Beyonce Fans Attack Kid Rock Online After Derogatory Comments

'Beyhive' descends upon Rock's Instagram after 'First Kiss' singer says superstar "doesn't really fucking do much for me" in Rolling Stone profile

Kid Rock has incurred the wrath of Beyoncé fans following comments he made about the pop star during his Rolling Stone interview.

In the latest issue of Rolling Stone, the singer detailed why he's "flabbergasted" by the intense Beyoncé fandom. "Beyoncé, to me, doesn't have a fucking 'Purple Rain,' but she's the biggest thing on Earth," he said. "How can you be that big without at least one 'Sweet Home Alabama' or 'Old Time Rock & Roll'?"

His criticism quickly turned to not understanding the physical attraction to the singer. "People are like, 'Beyoncé's hot. Got a nice fucking ass.' I'm like 'Cool, I like skinny white chicks with big tits.' Doesn't really fucking do much for me."

Fans of the "Drunk in Love" singer, known as the 'Beyhive,' have taken to social media to vent their frustrations with Rock and anger towards his criticisms. All of his recent Instagram pictures have been flooded with thousands of comments from super-fans with icons and usernames referencing Beyoncé.

While some of the comments are just a marker of presence — users simply posting the bee emoji or "#Beyhive" — others have turned personal and violent. "I HOPE KID ROCK MOM GETS GANG RAPED AND CATCHES AIDS AND DIES," reads one such note on a picture of Rock at the Today show.

"You ain't shit even to this day," says another. "Who are you? And why are you 70 still being called a kid?"

Rock recently released his 10th studio album, First Kiss. As noted in the profile, Rock received a controversial NAACP award in 2011. The Detroit chapter honored him with the Great Expectations award while many members protested the singer for his heavy use of Confederate flag imagery.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/beyonce-fans-attack-kid-rock-online-after-derogatory-comments-20150227

cause his talent bout questionable.

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"Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."

Picture?

And that one other bullshit song.

bye

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why am i not surprised you would miss the easy pitch of how sexist the comment was

which has almost nothing to do with big songs

Massive impact is massive impact

And even if white people do loyally buy albums, they are still choosing HIS album

>Massive impact is massive impact

Ja Rule made a massive impact once, he's a walking punchline now

>And even if white people do loyally buy albums, they are still
>choosing HIS album

fan loyalty is no demonstration of musical greatness or timeless material. hell, his career has benefitted from the same argument he's using to shit on Beyonce

Never mind that a lot of other people released albums in 1998 and 1999 that didnt go diamond. Destinys Child for example.

And he wasnt even shitting on her.

He is shitting on people who cant maintain their perspective on her. Like people who he think he was shitting on her. Or people who equate his record-buying fanbase to her "wish death upon heretics" fanbase.

Finally lol @ ja rule. If Ja Rule had a 6 album plat streak going that might be a good comparison.

he's comparably on the decline now, talking down on Beyonce the week his new album is out is for attention

Where i have to guess where the goalposts are

I was mistaken, his plat streak was broken in 2012. my point stamds regardless

>which has almost nothing to do with big songs

:shrugs:

Lol

His musical skill is objectively displayed during performances. Saying you dont like him is true, saying he has no talent is patently false.

Saying beyonce has no classics cannot be objectively disproven

First we need to define the criteria for what a classic actually is. Because if you ask me its subjective.

now real world.......... u already

Lol

And neither did he

Second of all, of course its subjective. Thats my point. His talent and popularity are not subjective. Both are very sizable.

>Second of all, of course its subjective. Thats my point. His
>talent and popularity are not subjective. Both are very
>sizable.

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a person can have an opinion, especially if a question is asked of them.



Beyonce Fans Attack Kid Rock Online After Derogatory
>Comments
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>'Beyhive' descends upon Rock's Instagram after 'First Kiss'
>singer says superstar "doesn't really fucking do much for me"
>in Rolling Stone profile
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>Kid Rock has incurred the wrath of Beyoncé fans following
>comments he made about the pop star during his Rolling Stone
>interview.
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>In the latest issue of Rolling Stone, the singer detailed why
>he's "flabbergasted" by the intense Beyoncé fandom.
>"Beyoncé, to me, doesn't have a fucking 'Purple Rain,' but
>she's the biggest thing on Earth," he said. "How can you be
>that big without at least one 'Sweet Home Alabama' or 'Old
>Time Rock & Roll'?"
>
>His criticism quickly turned to not understanding the physical
>attraction to the singer. "People are like, 'Beyoncé's hot.
>Got a nice fucking ass.' I'm like 'Cool, I like skinny white
>chicks with big tits.' Doesn't really fucking do much for
>me."
>
>Fans of the "Drunk in Love" singer, known as the 'Beyhive,'
>have taken to social media to vent their frustrations with
>Rock and anger towards his criticisms. All of his recent
>Instagram pictures have been flooded with thousands of
>comments from super-fans with icons and usernames referencing
>Beyoncé.
>
>While some of the comments are just a marker of presence —
>users simply posting the bee emoji or "#Beyhive" — others
>have turned personal and violent. "I HOPE KID ROCK MOM GETS
>GANG RAPED AND CATCHES AIDS AND DIES," reads one such note on
>a picture of Rock at the Today show.
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>"You ain't shit even to this day," says another. "Who are you?
>And why are you 70 still being called a kid?"
>
>Rock recently released his 10th studio album, First Kiss. As
>noted in the profile, Rock received a controversial NAACP
>award in 2011. The Detroit chapter honored him with the Great
>Expectations award while many members protested the singer for
>his heavy use of Confederate flag imagery.
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>http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/beyonce-fans-attack-kid-rock-online-after-derogatory-comments-20150227
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Thats life.

I don't side with the masses just because they are bigger. Some may, I dont.

Never have been so I can't say that he's wrong. Probably dumb for expressing it THAT passionately but he is entitled to hate on shit too. We do it ALL the time here!





















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He's right... was a little crass about it..

But Beyonce doesnt have a classic album or have a truly timeless song..

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but those that did were mainly saying Single ladies. I admit, I never realized it sold that damn much and was #1 for that long, BUT......that still don't mean classic to me. And people on her side ALLLL say the same shit..."it's unfair to compare it to a song from the 70's, you gotta judge it in 20-30 years" and the fact that the numbers "back up their claim" makes it harder to debate.

But nah, I really don't think she has a standout. I even said "Uptown funk" and "Happy" are much bigger than anything she's ever made.

toss.

I caught a piece of the twitter convo...

I definitely think the argument can be made for Single Ladies. In fact I'll concede she has 1...

also

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_singles_in_the_United_States

When it comes to single sales she still is in direct competition with Katy, Rihanna, Gaga.. so its not like Single Ladies has some runaway single sales either..

Not like the fucking Black Eyed Peas.. jeez..

folk talkin about her not having classic/timeless songs
which i would mostly agree with, career-wise




but 85% of that list of what is moving units is not classic/timeless AT ALL

beyonce would actually need to try being LESS soulful and more mindlessly catchy, if she wanted that # 1 sales slot


i would guess her still making the top 10 selling artists overall, comes from totaling up more individual songs than any of the other artists listed


that list is also another reminder how many fitewolks are in america
300M total and like 70% white = 210 million ppl. thats a lotta mofoes, whether they R buying albums, making dane cook a star, or anything else

posted up in the northeast u forget that sometimes

Yea there are some songs that definitely wouldn't be considered timeless higher up on that list than Single ladies...

I dont think it's a soul or repetition thing. I mean Crazy In Love and Single Ladies arent exactly "soulful' and are pretty repetitive as opposed to like a Someone Like You or Somebody that I used to know..

What is also crazy about this list is the damn legacy of Motown (LMFAO) came in real quick and SMASHED the game..

play it today at a wedding and watch what happens.

that get a reaction no matter where, when or how they get played

>He's right... was a little crass about it..
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>But Beyonce doesnt have a classic album or have a truly
>timeless song..


B Day alone has 5, arguably 6 songs that continue to define her career and that album came out 8+ years ago

but yeah she has tons of non singles from her first album to today that her fans live and die for

if your bar for timeless is Thriller, Purple Rain or Stevie Wonder you're being unreasonable

because anyone who isn't a D'Angelo fan could argue Voodoo isn't timeless so it's all subjective

I think the argument is..

Simply.. Beyonce is one of the biggest artists in the world. Across the board.. age.. gender country etc..

But if you compare her to the canon of people who got THAT big. There isn't a defining album

I don't think anything outside of Single Ladies can really be placed in the pantheon..

but I know how big he was

she means everything to her audience: blackish women age 18-38 and a great number of gay dudes

she shut down everything dropping an album out of thin air with songs her fans will be singing forever, I dont get the determination to discredit her

(not you but) I think some people really hate the idea of a powerful black woman

Beyonce is an ICON..

no one should argue that.. Not even Mike Huckabee can.

But the artist in me wants her to commit herself to a great piece of work. Like really dig deep and see what comes out..

I don't think she could before because her upbringing was so focused on a success goal not an artistic one..

but now..

she's an entertainer who makes songs about love and performs her ass off

I mean great for her.. not some Bill & Ted's excellent adventure save the world music shit..

... I feel if he dug deep and really made the album he wanted to artistically, it would be his magnum opus. Even at his current age. But one could argue that he has classic albums, Beyonce not so much.

People can rattle off a dozen Elvis classic songs, though.

if you like skinny white chicks with big tits
then you already know why you dont like her look
i'm sure they asked other questions
but he's so irrelevant the only responses that seem to have gotten traction are his comments about her

never did fk with kid rock, tho
white jason in high school LOVED him some kid rock (the rapper)

i will say that picture is my shit, word to sheryl crow

i mean are folk really checking for him like that in 2015?

his full blown rock and roll right wing swing odd too

and that i like skinny blonds with big tits was corny

If this new album of his doeant go platinum it will be the first time thats happened since 1998

People arent irrelevant just bc they arent relevant to us

with his new demo

You're talking about a cat that TOURED WITH ICE CUBE for his first album back in '90, at a time when Cube was still "The nigga you love to hate". Duke had a break dancin crew, DJ'ed, did Graf (IIRC), AND could rhyme. Kid Rock is more hip hop than 99.9999999996% of the cats rappin on the radio right now.

He's still sellin albums at a time when artists still buy their own records on the sly just to inflate their own sales.

He has die hard fanbases for both types of music he's done and somehow you think he's irrelevant???

That just shows more about how much you don't know about Kid Rock than anything.

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didnt know there was so much investment in him as an artist
i knoow alllll about him, trust that poppageorge...since 1990
and i dont fk with him which is MY RIGHT & i see it offended you
bboy crew, cube cosign, up on all elements of hip hop, white boy gelled up flat top....I DONT GIVE A FUCK...i'm not feeling him & never have

i used the word irrelevant because he had this LONG INTERVIEW
and his views on this woman that he doesn't even fk with as an artist or a sex object are what ppl clung to
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>i used the word irrelevant because he had this LONG INTERVIEW
>and his views on this woman that he doesn't even fk with as an
>artist or a sex object are what ppl clung to
>that.is.funny.to.me.

i have no problem with anyone seeing him as relevant
shit, i dont even have a problem with what he said about her



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Relevant to you and relevant in the larger sense of the word are two diffetent things.

The former is entirely subjective, but the latter has datapoints to objectively show that he is in fact relevant to the world at large.

We haven't forgotten about your hip-hop past Kid. Yes, he's talented but his genre switch disqualifies his opinion. KR has hits for days but why he's shitting on Bey again? Go at a male like Eminem or Jay but leave his wife alone because that's asexual shit.

Pick on someone in your own gender. Women are easy targets to some people but this is overboard and he's pandering to his target audience.

>We haven't forgotten about your hip-hop past Kid. Yes, he's
>talented but his genre switch disqualifies his opinion. KR has
>hits for days but why he's shitting on Bey again? Go at a male
>like Eminem or Jay but leave his wife alone because that's
>asexual shit.

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she didn't change genres but she went gutter.

15 years ago no one would have ever thought Beyonce would curse or say nigga.

this the same dude who used to hang in the projects
and make underground rap records
and talk abt how much he love blk ppl...blk women in particular

now his music has the same content as toby keith's

odd

He is neither eminem or tobey keith, he is gets in where he fits in.

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and thats ok

wolf....They look delusional and certified wack jobs when they attack people for giving constructive criticism or point out that their girl can be on some bully, diva shit (that Grammy fiasco)....

But if it wasn't for their past doing-too-much behavior, I would ride with them on this Kid Rock shit....

Forget what he said about B not having a Purple Rain (that's more than true....)....Dude didn't have to come out of his face on some white chicks >>>>>>> black chicks shit...Especially when you got a black baby mama and u came out on some hip-hop shit...

He's been hanging out with Ted Nugent way too long...He needs to chill on that tip considering he came in on the backs of black folk....

motherfucker used to have a flat top and freestyle outside the chin tiki, and now he's a nra redneck team nugent tea party republican?

i know it's a money move, but come on

i useta think he was trolling like glen beck but now iono

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in that article.

Folks are more upset about that than him shooting a pig point blank in the face with a gun and videotaping it for lulz. Madder than him calling Obama "Obummer". Madder than having all these crazy, right wing sensibilities.

*SMH*

Classic Singles:
Get Me Bodied
Crazy in Love
Single Ladies
Flawless


I would say Beyonce is her classic album too. Kid Rock needs to shut up and go on somewhere else.

>Classic Singles:
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I bet most of the music listening public don't know either. It's a stretch to say that most know what Crazy in Love is.
They may be "urban" classics (I was going to say R&B, but I don't think it it fits the category. Sounds more like pop)

I think a lot of people severely over-estimate how widespread Yonce's reach is.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/kid-rock-puts-his-obama-hating-right-wing-jackassery-on-full-display-ahead-of-new-album/

In a wide-ranging interview with Rolling Stone, timed before the release of his new album, singer-musician Kid Rock talked about buying guns before “Obummer” banned them, pop diva Beyoncé, and called 2012 Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney “the most decent motherf*cker I’ve ever met in my life.”

Rock, whose real name is Bob Ritchie, invited Rolling Stone writer Patrick Doyle out to his 500-acre Alabama estate — situated right near a property owned by Hank Williams Jr. — where he discussed his career and his ‘Red State’ values.

Prior to traversing the property where Rock had trapped three wild pigs he intended to shoot (“We’re about to do some murderous shit”), he showed off his gun collection, including a .22 rifle, two custom .45 pistols with ivory handles displayed in a case reading “American Badass Set,” and a semiautomatic with a silencer. According to Rock, the semiautomatic is similar to the ones the Secret Service carries and he purchased it using a loophole after President Obama came into office.
You have to get these pre-1985 with a silencer. I bought it when Obummer came into office, because I’m thinking, ‘What if he f*ckin’ bans guns?’ ,” he explained.

Showing the writer the three wild pigs he had trapped in a pen — explaining that they are not native to the area and over-reproduce — Rock and his girlfriend Audrey proceeded to shoot the penned animals, with Rock exclaiming, “His ass is done,” after shooting one.

Turning to the music scene, Rock related how his father, – a owned a Lincoln-Mercury dealership in his native Michigan — didn’t approve of his son’s career choice, asking him, “‘Why would you want to be a n****r?”

Rock admitted that has last album, Rebel Soul, was a flop, and seemed bewildered by the popularity of Beyoncé.

“Beyoncé, to me, doesn’t have a f*cking ‘Purple Rain,’ but she’s the biggest thing on Earth. How can you be that big without at least one ‘Sweet Home Alabama’ or ‘Old Time Rock & Roll’?” he said. “People are like, ‘Beyoncé’s hot. Got a nice f*cking ass.’ I’m like, ‘Cool, I like skinny white chicks with big tits.’ Doesn’t really f*cking do much for me.”

The rocker, who is now 43 with a son in college, admits that he has settled down from his hard partying days when he admits, “I’d be driving the field trip Monday after I banged, like, four hookers. Well, not hookers, but, you know, four nice girls on Saturday night in Cincinnati.”

Now he hobnobs with conservative politicians; describing Mitt Romney as “the most decent motherf*cker I’ve ever met in my life,” and texting with former Alaska governor Sarah Palin.

Rock even admitted he has a membership at golfer Jack Nicklaus’ private Bear’s Club, near Palm Beach, Florida, saying, “If you told me five years ago I’d have to take my hat off and tuck my shirt in, I’d have slapped the taste out of your mouth. Now I’m like, ‘Look at me, hair slicked back, shirt tucked in.’ I’m like, ‘What a fag!’”

Rock intends to go out on the road promoting his new album, First Kiss, saying he plans to keep ticket prices down — blaming Ticketmaster and calling them “F*ckin’ whores” — and saying he is fully aware who his audience is these days.

“45-50-year-old girls wearing extra-large T-shirts — they’re my bread and butter,” He said. ” They know how to f*cking party — ‘I don’t give a f*ck, I’m making a T-shirt and putting sequins on it. I’m saving my money for beer and having a good time.’”

i didn't really like romney either until i watched the documentary mitt (it's probably still on netflix). decent is exactly the word that i would describe romney as. there are a lot more low down and loathsome politicians. agree with his politics or not, he seems genuinely nice even if you're not from michigan or a celebrity.

>i didn't really like romney either until i watched the
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Focused posting^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^....Yep....

and deservedly so, for the most part


foh at a "black phase"

he voiced his opinion in a coarse (nobody cares what type of women you like) manner, but yeah I couldn't tell you many Bey hits and it's just his opinion. At least he didn't go full John Mayer with it. Let the man treat his STD's and keep trying to save the war zone formerly known as Detroit.

And he's getting the response from her fans that he deserves.

There's a "two trains leave" analogue in there somewhere

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KR is on that Palin...

Fuck the past, he knows who his target audience is now and he is giving them what they want.

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but that's the Beyhive for you.

mind-numbingly stupid and way too turnt up.

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whoever was gonna buy his album or go to his shows are still do both. its not like hes a new artist on the come up.




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Freedom of speech. Aint that what they love to yell about?

so.......

i thought we just discussed freedom of speech, his right to his opinions.

are y'all being obtuse on purpose?

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It's dumb when that people that criticize feel that they should be exempt from criticism themselves. Not to say that he feels that way, but to the folks caping for him.

his free speech.

let that man not think Bey has a "Purple Rain" (she don't) and let him smash his porno chicks.

this ain't even newsworthy, and it's definitely not outrage-worthy.

NO ONE is allowed to express a negative opinion about Yonce.

and he's allowed his opinions in regards to her music, but the stuff regarding her shape and figure was pretty sexist.

>and he's allowed his opinions in regards to her music, but
>the stuff regarding her shape and figure was pretty sexist.

Is it also sexist when a woman says she likes tall men?

>>and he's allowed his opinions in regards to her music, but
>>the stuff regarding her shape and figure was pretty sexist.
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What does her figure have to do with the merit of her musical ability?

>>>and he's allowed his opinions in regards to her music, but
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And thus demonstrates the danger of taking short quotes out of context.

Beyonce's album moved units and was in heavy rotation for the last year and a half, it wasn't a *great* album imo

And I didn't think it was worthy of being the Grammy's "album of the year"


And to Kid Rock's point, for someone who's as big a star as Beyoncé is, there's no great album in her discography

he's probably laughing at all this shit and loving the publicity.

he also wasn't all that wrong...it's just his opinion.

90 % of folks probably agree with him too lol

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very true

.... 'CISM

Anyone co-signing Kid Rock has forever lost the ground to demean Sir Yeezus from Chicago.

At least Yeezus did it to make a point. Kid Rock is just pandering to his demo.

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When Yeezus picks on insert blonde white female he's an asshole but KR picks on a Superstar and media lets him get away with it.

but sure, it's exactly like saying someone's so dirty you need 30 showers to move on from them.

>but sure, it's exactly like saying someone's so dirty you
>need 30 showers to move on from them.

>>but sure, it's exactly like saying someone's so dirty you
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But you knew that.

oomph. And it bothers them, which is why they react this way. I don't remember any of this kind of talk during Mariah's heyday.

black woman, they will.

i really think a lot of men on this site dislike black women.

>black woman, they will.
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Especially on here so im not surprised with the Kid Rock caping.

There's a mismatch between her larger than life status and the level of her output.

There was no such mismatch with Whitney, or Mariah. And in the case of Janet and TLC, it was the other way around - the quality of the songs far surpassed their talent.

Beyonce has maybe 3 songs that I'd ever want to play on a guitar or piano, whereas those other artists each has at least 6 otlr 7 (maybe not TLC.)

She doesn't have the hits to justify her stature. Rihanna, Katy Perry and Gaga all have way more umber 1's, but Beyonce's status is as close as it gets to Michael/Madonna levels.

2009 over Beyonces. No question.

Come on, this shit isn't brand new, and neither is the criticism of it.

Besides, it's not like Kid Rock went out of his way to mention some female artists he thought were more deserving of the accolades.

Or maybe he did, I don't give enough of a fuck about Kid Rock to read about his opinions.

"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

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So Kid Rock is wrong saying she isn't living up to "sweet home alabama" and "old time rock N roll" standards.

I won't name the Destiny's Child hits because nit-pickers will say those hits shouldn't qualify now (yeah......eh...)


But

Upgrade
Crazy in love
Irreplaceable
check on it
Deja Vu

were hits


along with songs I wish weren't hits like:

single ladies
drunk in love
get me bodied


plus Beyonce got album cuts that I'm sure her band can please an audience with (in between the hits)

video phone
freakum dress
me myself and I
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ring the alarm (heh heh....just seeing if you're awake...nah, it growed on me)

true play-this-for-the-aliens level "masterworks".

That's what Kid Rock is talking about and he's right.

Funny thing is alot of the big DC hits are superior to most of her solo hits.

that's quite a lot

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classics (those were Kid Rock's mentioned "standards for deserving fame")


So Beyonce hits make her deserve fame.


Maybe if Kid Rock said: "Beyonce needs music and good as the Beatles to be considered "classic".....but "sweet home alabama" and "old time rock N roll"? B matches those with her hits

i hate that the standard measure of the timelessness of a song is the record sales or chart position, so i won't resort to those, but those songs are ubiquitous and obviously very well loved. they are both overplayed *to me,* and "old time rock & roll" grates on *my* ears, but they are very much classics that have stood the test of time. we will see if beyonce has songs like that, that will be perennial favorites in popular culture for decades. based on the longevity of her music so far, there don't seem to be many candidates in her catalog that will be that universal and long lasting. that was what i got out of that statement.

just appeal to a narrow demographic. The songs don't have the "sophistication" to "spread out" to a more broad audience.

"Strong" to me is when a song can go "far" beyond a set limit.


ex: the song "A hard day's night" is a "weak" Beatles classic to me because that song just seems to me to be able to just reach die hard Beatles fans.


"Strawberry Fields forever" is a "strong" Beatles classic to me because it has the ability to reach a broader audience due to the "more sophisticated" artistic qualities of that song.

>just appeal to a narrow demographic. The songs don't have the
>"sophistication" to "spread out" to a more broad audience.

i think this is a pretty romantic view. the two songs in question get played whether we want to hear them or not. they are played at the grocery store and on tv commercials. the demographic spreads because enough people genuinely think they are good pieces of music/catchy songs and keep playing them and to more and more people. people outside of the usual demographic of those bands hear the songs and find the appeal, even if it's not on the first listen. to me those songs are classics because they never really went away and still get played now when the music of the day is a lot more like beyonce's music. will the same be said of beyonce's music in the future when the dominant style of music may sound very different from now? we start to answer that question by listing how many of beyonce's songs never went out of style and have continued to be played by a wide audience, not just personal favorites or songs we as music fans find of particularly high artistic merit.


>ex: the song "A hard day's night" is a "weak" Beatles classic
>to me because that song just seems to me to be able to just
>reach die hard Beatles fans.
>
>
>"Strawberry Fields forever" is a "strong" Beatles classic to
>me because it has the ability to reach a broader audience due
>to the "more sophisticated" artistic qualities of that song.

i would counter that by saying i disagree with your assessment that it reaches only a smaller faction of fans of the beatles specifically and that "hard day's night" does more in some ways than "strawberry fields forever" because it actually is more accessible and conventional and attached to the still very popular, beloved movie. it doesn't matter to me that SFF is the finer song or that the beatles have literally dozens of amazing pieces of music that can still be enjoyed and dissected 50 years later. i can look at it objectively and say both songs are classics and in some ways "hard day's night" has the edge even though it wouldn't be my choice except as the catchier song. i think there is a tendency among beatles fans to downplay how popular and immediate those early hits were and continue to be.

>>just appeal to a narrow demographic. The songs don't have
>the
>>"sophistication" to "spread out" to a more broad audience.
>
>i think this is a pretty romantic view. the two songs in
>question get played whether we want to hear them or not. they
>are played at the grocery store and on tv commercials. the
>demographic spreads because enough people genuinely think they
>are good pieces of music/catchy songs and keep playing them
>and to more and more people.


As a black person, I don't think "alabama" and "old time R&R" reach far beyond the "white" demographic. Yeah, those songs get played a lot in public because lot's of public places are geared towards white people.

I'm not saying appealing to white people is bad, but it seems narrow to me in many cases. There's enough white music that can and does appeal to various races that makes those widely appealing classics "stronger" to me than "alabama" and "old time R&R".




>
>>ex: the song "A hard day's night" is a "weak" Beatles
>classic
>>to me because that song just seems to me to be able to just
>>reach die hard Beatles fans.
>>
>>
>>"Strawberry Fields forever" is a "strong" Beatles classic to
>>me because it has the ability to reach a broader audience
>due
>>to the "more sophisticated" artistic qualities of that song.
>
>i would counter that by saying i disagree with your assessment
>that it reaches only a smaller faction of fans of the beatles
>specifically and that "hard day's night" does more in some
>ways than "strawberry fields forever" because it actually is
>more accessible and conventional and attached to the still
>very popular, beloved movie.


I knew this would be murkier because there is the argument that "simple" is "accessible" but to me there is stages where simplicity seems limited then more sophistication seems "impressive" then there seems to be a stage where the sophistication "blands out" and "works against" the artist.

I know the Beatles early hits have something (some definitely more than others) but by "Strawberry Fields" the sophistication was at a point of strength (far from "blanding out").

To me, I'll always give an artist the "edge" when the sophistication is strong (that seemingly usual middle stage). It's a fascinating topic but I'm sure it is recognizable in a lot of artists.

People ain't riding for Kid Rock as much as they are pointing out the lack of real range and talent for Beyoncé.

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"Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."

real question is why doesn't Yonce tell them to settle down, every now and then

shit is weird

armenians. Doesn't really fucking do much for me."


yall think that would fly?

chicks with big tits.' Doesn't really fucking do much for me."



how bout that version?

snoop on IA, i could prolly see it
snoop/kanye mentioning taylor swift or katy perry's tits, yea i think
some mag writers and/or fellow artists would have something to say




what random ppl say on msg boards doesnt apply

Are you talking about ethics of the statement or professional consequences?

tho i doubt anyone has any ethical standards they hold KR to




which is how nugent gets away with all his nonsense

I guess thats what i meant. i dont think he is in the wrong for anything he says here and i dont think your examples would be either.

The fallout tho could be different for each. Kid Rock isnt a social media trend in and of himself the way those others are

what Black people been saying about White superstar artists forever?

That's the only reason I can see to explain why this bulls hit has so many posts.

>That's the only reason I can see to explain why this bulls
>hit has so many posts.

yes

>yes

the reason.


But there has to be some reason.


Probably just 'cause she is a star who withstood Rih Rih's rise and is still drawing attention.

>the reason.
>
>
>But there has to be some reason.
>
>
>Probably just 'cause she is a star who withstood Rih Rih's
>rise and is still drawing attention.

>the reason.
>
>
>But there has to be some reason.
>
>
>Probably just 'cause she is a star who withstood Rih Rih's
>rise and is still drawing attention.

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>
mr smart guy

>

In regards to one of the most influential artists of this generation. It's in poor taste and he needs to stfu.

The whole article does seem a bit like HEAVY pandering

Hangin' with Hank Williams Jr. - Check
Sara Palin mention - Check
Guns - Check
Double-Wide fucking TRAILER!!! - Check
Supporting the troops - Check
Walmart - Check

Roger Ailes coulda wrote this shit..

>The whole article does seem a bit like HEAVY pandering
>
>Hangin' with Hank Williams Jr. - Check
>Sara Palin mention - Check
>Guns - Check
>Double-Wide fucking TRAILER!!! - Check
>Supporting the troops - Check
>Walmart - Check
>
>Roger Ailes coulda wrote this shit..
>

>The whole article does seem a bit like HEAVY pandering
>
>Hangin' with Hank Williams Jr. - Check
>Sara Palin mention - Check
>Guns - Check
>Double-Wide fucking TRAILER!!! - Check
>Supporting the troops - Check
>Walmart - Check
>
>Roger Ailes coulda wrote this shit..



^^^^^sees the ENTIRE GAME......

FOH

posts a story about the social media reaction to an interview most people wouldn't have given two squirts of piss about anyway. Go ahead and list all of Kid Rock's musical talents, bet you didn't give a fuck about that interview until this post.

We're all winners here. This was stupider than the dress thing. At least that was tangentially connected to some interesting science.

"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

>We're all winners here. This was stupider than the dress
>thing. At least that was tangentially connected to some
>interesting science.

fuck that "vs." shit, I don't ride with either side
I'm ambivalent to them both

He got ya'll niggas arguing about Beyonce's hits when the real issue is the way he used black culture like it was dental floss...lol

That full RS interview coupled with his bio comes off like a CLOUD full of side-eye inducing code words....

Former hip-hop MC + Obummer + Romney is swell + Hank Williams Jr. + down with Palin + his old man letting out that N WORD + I got a black baby mama and publicly dated Midori, but on my blond broads > black chicks = VERY suspect...

Dan, RD and a few others are the only folks that seems to get IT....But I'm going to let y'all ROCK (see what I did there?)

>He got ya'll niggas arguing about Beyonce's hits when the
>real issue is the way he used black culture like it was dental
>floss...lol
>
>That full RS interview coupled with his bio comes off like a
>CLOUD full of side-eye inducing code words....
>
>Former hip-hop MC + Obummer + Romney is swell + Hank Williams
>Jr. + down with Palin + his old man letting out that N WORD +
>I got a black baby mama and publicly dated Midori, but on my
>blond broads > black chicks = VERY suspect...
>
>Dan, RD and a few others are the only folks that seems to get
>IT....But I'm going to let y'all ROCK (see what I did there?)

There's a point in his career where he decided to court the tea party crowd to success. He'll always sell records just off the strength of his background. I'm interested to see how people he came up with view him now.

That's one I hear girls reach for at every karaoke night, scream for every time it comes on at a bar, etc.

Crazy in Love and Single Ladies are absolutely both classics. He's out of his fucking mind.

cause ain't no fucking way those songs are classics.

and corn ball cheerleaders and they need to sit down as she does.

these corn ball mush room head turkeys like to make her out to be like Michael Jackson, however her music career is more like Marlon Jackson's.

she ain't done much of nothing despite all the hype

Crazy in love comes as close to a money track as she got and that still isn't gonna be enough to be remembered.

i ain't that big on Kid Rock per se though he has some talent, however he told no lies here and the Kayne cheerleading backlash is in full effect.

Kid Rock doesn't have any classics. He's PWT who exploited black culture only to reveal his true colors by playing up to the worst instincts of working class and rural whites.

But if Beyonce said that in a magazine, I'd say, well she isn't lying. But why is she even entertaining this shit? The fuck does Kid Rock have to do with Beyonce's next project?


It isn't so much that I want to defend Beyonce, as much as I think Kid Rock is a jackass.



"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

That joint with Cheryl Crow. But honestly that song could have had any male country artist on it, and it wouId have still done numbers.

But the comment is just in poor taste. It's in very poor taste to criticize a peer that is more accomplished than you are. To criticize her for the same things he lacks? Nah not here for it. But mofos will jump on the anti Beyonce bandwagon just b/c its Beyonce and they dont agree with or understand her appeal.

If that's the case folks must not care for 85% of these popstars because theyre making the same type of " substance-less " music. Besides like lady GaGa, who else is doing what Beyonce does on that level? None of em.

I mean that genuinely. I like 1 song by Destiny's Child ("Say My Name", what can I say, it's a nice catchy pop song) and after that I wouldn't listen to Beyonce sing unless she was giving me the Marilyn Monroe birthday special.

However, just because I don't like her music, that doesn't mean I find it necessary to go out of my way to denigrate her career. It just feels like those losers ranting about Justin Beiber on youtube. Unless you're an 11 year old girl, why would you waste energy on that either way?

Beyonce isn't making music for Kid Rock, his key demo, or to make revolutionary, thought provoking songs that push the sonic boundary. She's making pop music for a diverse group of women and, let's be honest, gay men. If you're expecting more than that from her you are either unfamiliar with her career to date, or you're just being an asshole.

It would be like me getting mad at U2 for never making a good jazz song.


"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

>I mean that genuinely. I like 1 song by Destiny's Child ("Say
>My Name", what can I say, it's a nice catchy pop song) and
>after that I wouldn't listen to Beyonce sing unless she was
>giving me the Marilyn Monroe birthday special.
>
>However, just because I don't like her music, that doesn't
>mean I find it necessary to go out of my way to denigrate her
>career. It just feels like those losers ranting about Justin
>Beiber on youtube. Unless you're an 11 year old girl, why
>would you waste energy on that either way?
>
>Beyonce isn't making music for Kid Rock, his key demo, or to
>make revolutionary, thought provoking songs that push the
>sonic boundary. She's making pop music for a diverse group of
>women and, let's be honest, gay men. If you're expecting more
>than that from her you are either unfamiliar with her career
>to date, or you're just being an asshole.
>
>It would be like me getting mad at U2 for never making a good
>jazz song.
>

That and the glee that some 'men' appear to be taking in getting behind someone who is obviously coming at this with racial overtones in his comments.

random as hell, but kinda predictable tho

and it ain't like she got a strong catelog or is known as a credible songwriter per se.

Rock Star off kellz double Up album back in 08.

He respects musicianship.

n/m

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"Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."

Fixed it for you.

I mean that's just fucking math.


"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

I think you know what I'm getting at, and not to over state the point but, I can't name more than 2 songs by Beyonce and I can't get behind this shit.


"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

well, I'm a fan of her thighs and Me, Myself and I...

but this dude used every Fox News meta keyword available. You are from Detroit but now you are a hillbilly on a farm in Alabama who likes skinny white girls with big tits.

kudos for not biting the hand that feeds you but c'mon...

>well, I'm a fan of her thighs and Me, Myself and I...
>
>but this dude used every Fox News meta keyword available. You
>are from Detroit but now you are a hillbilly on a farm in
>Alabama who likes skinny white girls with big tits.
>
>kudos for not biting the hand that feeds you but c'mon...
>
>


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"Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."

He knows white country rock pays the bills. He is catering to that audience instead of going back to hip hop or embracing Beyonce's impact on pop music.

You wouldnt expect KR's son to look like this:

http://assets-s3.usmagazine.com/uploads/assets/article_photos/kid-rock-grandpa-son-inline.jpg

Not sure why I need to explain the obvious...

But KR is his own man and can have his own opinion.


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"Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."

>But KR is his own man and can have his own opinion.


Sure...but not when dude went from being immersed in black culture to having Ted Nugent (who called hip-hop artists niggers) on speed dial....

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"Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."

lol...

Rev....I'm astounded by how u and many others in this post are falling for this shit....lol

U guys are so amped to dance on Beyonce (and believe me, that's NOT the issue here...people should be allowed to criticize Yonce....I did so just weeks ago when I started that Beyonce-Selma Grammy post), that u r burying the lede...

While y'all r shaking them pom-poms, Rock is skating on the fact that dude is a classic culture vulture who has basically turned into a new age Ted Nugent....

This dude is a walking Zebra (movie reference) to an even more negative degree who discarded hip-hop when it no longer served its use....

But even more disturbing, Rock has become the new mascot for the Obama hating Far Right beyond the politics...Dude is giving dap to Palin, Nugent and Hank Williams Jr, talks about how he loves white chicks over black chicks (no harm in that) BUT has a black baby mama and dated black chicks when he became famous....

Connect 'dem dots, Y'all....Fuck Kid Rock.....

Kiss my Black Ass...

Fuck that dude. Then again, I can only get so mad at a person who makes an honest and conscious decision to get paid!

He isnt much different than Beyonce when she does pop trash but pulls a "my daddy sang this song" to steal that Selma shine.

Reminds me of Palin when she was talking about admiring Obama's rise before she was picked to be VP.

>Kiss my Black Ass...
>
>Fuck that dude. Then again, I can only get so mad at a person
>who makes an honest and conscious decision to get paid!
>
>He isnt much different than Beyonce when she does pop trash
>but pulls a "my daddy sang this song" to steal that Selma
>shine.
>
>Reminds me of Palin when she was talking about admiring
>Obama's rise before she was picked to be VP.


What 'Yonce did was more on some Prom Queen GREEDY ASS, Selfish CHICK shit....That cannot be connected to the stunt Rock is pulling...

Basically, dude's true nature has come out....His pop would routinely use the N word around him and criticize why he was doing this black hip-hop shit since he raised him on Nugent, "Sweet Home Alabama" and the like....

Rock is now on his Uncle Cracker shit (clever, right?)

>Rev....I'm astounded by how u and many others in this post
>are falling for this shit....lol
>
>U guys are so amped to dance on Beyonce (and believe me,
>that's NOT the issue here...people should be allowed to
>criticize Yonce....I did so just weeks ago when I started that
>Beyonce-Selma Grammy post), that u r burying the lede...
>
>While y'all r shaking them pom-poms, Rock is skating on the
>fact that dude is a classic culture vulture who has basically
>turned into a new age Ted Nugent....
>
>This dude is a walking Zebra (movie reference) to an even more
>negative degree who discarded hip-hop when it no longer served
>its use....
>
>But even more disturbing, Rock has become the new mascot for
>the Obama hating Far Right beyond the politics...Dude is
>giving dap to Palin, Nugent and Hank Williams Jr, talks about
>how he loves white chicks over black chicks (no harm in that)
>BUT has a black baby mama and dated black chicks when he
>became famous....
>
>Connect 'dem dots, Y'all....Fuck Kid Rock.....
>
>

>Rev....I'm astounded by how u and many others in this post
>are falling for this shit....lol
>
>U guys are so amped to dance on Beyonce (and believe me,
>that's NOT the issue here...people should be allowed to
>criticize Yonce....I did so just weeks ago when I started that
>Beyonce-Selma Grammy post), that u r burying the lede...
>
>While y'all r shaking them pom-poms, Rock is skating on the
>fact that dude is a classic culture vulture who has basically
>turned into a new age Ted Nugent....
>
>This dude is a walking Zebra (movie reference) to an even more
>negative degree who discarded hip-hop when it no longer served
>its use....
>
>But even more disturbing, Rock has become the new mascot for
>the Obama hating Far Right beyond the politics...Dude is
>giving dap to Palin, Nugent and Hank Williams Jr, talks about
>how he loves white chicks over black chicks (no harm in that)
>BUT has a black baby mama and dated black chicks when he
>became famous....
>
>Connect 'dem dots, Y'all....Fuck Kid Rock.....
>
>



Why can the dude have his own political views and position? Who said that a person has to stay in the same lane their whole life?


And when did his opinion about a basic talent R&B singer turn into a political and personal inditement against his character?




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"Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."

>Why can the dude have his own political views and position?
>Who said that a person has to stay in the same lane their
>whole life?

U serious, dog?....lol

We all evolve....As I've gotten older I'm a lot more conservative in various aspects of my life...

But me thinking that kids should pull their pants up does not mean I'm going to be on some Dr. Ben Carson is right! shit....It's not going to compel me to say that the Affordable Care Act, which I'm sure some politically minded folks have REAL beef with, is as bad as slavery...

So yeah, when I hear a white boy who came in the music industry worshiping black culture, HAS A BLACK BABY MAMA, DJ'd black parties in Detroit, has black co-signs galore, was rolling with Too Short, and just nearly a decade ago was onstage with Jay Z rocking out on '99 Problems has now transformed into Ted Nugent, yeah, his politics matter....

Ted Nugent is not OUR friend. Ted Nugent would call u a nigger to your face and then strum a couple of licks of "Scratch Cat Fever"....


>And when did his opinion about a basic talent R&B singer turn
>into a political and personal inditement against his
>character?

Ahhh....u fell for that trap. U harping on Rock talking about B's MUSIC....And I'm talking about the fact that the same dude that had his nose wide open on black chicks, hip-hop culture, ect and felt compelled to say that he dug white chicks more than black women, which is hilarious given his past with black chicks...

Nah dog. The code words are all there. Hell, even him name checking "Sweet Home Alabama" is dog whistling like a mug...lol

But like I said I'm going to let u stay stuck on a few words on what Rock thinks about a peer's music and continue to let the contents of that entire interview go over your head....

you are reading too much into the matter.

KR made a comment about Beyonce's discography and you along with other's are turning the matter into a cultural, political, semi-racial issue.

The only thing missing is religion.. This is crazy how wrapped-up into this people have become.

It's not that serious.



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"Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."

Kid Rock doesn't put food on my table. Beyonce has never put gas in my car.

You're right, it isn't THAT serious.

But not being a life and death issue, and Kid Rock being innocent of using racially coded language aren't the same thing.


"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

>Kid Rock doesn't put food on my table. Beyonce has never put
>gas in my car.
>
>You're right, it isn't THAT serious.
>
>But not being a life and death issue, and Kid Rock being
>innocent of using racially coded language aren't the same
>thing.


True.....

It's just another marker in his turn towards right wing asshole.

Mike Huckabee talked shit about her too, and while I don't really care about his opinion, that shit did go into system storage as another example of the ways white media love to denigrate black people.

Kid Rock is a mediocre artist. Beyonce is a mediocre artist. So neither one of them are special, but at least Beyonce didn't ape country music to get famous and then turn around and shit on rural white people once she got famous singing R&B, the way Kid Rock got famous off of hip-hop and the turned towards trashy rock and redneck culture complete with veiled racism.

"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

>It's just another marker in his turn towards right wing
>asshole.
>
>Mike Huckabee talked shit about her too, and while I don't
>really care about his opinion, that shit did go into system
>storage as another example of the ways white media love to
>denigrate black people.
>
>Kid Rock is a mediocre artist. Beyonce is a mediocre artist.
>So neither one of them are special, but at least Beyonce
>didn't ape country music to get famous and then turn around
>and shit on rural white people once she got famous singing
>R&B, the way Kid Rock got famous off of hip-hop and the turned
>towards trashy rock and redneck culture complete with veiled
>racism.


Doesn't fall for the Okey Doke^^^^^^^^^^

>It's just another marker in his turn towards right wing
>asshole.
>
>Mike Huckabee talked shit about her too, and while I don't
>really care about his opinion, that shit did go into system
>storage as another example of the ways white media love to
>denigrate black people.
>
>Kid Rock is a mediocre artist. Beyonce is a mediocre artist.
>So neither one of them are special, but at least Beyonce
>didn't ape country music to get famous and then turn around
>and shit on rural white people once she got famous singing
>R&B, the way Kid Rock got famous off of hip-hop and the turned
>towards trashy rock and redneck culture complete with veiled
>racism.
>
>"All the world's a stage,
>And all the men and women merely players:
>They have their exits and their entrances;
>And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard


BTW Kid Rock is not a mediocre artist, but Beyonce is a mediocre artist.


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"Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."

>BTW Kid Rock is not a mediocre artist, but Beyonce is a
>mediocre artist.


lol....


Nah...Kid is quite mediocre.......He is the essence of mediocrity....At least with Beyonce u can say she sings A LOT better than a lot of R&B/Pop chicks beyond some of her "mediocre" material....

Rock?...dude was always a marginal rapper, DJ, and guitarist who got by because he was "down"...Dude was all gimmick....

In fact, Rock was on that VERY mediocre Nickleback status before he ran into the arms of the Good 'Ol Boy country music circuit (which BTW, go hand in hand with his politics...)

But all this^^^is moot since it takes away from the real issues with Kid Rock....

"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts..." -The Bard

All whilst being a singer, rapper, producer, multi instrumentalist, and trashy bastard.

Not when he used black culture like toilet tissue and then flipped the script on some card carrying ultra Right Wing, fuck-this-hip-hop-shit-I'm-rolling-with-Hank-Williams-III-now shit.....

Fuck his thankless grind. Kid Rock was just out on safari...

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>
>
>Not when he used black culture like toilet tissue and then
>flipped the script on some card carrying ultra Right Wing,
>fuck-this-hip-hop-shit-I'm-rolling-with-Hank-Williams-III-now
>shit.....
>
>Fuck his thankless grind. Kid Rock was just out on safari...

>
>
>
>Not when he used black culture like toilet tissue and then
>flipped the script on some card carrying ultra Right Wing,
>fuck-this-hip-hop-shit-I'm-rolling-with-Hank-Williams-III-now
>shit.....
>
>Fuck his thankless grind. Kid Rock was just out on safari...

Especially considering the 25 year time period in question

>Especially considering the 25 year time period in question


Shit...I wish I had that insight.....lol

I'm just connecting them dots....He seems to have become his father's son all the way....

And not just me

PoppaGeorge is black and has strong knowledge of Detroit's black music underground, and has said the exact opposite of what you are saying

This is like that kevin durant post where i tried to share my extensive experience with orthopedic surgery but you were so entrenched in your own ideas that you just disregarded what me and la2philly were telling you.

Im an argumentative motherfucker but i try to stick to what i know firsthand, and to defer to experience on the other stuff. You seem unwilling to do that.

>And not just me
>
>PoppaGeorge is black and has strong knowledge of Detroit's
>black music underground, and has said the exact opposite of
>what you are saying


I think u have me confused with someone else.....

The reason u didn't see me respond to PoppaGeorge is because I didn't want to get into some discussion about how far Kid Rock's ghetto pass goes back....

In fact, I made it a point to say that his views on Beyonce's MUSIC is not the problem....I could care less that he thinks she's an overrated artist....

I think I've been pretty consistent with my underlining point and I don't have to have Rock's personal data in front of me to make any connection....

Whether Rock was or wasn't DJing in the 'hood and has a Trick Trick co-sign was never part of any point I've been making....

All I know is you can learn a lot from a person from their own words AND the company they keep....

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"Today is your day to have a better life -- it's your right."

Everything and nothing....

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Hey...I gave a silly answer to a silly question, Rev.......

*add to list of okayplayers to not pay attention to*

the interviewer could have brought up just her accomplishment along, and that can shut his disagreement down.

let me shut the fuck up because i can give a shit about beyonce and kid rock

Haven't kept up with anything they've done in ages.

>Haven't kept up with anything they've done in ages.
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I disagree with more than these comments. That being said the "American Badass" is entitled to an opinion.

>I disagree with more than these comments. That being said the
>"American Badass" is entitled to an opinion.

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I think you misconstrued my comment. It's not like I was offended by the video lol. My point is I'm not mad at Kid Rock's opinion on Radiohead or Beyoncé.

he has some talent and he been around a minute still he does nothing for me as a artist though he will try his hand in different styles from time to time.

and ones poltiics etc... is a seperate issue from there music, etc.

as for Beyonce she is one of the ten most overrated artists ever and while she has talent, she sings about the most wackest things.

her voice is wasted on alot of subpar material and she does have that "IT" and I will say she has been the most important Black cross over Artist over the past decade and change,however ain't much been memorable IMO.

Beyonce needs a Candi Station "young hearts RIde Free" type of cut in her catelog and then i might sorta understand half the hype.

Except for, well, those of you who spent all that time arguing over it.

A 40 year + white male who writes middle America songs called "Born Free" and supported Mitt Romney doesn't like Beyonce? OMFG, LET RIOT!!!!

I can't think of a more irrelevant topic of discussion and you should all be ashamed of yourselves for discussing this nonsense.

>Except for, well, those of you who spent all that time
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>A 40 year + white male who writes middle America songs called
>"Born Free" and supported Mitt Romney doesn't like Beyonce?
>OMFG, LET RIOT!!!!
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>should all be ashamed of yourselves for discussing this
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Yo Truth...chill homie......

There's been A LOT more irrelevant stuff discussed on this board....lol...Like A LOT....

She's even more flagrant given his standards stated.

Not nearly as talented as Beyonce as a singer or performer, and her titty game is lack compared to Bey.

.......or pick ANY White artist that got to ascend to "ICON" status via pairing mediocrity with marketing.

> Madonna
>Not nearly as talented as Beyonce as a singer or performer

I especially don't know how anyone can deny the "singer" part, and I'm not even a
Beyonce fan.

but he definitely on some bullshit

he probably had to think real long and slow to make sure he didnt say any racist shit. im surprised at how he managed to give that answer without showing his hand.

anyone who flies that confed flag is a racist who minimizes slavery (IMO)

never liked him or his "music"...even when he had that little midget sidekick...always came across like some white trash rap that river rats were into, along with ICP.

i could give two fucks if he can beat box, play instruments,pop lock on a piece of cardboard, or if he knows what to do with an aerosol can.

i hate that he somehow still gets to represent the D (when ESPN let him narrate that Bad Boys 30 for 30? *CRINGE*)

...if he lost the ability to speak/sing/rap, i would smile and light one up in celebration.

I enjoy Destiny's Child and Beyonce's music faaaaaar more.

#beyhive all day

Patti labelle

Sam Cooke

Donny Hathaway

Luther Vandross

Ledesi

Jill Scott

These are some of my favorite singers...

and you cannot discount them because they dont play more than one instrument.

Just because you can play the harmonica and the cowbell and a banjo..

People go way overboard these days with that "they don't play an instrument" bullshit.

his close collaborator Bobby Byrd (a more skilled keyboard player) said James was tone terrible on the organ (because the way he put his hands all over various keys in an - uh - sloppy way) but...Bobby had to admit that "nobody sounded like him (James)".

I guess everyone plays organ in this case
His drumming on Watermelon Man is a time-keeping exercise with the non-stop kick-drum.
We can all do that with basic rhythm.
I guess I should say he didn't play any instrument "well".
U right tho, he had the balls to get behind one.

I'd say the point here is that Kid Rock would be talking shit about James Brown too,
in regards to instruments, if they were contemporaries, so the criticism is silly.

she's mostly changed the industry and music marketing