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Either the story is poorly written or im not understanding correctly. The story states that judging from the text messages it was clear that they had relations. Then towards the end the story states that the suspects dad claims that he was supposed to meet up with the victim for a sexual favor until he discovered that she was a man.

Somebody lying. If it was clear from the text messages that they had, had relations before then how they " meet up " and all of a sudden he found out she was a man. Sounds more like the guy was DL imo and didn't want his secret out.

Do you think transgender ppl should disclose that they've had gender reassignment surgery to prospective partners?

hell a lot of this paint on, glue on, snap on shit makes these girls look this way.

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But nah, I don't agree.

>http://t.co/8c9aE8Jv1X
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>Either the story is poorly written or im not understanding
>correctly. The story states that judging from the text
>messages it was clear that they had relations.

some transfolks are wonderfully skilled at the art of illusion. the illusion can be maintained even in intimate settings - even throughout sexual relations.

'relations' could mean Underwood (the deceased) performed oral sex on Champion. or that Underwood had receptive anal sex w/Champion. it could also mean that Underwood had receptive vaginal sex w/Champion after having had sexual reassignment surgery. if any of those occurred it's possible that Champion wouldn't know that Underwood was a transwoman.


Then towards
>the end the story states that the suspects dad claims that he
>was supposed to meet up with the victim for a sexual favor
>until he discovered that she was a man.

'meeting up for a sexual favor' could mean anything.

>Somebody lying. If it was clear from the text messages that
>they had, had relations before then how they " meet up " and
>all of a sudden he found out she was a man.

someone could've told Champion and when he confronted Underwood w/the info he didn't like what he heard from her and he snapped.

Sounds more like
>the guy was DL imo and didn't want his secret out.

not necessarily.

>Do you think transgender ppl should disclose that they've had
>gender reassignment surgery to prospective partners?

not necessarily. especially not early on.

>>Do you think transgender ppl should disclose that they've
>had
>>gender reassignment surgery to prospective partners?
>
>not necessarily. especially not early on.

the risk of harm including great bodily injury and possibly death is very real for transfolks. and police and prosecutors in most of the country aren't particularly sympathetic to trans as victims. so they're kinda out there on their own.

but that's just the start. if the info is revealed w/o the proper context having been wrapped around it the potential budding relationship (sexual, romantic, platonic, i dunno) could be compromised unnecessarily.

it all depends on the circumstances where the transperson has met __. if they met under circumstances that indicate __ is sympathetic to trans issues and/or won't be turned off then i think it's a good idea to disclose early on. disclose and minimize and move on. if the circumstances make one unsure about the level of sympathy or interest in trans issues then it's a good idea to wait a little longer before the disclosure.

so u don't think that should be revealed before intimacy?

sorry but that's some dirtbag shyt

doesn't justify being murdered

but dirtbaggy and deceitful none the less






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I think he's saying somewhere between meeting transgender and the first blow job, they should tell you.

i don't think they necessarily need to disclose before being physically intimate.

no need for a disclosure there.

whats ur point?

Theres plenty of dating sites that cater to folk in that life nowadays

so I ain't buyin the whole self preservation bs

u dont have to date people who may or not be homophobic murderers nowadays

try again


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Or don't.

Because I really dont care for reading through all ur drabble anyway

thx.


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if you see it cool. if not *shrugs*.

too gotdamb old to be e-pouting



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Ok now you're pushing it.

Thats puts them in harm's way.

The average non-incarcerated hetero male is not gonna take it so well if he finds out after the fact that he's been intimate with a woman that was once a boy. Unless he's already open to the idea, It's definitely not one of those good surprises.

again, what if there's only a hit and quit it blow job? the 2 never see each other again. they both leave the situation satisfied.

let's assume for the sake of this discussion that if the transperson had disclosed the situation would've blown up.

what good was the disclosure? it would've kept both parties from getting what they wanted out of the situation.

again: i don't advocate for a necessary disclosure before intimate relations. it varies.

>again, what if there's only a hit and quit it blow job? the
>2 never see each other again. they both leave the situation
>satisfied.
>
>let's assume for the sake of this discussion that if the
>transperson had disclosed the situation would've blown up.
>
>what good was the disclosure? it would've kept both parties
>from getting what they wanted out of the situation.
>
>again: i don't advocate for a necessary disclosure before
>intimate relations. it varies.

If that sort of thing really matters to a heterosexual man, how about being really careful about who you sleep with?

>If that sort of thing really matters to a heterosexual man,
>how about being really careful about who you sleep with?

don't PC it up too much fam to the point it takes out of the realm of reality. you know it matters to most hetero men.

what does this being careful entail? asking every woman we meet if they had ever biologically been a boy or man? in case down the line we ended up having some type of sexual contact with them?

and then acting brand new when you find out something shocking about them after having fucked them* w/o vetting them first via the dating process.

basically.

*...we were discussing a hit and quit it blow job after i'd proposed that i'm fine w/a transwoman not disclosing her trans status to a guy before a hit it and quit it b-j. if a dude doesn't want to take the risk of getting a HIQI BJ from a transwoman who doesn't disclose then maybe he shouldn't have HIQI BJ's. the analysis extends to casual sex w/randoms.

I won't stand for it.

Transwomen. There are dating sites for it and meet ups that are held. That way there is no deception and they have an increased chance of meeting someone that accepts and is into them.

don't be blowing random dudes that might kill if they found out the truth after the fact.

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it all depends on too many factors for me to say i think all transppl should disclose every time before they engage in sex w/a new partner.

i don't think they necessarily need to disclose before being physically intimate

That makes sense.
I did not consider that the risk of violence is there right from the first interaction.

This is one of those obvious things that som people (like me) are oblivious to.

i wouldn't have thought of that either.

why increase the risk of violence by proceeding further under deception?

It seems like the threat of violence is soooo much greater after intimacy occurs.

Like I could see someone simply being disgusted after finding out that they were hitting on a transgender person.
But I could see that same person getting VIOLENT after kissing (or more) this person and finding out the facts later.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the order of events

there's no rule.

case-by-case.

the risk grows with contact...

not lessens

the risk is there...

stuck between a rock and a soft place

I get it, because the threat of violence against transgender people is REAL, but withholding that type of info also lacks consideration towards the other party as well. You could very well be putting them in a position that compromises their morals/beliefs/religion ect ect. And we know people that type of stuff seriously.

Also you don't think withholding that information for an extended period of time then telling them or them finding out increases the risk of violence?

so yeah, it's selfish. and i don't mind it at all. i think that's a situation where they're wise to be selfish and cautious given the risk of harm.

>I get it, because the threat of violence against transgender
>people is REAL, but withholding that type of info also lacks
>consideration towards the other party as well. You could very
>well be putting them in a position that compromises their
>morals/beliefs/religion ect ect. And we know people that type
>of stuff seriously.

*shrugs*

>Also you don't think withholding that information for an
>extended period of time then telling them or them finding out
>increases the risk of violence?

sure. and there's a balance to be struck. which is why there's no good hard/fast rule that will apply in all cases.

>>http://t.co/8c9aE8Jv1X
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>>Either the story is poorly written or im not understanding
>>correctly. The story states that judging from the text
>>messages it was clear that they had relations.
>
>some transfolks are wonderfully skilled at the art of
>illusion. the illusion can be maintained even in intimate
>settings - even throughout sexual relations.
>
>'relations' could mean Underwood (the deceased) performed oral
>sex on Champion. or that Underwood had receptive anal sex
>w/Champion. it could also mean that Underwood had receptive
>vaginal sex w/Champion after having had sexual reassignment
>surgery. if any of those occurred it's possible that Champion
>wouldn't know that Underwood was a transwoman.
>
>
> Then towards
>>the end the story states that the suspects dad claims that
>he
>>was supposed to meet up with the victim for a sexual favor
>>until he discovered that she was a man.
>
>'meeting up for a sexual favor' could mean anything.
>
>>Somebody lying. If it was clear from the text messages that
>>they had, had relations before then how they " meet up " and
>>all of a sudden he found out she was a man.
>
>someone could've told Champion and when he confronted
>Underwood w/the info he didn't like what he heard from her and
>he snapped.
>
> Sounds more like
>>the guy was DL imo and didn't want his secret out.
>
>not necessarily.

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1.) He's in Texas. A conservative judge, jurors are very likely.

2.) Transpeople receive very little respect by the general public.






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huh?

exposure. Especially in a homophobic sport like football, that could have been a motive.

is lubrication apart of the surgery? pills? no lube?

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Bc too many ppl have too much curiousity about transppl and especially their bodies and especially their genitalia and that curiousity may cause them to ask inappropriate questions which can derail a date or other situation. And it's just weird. I have heard this from transfolks numerous times.

to anyone that i know/suspect but, i'm asking it here because i
honestly don't know the answer and thought that someone could shed
some light. i think it's a pretty good question, no?


>Bc too many ppl have too much curiousity about transppl and
>especially their bodies and especially their genitalia and
>that curiousity may cause them to ask inappropriate questions
>which can derail a date or other situation. And it's just
>weird. I have heard this from transfolks numerous times.


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