:22 AM
except for free houses because nobody wants to live there?

AND A FUCKLOAD LOT MORE SNOW and colder temps.

And why don't you live there?
12740648, besides ethnic diversity, a music scene that resonates around the world,
Posted by cgonz00cc, Tue Mar-03-15 11:35 AM
a world class art museum, the nations largest and most comprehensive museum on American life, a place in history that stretches back 400 years, a history of industrial and technological innovation unmatched anywhere in America, the best collection of existing art deco and neogothic architecture in America, the College for Creative Studies, waterfront geography, and an international border?

Not much i suppose lol
12740677, so bascially almost nothing that affects a persons quality of life
Posted by ndibs, Tue Mar-03-15 12:02 PM
is that why you don't live there?
12740886, wow, are you dead inside
Posted by astralblak, Tue Mar-03-15 02:05 PM
SMDH
12741038, nope. omaha is diverse, has good restaurants
Posted by ndibs, Tue Mar-03-15 03:03 PM
and JOBS so it has become a transplant, international, hipster mecca.

he convinved ababa to move there and she left becuase she couldnt' run a business there because she didn't have electricity half the time. i had a package sent to detroit that didn't get a delivery scan. extremely unusual and it means i was going to have to refund the $100 north face coat i sent if the customer noticed. called the post office 2 days in a row and their computers were down. that's some third world country shit. I ship all over the world without tracking or insurance. detroit i have to put insurance on packages because they don't scan packages like the rest of the western world.

try and eat off art deco architecture though.
12741056, why are you telling blatant fucking lies?
Posted by cgonz00cc, Tue Mar-03-15 03:17 PM
I aint convince anybody to do a fucking thing

Nobody cares about your business practices.

And have fun with that 75/12/12 white/blk/hisp "diversity"
12741070, nah you sure didn't convince her...
Posted by ndibs, Tue Mar-03-15 03:37 PM
she moved back so quick.

you may not have convinced her to move there, but you were trying to convince her that it was a cool place to live.

in reality, there's nothing in detroit that the rest of the midwest doesn't have besides thirdworldiness and crumbling art deco architecture.
12741072, at least you can admit you lied
Posted by cgonz00cc, Tue Mar-03-15 03:39 PM
12741080, yep should have said you TRIED to convince her to live there.
Posted by ndibs, Tue Mar-03-15 03:42 PM
unsuccessfully.

i'll be more careful with my word choice in the future.

so i'm not called a liar, by people trying to skirt facts.
12741084, #76
Posted by cgonz00cc, Tue Mar-03-15 03:44 PM
12740943, where in the name of God do you think i live? lol
Posted by cgonz00cc, Tue Mar-03-15 02:24 PM
12741040, i'm sorry. didn't know, but it explains a lot.
Posted by ndibs, Tue Mar-03-15 03:04 PM
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12741049, so now that your point was proven to be utter shit -> ad hominems
Posted by cgonz00cc, Tue Mar-03-15 03:15 PM
12740212, It's too cold in the D
Posted by Deacon Blues, Mon Mar-02-15 09:23 PM
12740335, Being real, I may eventually move back to Tha D
Posted by PoppaGeorge, Tue Mar-03-15 01:12 AM
I may make the case for it after my kids are grown, but it really depends on where I'm at in life at that time. I've been thinking about making that move back but I ain't doin shit until my son is on his way to college.


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forcing myself to actually respond to you is like bathing in ebola virus. - Binlahab

Like there is stupid, and then there is you, and then there is dead. - VAsBestBBW

R.I.P. Disco D
12740359, cuz all on a nigga mind is murkin and doin time!
Posted by homer_pimpson225, Tue Mar-03-15 02:22 AM
12740417, Cold as shit?
Posted by legsdiamond, Tue Mar-03-15 08:35 AM
Went up there for the Super Bowl and swore I would never return in the winter.

I thought I knew cold...

nah bruh... never again.



12740579, I heard it's gonna be like this for the next 3 or 4 years
Posted by ALmighty44, Tue Mar-03-15 10:54 AM
I work outside and my company is cheap and usually tell us to suck it up because working outside is what we signed up for but they bought cases of hot foods and hot drinks and put out memos MAKING us come inside after 5 minutes outside
12740889, how cold y'all MFers talkin
Posted by astralblak, Tue Mar-03-15 02:05 PM
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12740966, imma be honest...the last couple winters have been rough.
Posted by cgonz00cc, Tue Mar-03-15 02:30 PM
My sister is a school SW and has had ~10 days off the last 2 years because the windchill was below -15 during the time kids wait for the bus.

But in 11-12 i was wearing T shirts this time of year and shorts at the end of March.

Normally speaking over the course of my life, highs in the 20s are normal for DEC-JAN-FEB, and there is always a stretch in January when it gets close to 0. These polar vortices have been fucking us up for the last 2 years.

All that is balanced out with a truly fantastic summer and 4 moderately well defined seasons. Fall is pretty great.
12740994, Nothing to add except
Posted by DaHeathenOne76, Tue Mar-03-15 02:42 PM
I complained last year and I am winter baby.
I was born during one of these deep freezes so they really dont phase me but last year was some ole bullshit.
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12741001, as cold as everywhere else in the northern half of the US has been
Posted by Rjcc, Tue Mar-03-15 02:48 PM
for the last couple of years

we had a run of like 3 mild winters before that, w/ the exception of one snowstorm or so per year.

if you don't like cold, it's not the place for you, but if you've lived anywhere where it gets cold, it's not especially bad.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
12741022, i agree. its generic cold, not Alaska cold.
Posted by cgonz00cc, Tue Mar-03-15 02:56 PM
12741073, detroit is colder and snowier than anchorage
Posted by ndibs, Tue Mar-03-15 03:39 PM
don't lie to these people. there might be somewhere in the far outback of the alaska that's worse. but detroit is way worse than the part of Alaska considered habitable.
12741077, dont u have anyone IRL u can direct your shrewish nagging to?
Posted by cgonz00cc, Tue Mar-03-15 03:41 PM
12741078, when I was in Las Vegas in january it was colder than anchorage
Posted by Rjcc, Tue Mar-03-15 03:41 PM
nobody's lying to anybody, and nobody's fucking moving to anchorage.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
12741023, i've lived where it has gotten 30-50
Posted by astralblak, Tue Mar-03-15 02:57 PM
for most winter

one year dipped to 10 degrees a couple of days

cold don't scare me. SoCal sunshine over rated IMO

i lived in the up North grey for 3 years too
12741052, that's a mild winter in Detroit.
Posted by PoppaGeorge, Tue Mar-03-15 03:16 PM
Detroit is usually pretty bad when you get an arctic blast.

I remember Detroit Public Schools kept schools open unless the temps hit 0. During high school, there were very few days we got off because of that 'cause we were still going to school at 2 degrees.

The last winter I was there had some pretty lengthy stretches at or just above/below zero with the windchill at like -10 or -15 degrees.


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forcing myself to actually respond to you is like bathing in ebola virus. - Binlahab

Like there is stupid, and then there is you, and then there is dead. - VAsBestBBW

R.I.P. Disco D
12741008, RE: post #2 = -15C
Posted by bentagain, Tue Mar-03-15 02:50 PM
12741019, wind chill =/= actual temperature
Posted by cgonz00cc, Tue Mar-03-15 02:56 PM
12741026, Looking at that Blog, I thought the Poet was Alabama Shakes
Posted by Cam, Tue Mar-03-15 02:58 PM
http://blogs.suntimes.com/music/2_Alabama%20Shakes%201%20Thomas.jpg
http://writeahouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/writeahouse_poet_2014.jpg