12730497, Many of them are lol...or I prefer to call a lot of misguided blk youth
Posted by vee-lover, Wed Feb-18-15 02:18 PM
impressionable...and I've already pointed out why the breakdown of social institutions, for instance, has caused many blk youth to be more influenced by HipHop than kids from my generation were...it's no coincidence that probably 6 or 7 out 10 young blk teens aspire to be a rapper
And HipHop is not just a music genre, for the umpteenth time, it is a culture...and culture does directly influence people's behavior
HipHop influences the way kids dress/talk/relate to the environment around them...it is their social context...so you can't compare how it affects blk youth to rock or jazz or r&b or country or blues music's influence on youth during their day.
>it's a fucking record.
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>I never thought I'd say this... but it is just music.
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>Marilyn Manson did not cause colombine.
>nirvana does not cause suicide.
>Rick Ross is not causing crime.
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>It's just music.
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>This argument is as dumb now as it was 10 & 20 & 30 & 40 & 50
>& 60 years ago.
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>Nothing has changed.
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>>Fans of 'rap/angsta rap' do
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>>Never has Steely Dan pretended to be living (or glorifying)
>>the lifestyle they sung abt either
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>>Also, they didn't just sing abt those things either
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>>Unlike a lot of the music from artists since 2005 where the
>>content has completely been dumbed down
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>>Also, pop culture's influence on mainstream society wasn't
>as
>>far reaching during Steely Dan's peak as pop culture/rap
>>music is on today's youth/pop culture.
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>>Due to the breakdown of social institutions in the last
>20-25
>>yrs it has resulted in many blk youth to look for
>>self-identity and role models outside of their immediate
>>environment...which is why you can't compare your childhood
>or
>>kids who listened to hard rock or heavy metal in the 70 and
>>80s to kids today who listen and live by HipHop. There's
>many
>>social factors at play why HipHop artists have to be more
>>socially responsible than other (non blk) artists.
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>>>they have songs about selling drugs,
>>>doing drugs,
>>>fucking children,
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>>>I could go on.
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>>>Why does nobody think that steely dan fans are
>>>likely to take these songs as endorsements for how to live?
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>>>oh yeah.
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>>>white ppl be smart and shit.
>>>they don't take records literally.
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>>>that's why ppl protest eminem but steely dan is cool.
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>>>there is not a single argument you can make
>>>that wasn't also made about every generation of music
>before
>>>HH.
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>>>>vented" himself into now? His rap name is named after the
>>>>biggest distributor of cocaine in US history...
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>>>>>Many years after that.
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