bantamweights.
http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/3/2/8131351/morning-report-ufc-184-joe-rogan-ronda-rousey-cat-zingano-dana-white-brock-lesnar-mma-news

can somebody please just knock her out?

she's got 2 moves: judo-throw - armbar.

can somebody get one of these other girls into a legitimate training camp?

just sick of UFC cramming her down everyone's throat because they're so pressed for stars.

ben askren is an olympian, wins every fight and bellator CUT him while he was their champion because he's such a one dimensional fighter.

ronda's is exciting, violent, decisive, and aesthetically pleasing

her fights are typically one round and play out exactly the same.

what's entertaining about that?

fabricio verdum

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Fabricio-Werdum-8390


Submission (Armbar)

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Bellator is about to have a card with Kimbo Slice and Ken Shamrock - they are cumulatively 92 years old. The level of talent on their roster is a joke. They basically employ washed up UFC fighters.

John Jones
Conor McGregor
Cain Velasquez
Anthony Pettis
Chris Weidman

If you are a UFC fan - those are household names to you.

And if you aren't a UFC fan but are Black, Irish, Mexican or a good ole boy - they are household names for you too.

If anything, I think the UFC may have too MANY fighters on their roster and it's diluting the brand of their stars.

Look at who all was hurt in 2014 - Pettis, Velasquez, Silva, Belfort a couple other belt-holders and #1/#2 ranked fighters. In a business like UFC if you can't have title fights or big fights then your ticket price goes down and your PPVs go down - which is the bread and butter of their business.

But 2015 though? Jon Jones is gonna fight 3 times, Cain is coming back, Pettis is back, Conor McGregor is fighting Aldo for the belt at International Fight Week, Silva is back, (suspended but whatever they already made their money on 183), Belfort is gonna fight Weidman.

Dana White won't be done counting his money from 184 before his starts counting his money from 185.

i think profits will be down from 2014.

they're gonna need some explosive fights and some new fighters who really resonate with ppl to pull their company back to where they were 5-7 years ago.

imo, them not having the air time they had on spike is destroying their ability to sell new fighters as "important".

and rogan certainly has seen enough fighters to have an opinion, whether you agree or not.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

beat Venus and Serena BADLY? This was a guy who smoked between sets.

that is foul..

A man would darn near kill her.

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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

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>she's got 2 moves: judo-throw - armbar.

You've discredited yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFcuoUpf8Ec

I thought it was the fight from the other night.

you aren't on the ufc payroll.
stop caping this hard.

>can somebody please just knock her out?
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>she's got 2 moves: judo-throw - armbar.
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The fights don't last long enough to see much else. She's finished with knees to the body and strikes to the head also.

That said, she's hardly the first combat fighter to have a trademark finish/combo/strike.


>can somebody get one of these other girls into a legitimate
>training camp?


Most of the women she fights look good to great in their other fights. When they fight Ronda it's a different story.

i trust dudes opinion on such matters.
i haven't watched UFC is over a year tho i need to catch up.
never heard of this lady until she won the other day

>never heard of this lady until she won the other day

some people think so

It would just be like a night after the club for him.

There's no competition in her division and she would get destroyed by any man in the UFC.



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she's training and sparring with men everyday in camp. large men. non-bantamweight men. so if you think its that far fetched that she's not prepared, or couldn't beat them....i think you're wrong.
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it's true what they say...people are strange, when you're strangers.

not compassionate....only polite.

I am not like you at all and i cannot pretend.

She grapples with men, she doesn't fight them

except that it's not!!!

No matter the weight, the bone and muscle density of a man is far greater than a woman, which mean his strength is too. It's never going to happen.

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These women don't train with other women unless they are on an all-female TUF series. They are in training camp with other men. They are fighting men on a daily basis.

If anyone who thinks RR could't take out MOST of the men in all the weight classes below bantamweight and at least half of the male bantamweight class are just really showing that they know very little about the sport of MMA.

But really, it's all a moot point now. RR is probably going to retire in the next year or two. I mean she's got 2 movies coming out next year and she has a good agency behind her that knows how to market her as the "pretty/tough" girl. I mean, I was AT the fight. The crowd was just as hollywood as a Mayweather fight.

you get a fighter who needs that fat check to feed his family and she would be all types of fucked up.

Camps are mostly comprised of active fighters who are training to feed their family.

And what you DONT want is someone kicking your ass too much in training. That's why Weidman wasn't on the 184 card and is now on the 187 card - training camp injury.

It's why Cain had to pull out of 180 - training camp injury.

So miss me with the "she doesn't train" hard excuse just because she trains RIGHT.

What I'm saying is these men she trains with aren't trying to kill her for a paycheck.

Put her in the ring with a fighter who needs to win and watch her ass get dropped with the quickness.

Roudy is on record saying Fallon Fox has an unfair advantage"

It ain't the same, sorry.. I know you want it to be one way but it's not.

The rest of us are ignoramuses.
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And you think you know, which is cool with me. I respect your position.


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but some things I know for a fucking fact bruh... lol.

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>If anyone who thinks RR could't take out MOST of the men in
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Carp like this is just a poor attempt at trying justify an answer and prevent anyone form challenging. Oh, "... they know very little about the sport of MMA" if they don't agree with me. GOHWTN.

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You clearly know very little about the sport of MMA so I'm not even gonna argue with you. It'd be a waste of my time.

Just because I'm not falling for the kool-aid, don't give you the right to call into question other people's knowledge or understanding.

But go on a cook, because you clearly can see what the UFC is trying to do or the forrest for the trees.


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>If anyone who thinks RR could't take out MOST of the men in
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it's true what they say...people are strange, when you're strangers.

not compassionate....only polite.

I am not like you at all and i cannot pretend.

She has no competition in her UFC division. There is another female in a different league that want to fight here but they can't work the deal out.

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stars use steroids (and other drugs), and boxing is about to be on network tv again
ronda rousey is christy martin 2.0, nice novelty but never going really be a break out star generating 10s of millions at 1 event

like when i saw dana white say connor mcgregor was the greatest fighter in ufc history or whatever a few months ago... i just smh.

he tried the same routine with frankie edgar.

the ufc leaving spike was the worst thing to happen to their company.

i'm not convinced that the success the ufc experienced in the late 00's wasn't entirely hinged on spike tv making them the focal point of their network.

They get 4 fights a year on FOX
Consistent programming on Fox Sports 1
Plus they have partnerships with FOX global affiliates

they've been hemorrhaging ppv buys/tv ratings since 2011.

>the ufc leaving spike was the worst thing to happen to their
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i read that they don't have ppv's like that anymore either because nobody was buying them
i never attended a UFC fight party in my life so i can't really speak to how well they were doing but that's crazy if true

and from 2005-2011 the whole network revolved around the ufc.

so it was basically like the ufc having their own cable network.

2009/2010 were record years in terms of buy rates/ratings/live gates for the ufc.

2011/2012 - the switch to fox sports one/fx.

both networks in far less households.

not to mention barely even carried in other countries.

profits down 40% from 2013 in 2014 and profits in 2013 were down from 2012.

they're trending DOWN bigtime and i'm not convinced that it doesn't have everything to do with them not being carried by spike anymore.

and spike needed them too.

when's the last time you ever watched spike now that the ufc isn't on it?

the fuck i wanna watch an ep. of cops from 1990 for?

doesnt matter if ratings are hurting or not



the hype train will roll

into that stance. He also argued that it wasn't fair for Fallon Fox to fight men since she still had the bone structure of a man despite all the cosmetic surgeries and hormone changes she had to change from being a man. If he felt that way, I don't logically see why he'd think Rousey would beat a trained male fighter.

and steroids

Ronda Rousey Vs Gegard Mousasi (Sparring): http://youtu.be/o9xjs2fWJEs

but thats friggin moussasi lolol

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according to his wikipedia page, Mousassi is a black belt in judo and fights as a middleweight, so that's not the same premise Joe Rogan presented, but I do disagree with Rogan's original point. I can't see Rousey taking a punch from a trained male fighter of the same weight class.

he has 50 pounds on her. Rogan said Bantamweight. But I still dont think she could beat the worst Bantamweight in the UFC.

but like someone else mentioned while rousey is good. anyone with any type of good boxing/striking abilities is going to/can beat her. her competition isn't up to the challenge. can't fault her for that

last thing the ufc needs is for folks to see a man beating the shit out of a woman. thats a terrible look.

I heard he likes hitting women

The average geek off the street will get arm barred in 15 seconds.
But even the bottom barrel UFC fighters would mop the floor with her

there is not ONE under contract UFC/strikeforce level male fighter in her weight class that wouldn't destroy her. She won't be able to take them down and they'll laugh at her punches, and she won't survive more than a couple of theirs. This is like people that don't understand that a WNBA team wouldn't beat a high level boy's high school basketball team.

There isn't a sport in the world that doesn't follow this pecking order:
Trained Male>>>Trained Female>>>Untrained Male>>>Untrained Female

I mean that shit even applies to pool, bowling, and darts

but not no goddamn trained MMA fighter, even amateurs

being likely to gas out, which is true, except when it's not, which is most of the time. He doesn't have much of a grasp on human physiology. He also thinks BJJ is a valuable skill set for real life fighting, which is just hilarious.

me? shed crush me
most people,

people that train day to day? shed have more issues


her olympic level judo really is what makes it even possible

i don't know if she can or cannot, and neither do you. so for y'all to come in here and say she CANNOT is simply your bias because she's a woman and they are men.

I mean, before you get into shit like mechanical advantages of the male frame, fist size etc, let's just consider her a fighter that is at an elite / world class level in her submissions and her grappling.

Even if you assume her striking is deficient measured against a replacement level male fighter, she certainly wouldn't be the first person who dominated with an exemplary single skill.

And that's the thing about Rhonda - her world class judo compliments her submissions.

what's more shocking than anything Rogan said are the cubicle jockeys on this board that say she can't beat THEM.

on the poker message boards we had regular posters like steve albini, the best highland games athlete in the country(the guys that throw trees) who's wife is one of the world's strongest women, she posted there also, a powerlifter that could squat 1000 pounds, and quite a few MMA fighters. it's a bigger board than here, but to think everyone here is binlahab is silly. In sports we have a guy that owns a boxing gym.

These are some of the best of the best. They are not your average weekend warriors who train for fun after work.
You'll find NCAA wrestling champions, Olympic athletes, people who climbed all the up MMA ranks to get to the UFC.

So yes, she is elite with her skills. But so is everyone else. That is physical ability becomes the difference maker

There's a reason why sports are separated by sex. There are clear differences in the physical capabilities between men and women.
And the skill gap must be large to overcome these physical differences

this isn't like running a sprint where it's purely athletic when it comes to man vs. woman. two equally trained sprinters, man vs woman race? the man is gonna win.

the stronger, faster person in fight doesn't always win.

my point is that for people definitively saying Rogan is out of his mind are full of shit. they don't know if she can and neither do you or i. and we won't ever know because it won't happen.

i mean, i've seen women whip the shit outta dudes bigger than them on worldstar. shit happens yo.

if i'm gonna take ANYONE'S opinion on the matter though, i'd take Rogan who knows and understands that sport just about as well as anyone on the planet.

dude that's like saying Brent Musburger knows more about football than anyone. Yeah, he does BJJ, and he's a commentator, he's not qualified to train anyone at a competitive level. He's a talking head.

You believe Joe is being genuine and doesnt have anything to gain by saying sensational shit?

I guess Don King was genuine as well.

that's pretty fucking impressive. especially considering judo is all about leverage and weight transfer, and being able to defend yourself against bigger, stronger opponents.
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it's true what they say...people are strange, when you're strangers.

not compassionate....only polite.

I am not like you at all and i cannot pretend.

Prolly more hype than honesty in his statement but she does seem like a beeeeeeeeeeast

anything away from her greatness.



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