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12723683, I get where you're going but...
Posted by Novembersgift, Tue Feb-10-15 02:17 PM
the murder analogy is perhaps applicable in "dark alley" stranger rape and not as useful in the more common acquaintance/date rape scenario or a scenario in which consent was initially given then later revoked (either before or during the act).

"Teaching men not to rape" is the easy, editorial way to say what is essentially that we need a shift in the way we raise boys and on the flipside, how we raise girls, because they're related and not in a vacuum.

We raise boys to manipulate women and see the whole business of sex as a game to win. We ask them to perform masculinity in ways that don't necessarily make room for men to see women as whole persons or even to express themselves in ways that may work outside of masculine norms. Then it becomes funny or a win to take a drunk girl home and have sex. It's funny or reputation-boosting to put a video of you and your friends running a train on a girl. It's only right to expect something in return for being nice to a woman.

So a lot more work is required than simply teaching boys not to rape. I'm sure if you ask some people who have stepped all over someone else's consent whether they raped them or intended to rape, they'd say no.

It's a much bigger lift to ask SOCIETY to change its view of men, women, men's roles, women's roles, masculinity, femininity, etc., but that's what it would take, IMO.