Is this dude's best interview yet? He came correct on every topic.

http://www.power1051fm.com/pages/onair/breakfast-club/

I didn't want the Yeezys to be $350. I don't wanna play this sneaker culture game. I want the h&m price point.

Yes. I'm with that.

not a grown man LOL

like he should be that way because hes a grown man and a father.


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no "blank" post?

or the even more pet peevy

no "blank" post yet?

no nigga, it's not...u the first...here's your trophy presented by Drake himself...and let's just go ahead and emblazon the search button in gold

i'm not coming at u btw...just really irrationally irked by this look at what i heard minutes, hours, days before you guise trend

i was also genuinely surprised there weren't 2-3 posts about it already.

it's the fact that there are like 4-5 posts like this daily

i get the surprise...just keep it out the title...

i almost never click any posts that say that lol

like i said it's an irrational reaction to some shit

>i almost never click any posts that say that lol


I love it.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"One of the most important things in life is what Judge Learned Hand described as 'that ever-gnawing inner doubt as to whether you're r

did i somehow say it ruined my day?

or did i just say it's a stupid trend and i'd wish it'd stop

did i somehow say it ruined my day?

or did i just say it's a stupid trend and i'd wish it'd stop

give him a break.


i need to bump my irrational hate post again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6FaNFBl_Bc

if you don't see that shit, just post it.

it's not just you. don't let these people make you feel crazy
it's annoying lol

instead of asking...just search...then u don't have to title your post with a question that's already been asked...it's painfully easy

sometimes i reply to the post by talking about why there's been no post about __ instead of talking about __ as the OP clearly intended.

b/c fuck that dumb shit.

I was sayin' this about a year ago.

Shit is BEYOND redundant.

That legit made me laugh that he never heard the album.

LMAO!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toWk6mybzVE

*I have no knowledge of him or his shtick, but it even though there isn't much antagonism in this particular interview, he does give off a vibe like he kinda tryin to jab him a lil bit.

It's funny that he sits next to the guest too, since he seems the most likely to get punched.

b.) they have a history of shitting on each other a lil bit lol

he gets in their face and intimidates/antagonizes...he can be a lot worse than this...it works because he has the other two to balance him out though.

>It's funny that he sits next to the guest too, since he seems
>the most likely to get punched.

http://youtu.be/TEYaLzRDyIA

I agree it was well done, I loved seeing so many black models for a change and and all up front

Joe said HOW MANY showers before Kim? FOUL...yet hilarious!

he's said some petty shit about her before but given the way this interview was going it came out of left field.

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Please explain.

When I started dating this one girl back in the day...she was lightweight privy to who i'd previously dated before her....well the one before had a somewhat bad reputation or whatever....so one of the things she'd say in jest is that I better take a couple of hundred showers before she'd even entertain letting me holler....

That's the sentiment behind what he said.... Kim must have suggested similar to him...whether in jest or full sincerity.... it's a common thing though...
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before AND after your example. That doesn't make it any less foul.

mad hits under their belts ......skeleton in and OUTSIDE of their closets......
I really don't get all the pearl clutching going on in this post....
if that shit was said about Michelle Obama or something....yeah...I could see it....
y'all feeling real extra today I guess....
everybody in here on opposite sides caping for two opposing yet likely equally shitty people....lol...
carry on.....
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I thought every chick says that when they want the full 100 from a man

It seemed like he was saying that BECAUSE it was Amber giving the impression that she was THAT dirty. That's how I took it.

folks that have heard that line of thinking before (in jest or seriousness...but generally in jest) and folks that haven't.

It's amazing to me that it's bringing out this much animosity in folks on here though....it's really a shame folks want to come in here bashing each other over this dumb shit.

But alas...that's the state of OKP....nobody knows how to have a lighthearted thread anymore....and it's generally the same bamas coming through turning shit all sour....
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i'm the most influential person in the sneaker game now...

Kanye is NOT on his level?
hell the 3 guys who left Nike for Addidas have more influence

he is a marketing tool in the sneaker game not the game changer

>Kanye is NOT on his level?
>hell the 3 guys who left Nike for Addidas have more influence
>
>
>he is a marketing tool in the sneaker game not the game
>changer
>

First off fuck you,

I am aware of "shoe culture" and I'm trying to find out who you feel is an influencer. Can you name all of the shoes Hatfield is currently creating?


>>Kanye is NOT on his level?

Kanye is not a designer. Influencer and designer doesn't always mean the same thing.


>>hell the 3 guys who left Nike for Addidas have more
>influence


They have so much influence but you don't even know the niggas names.


>>
>>he is a marketing tool in the sneaker game not the game
>>changer
>>
>


He has successfull sold out shoes with Nike, Louis Vuitton and now Adidas...


OK who else is doing that?


Do you know what influence means?

>First off fuck you,
>
>I am aware of "shoe culture" and I'm trying to find out who
>you feel is an influencer. Can you name all of the shoes
>Hatfield is currently creating?
>
Not sure why you are replying to me but this is all I have:

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/04/exclusive-nike-unveils-the-xx9-basketballs-first-high-definition-shoe

But still...

These influential ass dudes ain't selling out kicks


But the moment had passed.

I asked a simple ass question.


When was the last time someone asked for some new Tinker Hatfield's or Jason Petrie's


Influential is Kanye selling out a shoe just because.

How many pair of Roshe's do you have in your closet? Outside of the retro shoes from 20-30 years ago, Nike has been living off retros more than anything. That new shit is barely catching.

>I asked a simple ass question.
I answered the question...
>
>
>When was the last time someone asked for some new Tinker
>Hatfield's or Jason Petrie's
I didn't say the man created anything new recently i said he is the MORE influential than ye... period point blank
>
>
>Influential is Kanye selling out a shoe just because.
>
>How many pair of Roshe's do you have in your closet? Outside
>of the retro shoes from 20-30 years ago, Nike has been living
>off retros more than anything. That new shit is barely
>catching.

this is like saying RL is not influential bc he hasn't changed the design of the polo shirt in years...

hey if u think he's ruling the sneaker culture u believe that... i think differently

>
>
>
>

And bringing back all of the retro 90s shoes.

Tinker isn't current (outside of the Back To The Future Shoe) all I am saying.


I am not even a Kanye stan, but you can't argue that dude isn't an influencer.


Niggas not trying to snark and shit damn.

check ur stats my friend... they own like 90% of the footwear in the nba
they own baseball unis
football unis
take a walk outside and count how many pairs u see just casually being worn...

in the sneakerhead world they are way ahead as well.
check the blogs... name the last 3 color ways of the Lebron shoe and then try just try to name the last 3 color ways of the d rose shoe ...

I never used the word bulk....

I said they make money off old Tinker designs.


Tinker new shit isn't what's hot in the streets.


Calm that shit down.


You just post mad as hell FAM...

I can't tell whether Kanye is only into what sounds good or if he's genuine. Because it's like he's on both sides of every argument.

that could be why it seems like he's on 'both sides' of whatever it is he's talking about

To hush the "is he crazy and/or on drugs?" talk people were having after his last stunt. I guess that type of attention would've hurt whatever he's doing next. I wonder how long this normal, slightly humble persona will last before he's on a rampage again.

So I dont quite understanding the slut shaming aspect. And I dont want to hear that he was just defending his family bullshit.

" If I dated Kim when I wanted to be with her, there would be no Amber Rose..." uhh just like how there would be no Kim if not for Ray J?

He basically confirmed that 25 year old Tyga is dating 17 year old Kylie and is smart for it. " I think he got in early, I think he was smart." Disgusting.

>He basically confirmed that 25 year old Tyga is dating 17 year
>old Kylie and is smart for it. " I think he got in early, I
>think he was smart." Disgusting.

there would be a kim...she'd might still be in paris hilton's shadow...

but she'd be in the same lane...just not likely as huge

Cause I didn't know until I saw an episode of the Kardashians. I'm betting hardly anyone knew that until after she became famous..outside of her own Beverly Hill scene of course.

That tape made her a household name. I think it's a fair comparison. Amber was probably a Philly socialite/ low level stripper/ celeb in her own right as well prior to Kanye.

The only difference here is one came from money and the other didnt. They both got chose from running in those socialite scenes. Both came up off of sex related work, one stripping, and the other porn. They're just not that different to me.

i'm saying she was already on her way so to speak...

it was pretty inevitable that Paris 15 minutes would get stolen by her prettier mini-me

the sex tape is what made it more than the usual 15 minutes...that and her being way more attractive than the rest of them and having a whole family of attention whores willing to jump on board

>i'm saying she was already on her way so to speak...
>it was pretty inevitable that Paris 15 minutes would get
>stolen by her prettier mini-me

But at this point we'll never know.

Kim's "15" minutes started with Ray J. No one even knew she was Paris Hilton's mini me period until after she was already famous. With no discernible skills besides organizing closets I really don't see how she would have come up besides dating up, which she did. Just like Amber. Kris and Robert Kardashian/ Bruce Jenner didn't have the same platform or level of celebrity that the Hilton's did to catapult their talentless children into fame.

>the sex tape is what made it more than the usual 15
>minutes...that and her being way more attractive than the rest
>of them and having a whole family of attention whores willing
>to jump on board

True the family added the marketability for sure. I ain't mad at her at all for that, she saw an opportunity and took it.

but she was already in the tabloids...

it really was just a matter of time before they found a way to spring that into something else

ray-j always been C list...she was D list scratching at C list...

her being attractive and on any list period made it possible for that to matter...

nobody saw that sex tape bc ray-j was in it...it was well timed after Paris BS tape...and bc of her close association with Paris...it made it relevant enough to be as big a deal as it was

it was a perfect storm...

i think her attractiveness and her association with Paris would have got her far enough if not where she is now...that's the part i think is inevitable...not her being A-list...they knew who she was long before "we" did is what i'm saying

>but she was already in the tabloids...
>
>it really was just a matter of time before they found a way to
>spring that into something else
>
>ray-j always been C list...she was D list scratching at C
>list...
>
>her being attractive and on any list period made it possible
>for that to matter...
>
>nobody saw that sex tape bc ray-j was in it...it was well
>timed after Paris BS tape...and bc of her close association
>with Paris...it made it relevant enough to be as big a deal as
>it was

Uh Ray-J's name definitely was the catalyst behind that tape even getting the publicity that it got. Since no one even knew who she was, a porn tape starring Kim K and Joe Schmoe would have gotten no where. Of course no one was watching for Ray j, but no one really watches porn for the men anyway, people are watching for the hot girl, and she was that.


>it was a perfect storm...
>
>i think her attractiveness and her association with Paris
>would have got her far enough if not where she is now...that's
>the part i think is inevitable...not her being A-list...they

I don't, cause Paris Hilton is not even Paris Hilton anymore. She would have to come up by dating up. In that Hollywood scene there's literally thousands of socialite Kim K level type of girls, that tape is what helped set her apart from the rest.

>knew who she was long before "we" did is what i'm saying

you are basically doing what kanye is doing to amber

but with ray-j and kim k

she was vapid and pretty and was on the fringes of hollywood socialite popularity

Ray-J is and was Brandy's brother...they both benefited from the shit but she would have been on reality tv either way...she was already so close...

Paris had a sex tape and that shit hurt her...not bc the guy wasn't ray-j but bc it was a fucking night vision tape and nobody cared that much to see her naked anyway

She was already on the bubble...without the tape...it would have been her and one of her other many celeb romances/marriages

she was on her way...the sex tape just sped and blew EVERYTHING up even bigger

she's famous for nothing...no more sex tapes and she's still staying "relevant" bc she snatched the spotlight from Paris (easy at the time even without the sex tape) and ran with it with full familial support

she wasn't going to be stopped...clearly she'll do anything lol

they both used what they got to get to where they wanted

one had money
the other didnt
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of what she was doing beyond stripping, videos, and dating rappers

i don't know what she was doing...and as sustainable as all that can be...it may or may not lead to much more

i did.

>Cause I didn't know until I saw an episode of the
>Kardashians. I'm betting hardly anyone knew that until after
>she became famous..outside of her own Beverly Hill scene of
>course.

she wasnt "famous" but she had as much of a name as some of those other socialites at the time. she was a level behind Paris, but there's a reason why there was any interest in the sextape in the first place. and its not cause it was good or bc Ray J was a megastar.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/briangalindo/8-times-paris-hilton-made-kim-kardashian-feel-like-crap#.idNrBBoZE


>That tape made her a household name. I think it's a fair
>comparison. Amber was probably a Philly socialite/ low level
>stripper/ celeb in her own right as well prior to Kanye.

Philly low level stripper is a few notches lower on the f*cked up social scale we're using here. She def was not a "Philly socialite."

>The only difference here is one came from money and the other
>didnt. They both got chose from running in those socialite
>scenes. Both came up off of sex related work, one stripping,
>and the other porn. They're just not that different to me.

I agree theyre not that different. but even if everything you say is true, that doesnt mean what Kanye said isn't true. regardless of his likely hypocritical views when it comes to his own wife.

This is pre-sextape btw.. since the "rumors" of the tape were mentioned..

http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2011/05/kim-kardashian-2007-cover-story-gallery

and he didn't seem as crazy as usual.

No matter how ridiculous. His fans are just like Beyonce's fans in that sense, they think
he can do no wrong.

I went to Yeezus tour and was baffled, like this shit is what niggas is clammering over? :shrugs:

but his mind is warped and distorted by the fame and the circles he's in.

Essentially he's saying if he'd got with Kim when he first wanted to, the entire discussion and "beef" and drama surrounding Amber wouldn't be at thing.

He's saying that Amber Rose wouldn't exist. Remember "Yeezy taught me"

I don't believe that was the sentiment behind his answer...
.

>Essentially he's saying if he'd got with Kim when he first
>wanted to, the entire discussion and "beef" and drama
>surrounding Amber wouldn't be at thing.

He's saying that if he wouId have dated Kim when he initially wanted to that he wouldn't have dated Amber and thus she wouldn't exist period. I don't see how you even misconstrued that for being something else.

direct and succinct than in other interviews where it seemed like every response to a question was measured and would take forever to get to the point

I hope he knows that plastic surgery isn't hereditary.

That it's important for North to see that shapes like Kim's are beautiful in addition to the thin images that the media pushes because she might have a body like that one day and he wants her to know that, that is beautful too... But it was still a weird comment none the less.

that's 3 points that have totally flown over your head and that you're trying to frame as one thing when they are the complete opposite....

on these boards....you'll type one thing...but folks come through and twist it into a whole OTHER thing and then chaos.
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Instead of an outside party interpretation of what they thought he meant, until he says otherwise.

I know the BC wanted to go in on that

https://instagram.com/p/zVEx-US2M6/

Eh, not my world.

Lmao wow cause two days ago, he was denying it.

From a stripper to a Kardashian just like Kanye I see.

One of the VERY few times, I'm actually disaapointed and, frankly, damned near disgusted by Kanye.

not cool, fam.

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=12732283&mode=full#12732520
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I just can't clap to that. As someone said, They are FAR more similar than they are different.

I ain't saying it's right...lol
But i'm sure she's not the first woman to say that to her man

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You can't unsee that shit. You gon have to get one of them "Endless Sunshine Of The Spotless Minds" type mental scrubs to get that shit out of your psyche.

You can't unsee that shit. You gon have to get one of them "Endless Sunshine Of The Spotless Minds" type mental scrubs to get that shit out of your psyche.

seem like he was trying to say the right things. but it had awkward moments like when he talked about tyga and the teenager. like he didn't want to throw shade about a grown ass man and a teen girl.

are him being honest

taking the shot at amber...was low but honestly seemed framed in a way that made it seem like kim had more of a problem with it rather than him

either way...it's hypocritical but that whole beef in general is idiotic...the only high road to it is not even addressing it...but i don't mind that he is bc that's real to who he is without trying to be an all-out dick

he wears a bit of his flaws...he's better at damage control in this interview without completely abandoning his dickhead persona

so it is a good interview but his amber shot and his dame dash position were both shitty dickhead stances to take...he did a better job at framing it...and it's understandable but this gotta be one of the first interviews of his where i didn't wanna punch him in every other second

he trying

and if he keeps this up...i might find his image tolerable...not enough to encourage his adidas hunger game fusion line but still

expectation that you shit on any exes that she doesn't like at any opportunity that presents itself...it's part of the contract....lol...

I am not mad at that man at ALL....
I STAY shittin on my exes...lol..
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Then you're corny too.

Whatever is said between yall is fine but to be gossipy about it is lame and girly af. Not to mention it also says just as much about you as it does them because you chose to date a person with those characteristics that you're shitting on.

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Or attempts to justify Kanye's foolishness at every opportunity, whichever is more fitting.

.

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Let's not expand your experience to the entire institution of marriage and the entire female-identified part of the species.
Like, can we not?

that you can't accept a little levity in dialogue???? sheeeesh....
y'all need to geek down for real.....
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Has anyone mentioned anything about the "video game" he's making where you are Donda trying to make it through the gates of heaven???

I try to support most of Ye's fuckery but umm

what is he thinking with that shit?

i hope.
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that this "news" is now featured on okayplayer's sidebar

good sh*t on the very same show a few days ago, lol.

Khloe Kardashian jumped in and said Amber shouldn't be commenting on her sister's relationship when she was stripping at 15.... Implying that she was a whore..Amber claps back saying that she stripped and whored to support her family just like Kim did/does.

Perhaps she should have just stuck to taking shots at Khloe since Kim wasnt involved in any of the mess to begin with. But I get her stance, it's kind of hypocritical of Khloe to insult Amber for those things when her sister did the same things... Khloe needs to be defending her sister from that predator instead of Amber tho.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HKqx6DwBaw

Niggaz been dating 17yr old chicks forever.

Like...forever.

FOR-E-VER.

Would I do it?

No.

Personally I don't have the patience for anyone below their late 20's.

But this shit?

For people to be so brand new about it is just....

weird.

I remember hella chicks in my 12th grade class dating dudes 20+. They wouldn't give us the time of day because them older cats had money, cars. etc.

So the pearl clutching is weird to me.

We'd definitely give him a skeptical eyebrow or a headshake. It'd definitely be seen as kind of a sucker move.

But I don't get how it makes him a filthy monster or whatever.



I'm foreign, tho.

Or that we shouldn't speak out about it or continue to try and normalize it.

plus her family are filled with fame whores

You can start at your local high school and hold up signs if this is considered a major problem.

Why are we waiting for a celebrity to do it to make a fuss?

>You can start at your local high school and hold up signs if
>this is considered a major problem.
>
>Why are we waiting for a celebrity to do it to make a fuss?

folks trying to discourage adults preying on adolescents
dont mean the protests and articles and thought pieces and studies
havent been happening


dont NOBODY like Kells
where the hell you been?
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You cannot hate people for their own good.

>
>
>dont NOBODY like Kells
>where the hell you been?

And either way R.Kelly situation is totally different and we all know this.

Or drinking alcohol
Or selling drugs
Ect
And the list goes on, dosent mean we can't comment or have to accept it as appropriate. They're free to do what they want and were free to discuss it.

.

Regardless of whether it's Tyga and Kylie or whoever else.

But that's just my opinion, if that's normal to you then fine but to me it is not.

Personally, I don't agree with it.

Personally, I would be pissed if a grown man was trying to get at MY teen daughter.

But in THIS case...

Hey, fuck 'em.

I'm not wasting my worry or concern over the Kardashians adding something else to the list of things I don't agree with in their life of privilege.

If they are "supervising" their daughter dating an adult, that's on them.

It isn't a new scenario.

It would be like me being concerned about Kylie smoking cigarettes or drinking wine or something.

you have 15 year olds in clubs getting served alcohol and drugs...

I went out to LA to see my people and a friend of a friend was dating some little singer who looked like she was 15. She brought her parents to the studio to meet him.

Just fucking weird...

I'm looking at the parents like WTF... and they looked at me like WTF, don't judge us, we trying to get our baby on a hot track.

Because we already know the overtly sexual and predatory nature of Hollywood and we SEE how a lot of the people who are victims of it turn out. A lot of them become mentally fucked up.

And mofos in here debating about whether shes in danger, when we've seen the firsthand effects of how that lifestyle can destroy people.

her mom has pimped all of them out and they make a shit load of money.

I'm not going to fake my outrage over these weirdos...

Some people may be genuinely concerned and outraged and if you'd rather save yours for something else then cool, but there is nothing to gain from discouraging others from caring or having a dialogue about it.

be honest

Is what she's saying.

Whilst dating 54 year olds and not seeing the irony.

You DO know that the "teenager" is a relatively new invention right?

Age of consent being raised from 13 yrs old is only something that has happened in last 100 yrs or so in the US

i saw the documentary 'teenage' and it seems the creation of the 'teenager' was for the betterment of their lives. prior to that kids were pretty fucking miserable.

In terms of consent.. I am saying its arbitrary as fuck...

we move these ruler lines around but at its core they mean nothing..

lol...

I just think we have to look at human behavior and cultural interaction in a much larger (time) context than we often do. People assume that things are "supposed" to be a certain way because of a blip in time

but in a larger context that could've just been an anomaly..

BBD rapped about fucking underage chicks ON RECORD in 1990... every bad chick in my High School dated dudes in their 20's.

These things aren't right or wrong they are just culturally what we think is "acceptable".

you going to start using outdoor toilets
stop bathing daily
stop using deodorant
because hey
hygiene
it fluxuates
and anyways history and current cultural hygiene is just a blip in time


wait are you an anti vax'er
lemme know cause i just cant with yall
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You cannot hate people for their own good.

fuck no...

take them vaccines.. I hate them people

you stink... use deodorant

Human behavior is not the same as scientific advancement..

>You DO know that the "teenager" is a relatively new invention
>right?
>Age of consent being raised from 13 yrs old is only something
>that has happened in last 100 yrs or so in the US

Because theyre still fuckin children, and research ( probably done within the last 100 years or so) suggests that their brains are not fully developed and that they're more inclined to make bad decisions, because they're still children. It's primitive and archaic for men to date children and im glad were making attempts to discourage that practice.

So there is some scientific difference between a 17 yr old the day before their birthday and an 18 yr old the day after?

Also...

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24173194

Legally he'd be protected but it's still gross.

A 25 yr old "dating" a teenager is disgusting & shameful, full stop.

What makes him an adult exactly? age?

You can argue that besides his child they have almost the exact same job, lifestyle they are in the same class.

But I dont make the rules.

well I can dig that..

But if an 18 yr old is sanctioned to slaughter people under the "flag" dating isn't really that crazy of an issue huh..

Relatively new in the scheme of the Earth's existence, sure.
But surely you cannot be making an argument that just because it's only something that's mattered for oh, 100 years or so, that we should just be like *shrug* "oh well"?

Cultural expectations and mores shift over time, that's true. But we go by what defines our time not by what was once at some point in the history of civilization cool.

>You DO know that the "teenager" is a relatively new invention
>right?
>
>Age of consent being raised from 13 yrs old is only something
>that has happened in last 100 yrs or so in the US

isn't right in your opinion you mean?

means nothing to them, but 25 and 17 aint really that close to me. having said that, if Tyga says they arent f*cking, then i'll take his word for it until proven otherwise

people rely on these pseudo insightful logic/emo question crutches like this way too often...

some people care bc they see it as pedophilia lite...

most people don't actually care...but still think it's fucked up

leave it at that...we give so much thought to the unreasonable folks...keep them niggas mentally marginalize when trying to have genuine discourse

and how does that take away from the fact that these niggas is at best equally as disgusting as everyone else

i remember i was 21 messing with a 17 year old and was questioning that shit...couldn't imagine if was 2o fucking 5

the fact that everyone is acting like it's SOP is always going to be disturbing...even more so for a fam of hypocritical attention whores

that shit fucking wack...not uncommon wackness but that really doesn't add to the discussion unless u planning on further normalizing that shit

the outrage can is extra...but even more common

If the general topic of 17yr olds dating 20+ yr olds isn't a major topic of discussion until a celebrity does it, it's bullshit to express any concern about it now.

If the conversation continues beyond their relationship, great.

But it won't.

It's just another thing to judge a celebrity for.

but your reasoning isn't sticking...u didn't really respond to me either but "last word"

niggas acting like motherfuckers out here rocking Free Kylie shirts like she Tyga got her in a fucking Eric Garner chokehold...

niggas just expressing their disdain niggas...

u just aint there for when they need to express it in person...

bc as common as yall pretend this shit is...it's usually kept pretty fucking quiet by the people involved...

people always trying to gotcha niggas..aint no gotchas in this shit...

tyga a creep

and whether or not anybody is actually concerned about the young thot in training...

it has zero bearing on the useless discussion about people's disdain for it...

i'm all for combating useless outrage...but this aint that battle fam

This Tyga/Kylie thing has been a top (pop culture) topic for the past week now it seems (if not longer.. I don't know because I don't keep up).

But it stops there.

On these radio shows, social media, etc. there are no follow-up questions or discussion about the culture of 17yr old girls dating men in their 20s.

Nothing.

It's just something to judge THEM about.

Not something people really want to address.

Which is my point.

Ok, people think this makes Tyga a creep. Got it. If that's where the topic ends, it's really time to move on.

Because if it really stops there, the only reason to have the discussion is because we somehow "care" what's going on with them.

But we don't.

So enough already.

and i agree

a way better way to come at it then the whole near normalization tone u had originally

but your reasoning isn't sticking...u didn't really respond to me either but "last word"

niggas acting like motherfuckers out here rocking Free Kylie shirts like she Tyga got her in a fucking Eric Garner chokehold...

niggas just expressing their disdain niggas...

u just aint there for when they need to express it in person...

bc as common as yall pretend this shit is...it's usually kept pretty fucking quiet by the people involved...

people always trying to gotcha niggas..aint no gotchas in this shit...

tyga a creep

and whether or not anybody is actually concerned about the young thot in training...

it has zero bearing on the useless discussion about people's disdain for it...

i'm all for combating useless outrage...but this aint that battle fam

whether its a ham sandwich or Kylie Jenner. You care about it, them the rules.

Age of consent is 16 over here and it always seemed pretty appropriate as a teenager; plenty of my female friends dated older and plenty of my male friends dated younger when I was in my early 20s... I can't see myself being attracted to a girl 15 years younger than me, but I really don't see a problem if they both go in with their eyes open.

People are just desperate to be outraged about something they have absolutely no connection to.

Like, he has made albums that beginning-end I fuck w/ the long way (c) Jhonni Blaze but dude has become white trash & nah bruh it's sad & gross.

who use the inbox to try to get with teenage okp girls on here.

i remember that.

the "what's the big deal?" responses in here re: an ADULT man dating a TEENAGER is a symptom of why so many women left okp.

But yeah, we don't really wanna get into how our cousins, grandparents/parents, etc. are perps/products of rape.

So we keep it cute & say ages of consent are arbitrary, the parents cool w/ it, etc. etc.

But yeah, my grandpa rapist trash for marrying my grandma @ 15 when he was 21 & chances are I ain't the only 1 w/ a rapist granddad either.

What was the context to the marriage? I have a similar situation in my family.

you on that Cecily Tyson

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>But yeah, we don't really wanna get into how our cousins,
>grandparents/parents, etc. are perps/products of rape.
>
>So we keep it cute & say ages of consent are arbitrary, the
>parents cool w/ it, etc. etc.
>
>But yeah, my grandpa rapist trash for marrying my grandma @ 15
>when he was 21 & chances are I ain't the only 1 w/ a rapist
>granddad either.

himself.

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Like I can't believe many people riding for ish he said here UNLESS it was Kanye saying it.

It's like cause dude didn't go on some insane rant he gets points.

Not a fan of the term slut shaming but awful taste talking about an ex like that.

Also co-signing the young Kardashian stuff? SMH.


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as serious and pearl-clutching worthy as folks are trying to make it out to be....at least not the Amber Rose stuff....
the way he responded to the Tygga shit is foul how it came out and at face value though....That was the only thing that made me look sideways through the whole thing....
.

with Amber.

now, as a man, if you don't know women who haven't fucked with dudes cuz of who they used to fuck, then you don't know women.

AND she done been married like 4 times already

like come on...

if they had that convo...cool...aint his job to tell her she being a hypocrite idiot...but u don't share that shit bc it makes both of yall look like hypocrite idiots

he was saying that was HER (Kim's) thoughts.

so, she's welcome to HER thoughts even if people think she is ALSO a slut/ho/smutpiece/etc. who also did questionable (in the public's eye) things sexually.

goddamn, people need to grow the fuck up. no one is a saint and people need to have some maturity. even Kim, who shouldn't be judging another woman's sexual past (just as people shouldn't judge Kim's, IMO).

but the fact that people are slandering Kanye like these are HIS thoughts on Amber is ridiculous. i'm not even a mack like that and i've been judged by women for chicks i used to fuck. it's just something women do despite everyone basically being a whore.

let it go.

that shit was veiled disrespect and yall acting like Kim K actually said that shit smh

yall niggas sippin so much kool-aid

even if she did tell him that...u dont share that shit lol

yall niggas wild

not sure why people on here are trying to act like Hollywood/entertainment industry doesn't have a different set of rules than the rest of America.

Is it right? No...

Are we surprised by it? No...

I must have heard a whole other interview

The Amber shot was low, but in context of the conversation it was just a throwaway remark. (plus I always found this Kim vs Amber shit funny since they are basically the same archtype/character)

By that weird awkward pause on when the Tyga question came up you could tell he was working the best PC response as opposed to 'that niggas a rapist' thus the 'he got in early' remark. This is still his family people, you gonna go on radio and talk shit about ya not acting right cousin?

Basicall this is the most humble and even keeled ive heard this motherfucker.

i agree with you but let's not act like he aint complete dick just bc he finally learned how to moderate that shit a bit

his stance on dame was lame and i think that says even more about his character than anything else

he tried to frame it in a nice way but what it really amounts to is..."i don't care how dope dame's perspective is...exploiting my business relationship with jay would profit me more"

which is perfectly fine...but for someone who claims he's genius and this and that...and his passion comes first...nah...he's just out for whatever benefits him most

but I don't take Ye's words seriously...

I just fuck with his hot shit and don't fuck with his not hot shit...

It was honest. He said that Dame put him on, but at the time he followed Jay because that was the better career move at the time.

It's a choice that many of us would chose, art OR business wise. You never had to make a career/personal move for self that someone (a mentor, friends, family) might see as slimey towards them.

He could have dodged that question, but he answered that at the time it was better for him...along with the Jay-Z worship. I just don't see how else he could have answered that question better or more honestly.


I just think because he's such a blowhard when he falls we want him to be on some mega-mea culpas, tears and all

>It was honest. He said that Dame put him on, but at the time
>he followed Jay because that was the better career move at the
>time.
>
>It's a choice that many of us would chose, art OR business
>wise. You never had to make a career/personal move for self

the way he sounds...is it way more a biz decision than an art decision...he tried to color it up a bit...

and like i said...many people would make the same choice

but if i had as much confidence in what i do...it wouldn't have mattered what parent got custody...i'm a passionate genius..in reality...i'm a smart business man

it was pretty honest but not the raw honesty he's so famous for...this is one of those few times where being raw would have shown genuine humility rather than arrogance

i don't like dude and overall i did like this interview but there were some striking moments that confirm my "issues" with him

he even did an interview back then on MTV and admitted it...he's never pretended it wasn't a disloyal but always acknowledged that he felt it was the best move for his career. makes perfect sense to me.

there's an audio clip where he says "i think...i think they're in love...you can't tell them.." So no he doesn't see anything wrong with it.

http://www.x17online.com/2015/02/kanye_west_leaked_audio_clip_kylie_tyga_in_love_022015

>By that weird awkward pause on when the Tyga question came up
>you could tell he was working the best PC response as opposed
>to 'that niggas a rapist' thus the 'he got in early' remark.
>This is still his family people, you gonna go on radio and
>talk shit about ya not acting right cousin?

y'all must just not like dude.

he actually let the public in this time and people are more mad than ever.

lol.

Almost comical.

I remember a post about the largest age gap people had when dating.

Women were saying 15 years, 20 years..

Hannah even said she went on a date with a 65 year old... j/k.

wait...

In retrospect of course.

Which is why I dont encourage it.

Like people aren't supposed to grow up and be like, "wow, what I did when I was younger was probably not a good idea."

I didn't date older men, to be clear, but knew many who did. But I'm not going to say what 15, 16, 17 year old girls wanna do is always the best thing for them. Anyone breathing knows this or so I thought. Wait, is this one of those things that people only sympathize with when they have a daughter of their own? Oh.

best buy managers was pickin em up in the parking lot in Camaros
and taking em to the house.
wasn't no way they was fuckin with us on the couch with our mama upstairs.


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still salty at that

i got mine in

i'm a grown ass woman
as a grown as woman i know hey that was not a good idea
also note i'm fucking 40
this puts me as a damn teen in the 80s
the world has changed a hella lot since then
a whole lot of things were okay when i was a kid that folks would smack out of kids hands now
from lawn darts to drinking straight out of the water hose in the back yard

the hell?
looking back a LOT was not okay
but i'm an adult now
this does not make it okay

the hell kind of teen mental logic you working with?

NO you cant do what i did
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>the hell kind of teen mental logic you working with?

lol, talk about irony.

wouldn't they be the best judge as to why dating a grown man as a teenager is fkd up?
i was with a dude who was 10 years older than me at 20 and thought i was grown (wasn't a teen anymore, couldn't tell me nothing) and in retrospect it was the worst decision of my life.
so i'd definitely have issues with my child at 17 wanting to date a grown person
(this goes for my son as well not just if i had a daughter).

>i was with a dude who was 10 years older than me at 20 and
>thought i was grown (wasn't a teen anymore, couldn't tell me
>nothing) and in retrospect it was the worst decision of my
>life.

20-year-old men cheat, lie, abuse, etc. too. Sounds like your particular relationship was bad. It's not realistic to make older men/younger women relationships out to be so negative just because of that one experience. Not every younger woman has this attitude, for example:

>(wasn't a teen anymore, couldn't tell me nothing)

And not every older man is some predatory abuser hanging out at the high school.

he seems "off" in a way

even in the same convo he went from saying he never heard the Beck album, heard it while with Taylor in a restaurant and thought it was good so far, they brought up Beck and artistry again and said Beck shouldn't have won lol. WTF. How do you know it shouldn't have won Album of The Year but should've won Rock Album Of The Year if you didn't hear it. You cant say something shouldn't have won but should've won another award. So ass backwards. He's confused.


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Made sense to me. He hadn't heard it at the time of the awards and admitted he was wrong for the remarks he made. Heard the album after the fact and said it was good but not album of the year material. Should have won Rock album of the year instead. What's the problem?

maybe he heard enough of it to label it rock

but rock albums get considered for AOTY all the time

it was sloppy damage control

one step forward...2 steps back...2 steps forward type of thing

he's still just as uninformed forming judgments

he heard a few songs that played in a restaurant

You want to hold the judges to a high standard or artisty and then you make a judgement on what YOU only heard lol c'mon son.


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he heard a few songs that played in a restaurant

You want to hold the judges to a high standard or artisty and then you make a judgement on what YOU only heard lol c'mon son.


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-he admits to being wrong about saying that regarding an album he never listened to
-he later heard it while at dinner with Taylor Swift and thought the parts he heard sounded pretty good
-he's still not convinced, but realizes he would probably like it if he actually gave it a chance
-he's still riding for Beyonce because hers was the biggest event and she basically ran shit last year

it's not flip floppy at all

that they confuse their own fucking selves.

and this is why america (okay, he's canadian but whatever) sucks so much.

suggestions for the Oscars but probably only saw 2 of the movies. How are you gonna have a opinion on something you did little research on. Makes no sense. You can't say there is lack of artistry in something you never heard.



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in defence of a statement where he declared he was uneducated in and was uncertain in his own opinion other than he was riding for Beyonce lol But ok.

Listen im a Ye fan forever but im not an idiot who thinks everything he says is to be taken literal. I love him as an artist but he's a social retard.


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just say "you're right, kanye did make sense" and keep it pushin'.

You never said anything of substance to prove otherwise. He already said he didn't listen to the album there is nothing else to say to that. Are u gonna put words in his mouth? Are you gonna edit the interview? There's nothing you can say to change what he said so what are you trying to prove? Lol makes no sense.
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i cant defend this
*facepalm*
this fool
probably provoked someone to call CPS on Kims mom
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underage anything in LA.

oh they got a call alright
nothing came of it as i expected
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It's not that Tyga's so old and she's a toddler. I'm not going as far to call him a pedophile.
It's not like people haven't had relationships with this type of age difference before that weren't necessarily exploitative in nature.
It's not like both of them aren't getting something out of it.

But Kylie's entire presentation to the world as set by herself, her family, her management, and the media is as a TEENager. As a girl. Not as a grownup or a woman. Despite how much people want it to be or how sexualized young women have been (whether they invite the attention or not), a teenager is not a grown up. So minimizing the situation like "well she's 17!" or whatever is an excuse that none of us benefits from making.

Add to that the fact that Kylie is Tyga's ex's friend's little sister. So the entire time he knew Kylie she was in the position of young girl relative to him. Entering into a relationship with her isn't wrong by that standard alone (ex's friend's sister) but it does make it a little more yucky TO ME.

It's clearly an opportunistic relationship, the opportunity weighing more in Tyga's favor than for Kylie in this instance. So it's creepier that he's taking advantage of a younger girl in this way. The way you all get up in arms about women being opportunistic in dating men, I thought you'd understand this concept pretty easily. Even Kanye recognizes this is an opportunity for Tyga - he got in early after all.

It's just all so stupid and Kanye would've been better off not to comment than to be put in the position of trying to justify something that's just uncomfortable whether you can put your finger on why or not.

No winners here. Not Kanye, Kim, Amber, Kylie, or Tyga. Everybody's got poo in their backyards on this one.

>Add to that the fact that Kylie is Tyga's ex's friend's little
>sister. So the entire time he knew Kylie she was in the
>position of young girl relative to him.

not sure how many years he's been around the family but he may have been "scouting" her for years.

http://twitter.com/DaRealAmberRose/status/568868067251335168

http://twitter.com/DaRealAmberRose/status/568870189208457217

http://twitter.com/DaRealAmberRose/status/568870884397568001

This getting trashy lol

>http://twitter.com/DaRealAmberRose/status/568868067251335168
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>http://twitter.com/DaRealAmberRose/status/568870189208457217
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>http://twitter.com/DaRealAmberRose/status/568870884397568001
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>This getting trashy lol

Amber could have gone the subtle route for more lulz, but she decided to go straight for the jugular, can't be mad at that.

Let my love slide in and never slip out

the day after their two real accounts went at it

hence the blue check

and not how Kanye looks at her.

But then again,I dont speak fluent Ye.
Fuck your fort!

we all might disagree on things....it's bound to happen....
but for there to be THIS much fckin strife and darts going back and forth over some folks that none of us know is kinda lame....


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and you were in here throwing darts as well.

Is the worst thing about this post. All jokes aside

Nigga keep whining about levity and nobody getting his jokes. Nigga you are an un funny muthafucka.......nothing less nothing more, just shut up.

.

All of them quiet

no one is perfect

he is cringeworthy as fuck at times

but


he is playing some real ass game and has been for a bit

lol

quote:

Wait 30 showers? But Kim let RayJ nut on her.... Never mind.
‏@DaRealAmberRose


I'm always so quiet and just a cool fun girl. The funny thing is I'm all for a woman making something out of nothing.
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Amber Rose @DaRealAmberRose · 4h 4 hours ago


Ppl make mistakes in life trust me I have. But when u bully other ppl and ur not perfect its so fucked. I own up to every piece of my life.
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Amber Rose @DaRealAmberRose · 3h 3 hours ago

https://twitter.com/DaRealAmberRose

>lol
>
>quote:
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>Wait 30 showers? But Kim let RayJ nut on her.... Never mind.
>‏@DaRealAmberRose
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>I'm always so quiet and just a cool fun girl. The funny thing
>is I'm all for a woman making something out of nothing.
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>Amber Rose @DaRealAmberRose · 4h 4 hours ago
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>Ppl make mistakes in life trust me I have. But when u bully
>other ppl and ur not perfect its so fucked. I own up to every
>piece of my life.
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>Amber Rose @DaRealAmberRose · 3h 3 hours ago
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>https://twitter.com/DaRealAmberRose


Like I said...I'm team Amber on this shit...She spit the truth....

Amber rose if he coulda dated kim when he wanted. It's always a really fucked up thing to say "I made u" to someone and I'm sure it especially hurts in this case cause it's basically true...he did make he famous but that's still foul to say

Otherwise I thought this interview was good. He's still a bit delusional and nutty but I never minded that

He was way out of pocket for commenting on Kylie and tyga at all. If tyga is saying they are just friends let that be ur comment too

And tyga is dead wrong lol but it's always funny what u str8 men here rally behind. Probably becuz yall were knocking off 15 year olds when u were 22 urselves

Where are people rallying behind Tyga?

When young girls possibly being taken advantage of by grown men, IS a problem no matter how far it dates back.

Then move along, but there ARE men in here implying that, lets not front.

It's more indifference, not support.

And I know some like to consider silence to be support but that isn't always the case.

And that's as far as I care to expound on this.

so you don't have to expound.

Doing so would be forming a new argument.

Seems like folks only recognize the detrimental effects of indifference when it's presented in the context of racism.

Or Mariah and Tommy Mottola


Or do you pick and choose when you apply disgust similar to domestic abuse?

And 2 when Mariah and Tommy got married, so no I can't say that as a child I was even knowledgable about these issues. But as an adult, I find it equally disgusting.

Do you date men 7 years older than you?

Or stick in your general age range

when you dismiss it because "dudes was doing it in our day" it is rallying behind at most, and in the least dismissive. it was fucked up then, it's fucked up now. it's perspective, because the act is predatory.

Double_O tried to get theoretical about the invention of the teenager, which is true, BUT completely forgot to add that it's a direct result of, and organizing principle around, a class stratified capitalist system during and after industrialization.

Nah fam, not gonna let you lump me in with the rest. I made one statement about my high school days. We all know its wrong, well most of us do and I have even stated that so instead of slamming somebody on a message board, what are we gonna do to change things? Are we in our communities looking out for the young people and calling out the old heads trying to prey on them? If not, we don't need to be in here judging anybody.

"Personally, I don't agree with it.

Personally, I would be pissed if a grown man was trying to get at MY teen daughter.

But in THIS case...

Hey, fuck 'em.

I'm not wasting my worry or concern over the Kardashians adding something else to the list of things I don't agree with in their life of privilege.

If they are "supervising" their daughter dating an adult, that's on them.

It isn't a new scenario.

It would be like me being concerned about Kylie smoking cigarettes or drinking wine or something."

i think he was saying that kim has always been on his radar if she had been available b4 he met amber, he would've been with kim much earlier....

I mean maybe he saying it like there would be no Amber rose as an ex of mine but I took it the other way

Could go either way.

But even his own reaction after the fact seemed to lean more to the side of "I made Amber Rose"

I generally avoid Kanye interviews because he's traditionally been incapable of getting any of his ideas out once he gets worked up, but it seems like he's had some SERIOUS training/practise because he's almost... dare I say it... LUCID.

I can't believe everyone's got so hung up on two throwaway comments about Amber Rose and Tyga. Y'all focusing on 10 seconds of a 60 minute interview.