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12735504, anybody know to read music?
Posted by tariqhu, Wed Feb-25-15 09:18 AM
My daughter is trying to play Roar by katy Perry, but needs the names for the notes.


edit: she's playing the violin.
12735514, where'd she get her sheet music from?
Posted by FLUIDJ, Wed Feb-25-15 09:24 AM

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12735520, www.onlinesheetmusic.com
Posted by tariqhu, Wed Feb-25-15 09:28 AM
12735606, Assuming a treble clef sheet, the "G" note is where the cross is
Posted by 8-bit, Wed Feb-25-15 10:38 AM
The black spaces are sharps/flats and the note go up the page. Not sure if that's what you're asking, or are you asking about full, half, quarter notes, ties, etc.

I play bass, so I'm playing off a bass clef (F) whenever I get my hands on sheet music, which is rare.
12735720, ha, I think I'm asking all of that.
Posted by tariqhu, Wed Feb-25-15 12:20 PM
we have the music sheet, so I'm trying to get the notes labeled.

thx
12735675, Couple of useful mnemonics I learnt as a kid...
Posted by TheAlbionist, Wed Feb-25-15 11:45 AM
For the notes on the lines of the stave (bottom to top)

Every, Good, Boy, Deserves, Favour(my first music teacher used to say Football and I've heard Fudge too...)

For the notes inbetween lines (bottom to top) spells out F A C E

Very poor attempt at a diagram:

- F
E
- D
C
- B
A
- G
F
- E
12735688, this is hilarious...
Posted by CyrenYoung, Wed Feb-25-15 11:56 AM
>For the notes on the lines of the stave (bottom to top)
>
>Every, Good, Boy, Deserves, Favour(my first music teacher used
>to say Football and I've heard Fudge too...)

(e)very (g)ood (b)oy (d)oes (f)ine (on the line).

the rhyme is what helps you remember its association with notes on the line.

f | a | c | e | is typically shown with spaces, since those notes are located in the space between the lines.

*for whatever reason, the script here won't allow me to place the letters in space in their correct position, but this is the scale:

------------------------F----------------------
E
-------------------D---------------------------
C
---------------B-------------------------------
A
----------G------------------------------------
F
-----E----------------------------------------


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...
12735692, Haha, never even thought of it like that.
Posted by TheAlbionist, Wed Feb-25-15 11:59 AM
Was just the most common mnemonic around when I was learning!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EGBDF

Even Wiki doesn't go for a rhyme (but Fudge makes it sound extra Enid Blyton...)
12735714, its all good, every teacher has their own spin...
Posted by CyrenYoung, Wed Feb-25-15 12:16 PM
..i started learnin' to play by ear somewhere around 3 yrs old and didn't begin formal lessons until after i started grade school. once i heard my instructor give that mnemonic, it all fell together like a mystical jigsaw puzzle.

suddenly, my eyes & ears were in synch. once i learned complex notation (sharp/flat/major/minor), i began devouring every piece of sheet music i could get my hands on.

definitely a game changer.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...
12735701, ^^^ how I learned it
Posted by Niq96st, Wed Feb-25-15 12:06 PM


12735744, thanks to both of you.
Posted by tariqhu, Wed Feb-25-15 12:35 PM
how can I go from what you've shown to labeling the notes on the sheet which are a bit more complex?



12735785, this might sound a bit strange...
Posted by CyrenYoung, Wed Feb-25-15 01:00 PM
..but i think its a lot easier to teach children to read music on a piano.

while your child's initial interest may be in another instrument (in this case, violin), its a lot easier to focus on notation, recognition, and placement with a piano. its a simple instrument (regarding position and response), that allows for immediate gratification and rapid results when learning to play (esp popular music).

*i spent a few years learning violin and because its such a specific instrument (in terms of dexterity), its often difficult to learn. it was much easier for me than most of my classmates because i was free to focus on technique. still, every person is unique and i certainly wouldn't discourage any child from pursuing the instrument of their choice. perhaps you can pair the two instruments and learn to read & play them in tandem?


if you're interested in taking that route, i strongly suggest the hoffman academy: https://www.hoffmanacademy.com/

as posted in Organix: http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=32&topic_id=200&mesg_id=200&page=

not sure if people realize it, but Organix can easily be a great online resource, but we need your help.

as far as hoffman academy, i think its one of the most comprehensive courses i've ever seen online for learning to read music.





*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...
12735857, I never thought about that.
Posted by tariqhu, Wed Feb-25-15 01:37 PM
this hoffman site looks pretty dope. will check it out along with organix.

preciate it.
12736303, this takes me back....
Posted by bayoubyyou, Wed Feb-25-15 07:45 PM
12735879, QUESTION: full sized electric piano to learn piano on....
Posted by FLUIDJ, Wed Feb-25-15 01:49 PM
Good or bad idea? I know the pedals would be missing, but I dont have space for a real piano...
12735923, I got a $300 electric piano from Guitar Center and it's great.
Posted by Wonderl33t, Wed Feb-25-15 02:20 PM
And a sustain pedal is like $20. I have gotten quite a use out of it. I have the Casio CDP-120. The current model is CDP-130. And it appears to be on sale at Guitar Center right now.

>Good or bad idea? I know the pedals would be missing, but I
>dont have space for a real piano...


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12736003, ahh THANKS! edit
Posted by FLUIDJ, Wed Feb-25-15 02:53 PM
sorry...this is the one:http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-P95B-Digital-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B003KVKSYY/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1424894423&sr=1-1&keywords=Yamaha+P95

Planning ahead for the little one, not me....
I'm thinking we may try to introduce her to piano at 3 or 4 years old.... figured something like that might be ideal.
12736122, RE: ahh THANKS! edit
Posted by Wonderl33t, Wed Feb-25-15 04:11 PM
There you go. That one looks good and the reviews are good. It may come with a pedal, or you can buy one if it doesn't http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-FC4-Piano-Style-Sustain/dp/B0002F52EW/

>sorry...this is the
>one:http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-P95B-Digital-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B003KVKSYY/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1424894423&sr=1-1&keywords=Yamaha+P95
>
>Planning ahead for the little one, not me....
>I'm thinking we may try to introduce her to piano at 3 or 4
>years old.... figured something like that might be ideal.


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12736214, Google "tabliture for violin"
Posted by furtim_infesto, Wed Feb-25-15 05:22 PM
Reading tabs if you don't know note to finger placement makes
life easy for string players.